DreamRebel 73 Posted October 24, 2015 Hello everyone, I present to you my newest project which I've been working on for quite a while now. This mod is ment to create a new interesting possible scenario for Europe. When released the mod will contain several new models. The timeline will be set on 2027 and focuses on new European conflicts.New models: 5 tanks, 1 AFV, 1 plane, 1 submarine, 2 snipers, 1 heavy machine gun, 1 assault rifle. (+2 ships, post about this soon)Planned release: at this moment unknownSide: Opfor according to NATODiplomacy: Hostile country You can read the story here: May 7, 2018The Netherlands acquired a production license for the Fokker company to build the F-15.June 24, 2018Tensions rise in Europe, the union is falling apart.September 14, 2018The Netherlands, Germany and Austria form a strong alliance.March 19, 2019The alliance starts with military exercises.March 24, 2019The countries start working together more and more. At this moment the alliance focuses on combined military strength, trade and diplomatic relations.June 10, 2020The alliance starts developing a new heavy tank to replace the already aging Leopard 2 tanks.The new tank will later be known as the Tiger 3.July 30, 2020Switzerland joins the alliance.August 12, 2020Liechtenstein joins the alliance.August 20, 2020The Netherlands annexed “Flanders†from Belgium.August 21, 2020Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Portugal, Spain, Andorra and Northern Italy approve the annexation.November 26, 2020The Netherlands annexed the entire island “Sint-Martin†& “Île Tintamarreâ€.November 27, 2020Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Liechtenstein and Northern Italy approve the annexation.June 14, 2021The alliance reinstates the country Tirol. Tirol joins the alliance.August 23, 2021Tirol officially claims the region “South-Tirol†which is now part of the ex-Italian country known as the Republic of Triveneto .February 6, 2022After several months of negotiation between the governments all countries finally agree on forming a new country together known as the “Germanic Republicâ€.At first the Swiss government wasn't sure about the benefits but after 2 weeks they were convinced by the other countries.February 15, 2022A new leader has been chosen and becomes the official President. All former Presidents become Minister-President and support the President. All former countries become states, the minister president is responsible for an entire state. The president is in charge of the entire country and its policy. All provinces are kept the same. Germany is the only former country that will be divided in 4 smaller states. This means 3 new minister-presidents will be appointed as well.March 22, 2022The border between the Dutch and German state has been moved, from now on the border follows the water. It starts at the river “Ems†until the point where the river meets the“Dortmund-Ems-Kanalâ€. Then it heads towards the river “Lippe†and from there to the “Rhineâ€.April 8, 2022The Germanic Republic annexed Belgium and Luxembourg, both countries were added to the Dutch state.April 12, 2022Tensions rise as the United Kingdom and France openly disagree over the Germanic policy/actions.The Germanic Republic threats with a trade embargo against both countries.April 18, 2022Northern Italy signs a Non-aggression pact with the Germanic Republic.April 24, 2022The Germanic Republic annexed the French regions “Elzas†and “Lotharingenâ€.April 25, 2022France disapproves the annexations but is afraid of going to war with The Germanic Republic.The Germanic Republic in response threats with a full scale war if actions against the republic are taken. Or when French troops move towards their border/remain on their soil.April 26, 2022The United Kingdom disapproves the recent annexations but in order to avoid a conflict they sign a Non-aggression pact.May 11, 2022Spain signs a Non-aggression pact with the Germanic Republic.December 4, 2022The Germanic Republic sends the 19th wing (Swiss Eagles) to Saudi-Arabia to support the Kurdish fighters with air support.December 19, 2022The 60th Jaeger Battalion is send to Northern Italy to fight and train their troops.March 27, 2023The president has been awarded with the title of emperor. From now on the “Germanic Republic†is known as the “Germanic Empireâ€.March 28, 2023The royal families within the Germanic Empire stay royal but lose their power and most of the money currently owned. Apart from that they have to sign an official document. In this document they agree with the recent actions and they officially recognize and support the new emperor.March 30, 2023The 58th Imperial Guard Battalion has been created. These elite units mainly protect high ranked people within the empire. There also used for several other activities like anti terrorist missions for example.May 9, 2023The 58th Imperial Guard Battalion visits all royal families to check their household. Each family gets a free Prussian flag and insignia for their support. May 10, 2023The Germanic Empire is now also known as “Prussia†and the “Prussian Empireâ€. The official name stays the “Germanic Empireâ€.July 15, 2023The 61st and 62nd Prussian Guard Battalion has been formed. These battalions contain only elite units, the battalions are similar to American Navy Seals.August 18, 2023The emperor orders a big amount of Tiger 3 tanks to fill up the gaps. Due to the economic crisis and the calm period around 2012 The Netherlands sold almost all of its tanks. Belgium and Luxembourg had no tanks at all. The new Tiger 3’s will restore the amount of tanks needed in the Dutch region.August 29, 2023The 61st and 62nd Prussian Guard Battalion receive new Tiger 3 tanks.The Tiger 3 is also known as MBT-14 “Europanzer†and Imperial Tiger.September 1, 2023The 14th Prussian Guard Tank Company has been formed. September 5, 2023The emperor orders 2 new tank designs. People immediately start working on 2 new tank projects. The first tank will be known as the “CV-30†and the second as the “Leopard 3†or Hybrid MBT. The 3rd Panzer Company based in Bern, Switzerland will receive the first batch of new prototype tanks.Also a new plane and nuclear submarine is needed.November 4, 2023The Germanic Empire annexed Denmark. Danish forces resist but are no match for the superior Germanic Armed Forces. The first day 42 Danish soldiers die against 5 Germanic soldiers.November 6, 2023287 Danish soldiers have died already and only 26 Germanic soldiers. The emperor demands their surrender immediately. The Danish forces refuse to surrender.November 7, 2023The Danish forces still refuse to surrender. More than 300 Danish soldiers have died already against less than 50 Germanic soldiers. The emperor immediately orders heavy bombardments on Danish military positions.November 10, 2023Over 1500 Danish soldiers have died in the last 4 days, Denmark surrenders. December 1, 2023The Germanic Empire agrees on a Non-aggression pact with Norway, Sweden and Finland. January 20, 2024The Germanic Empire agrees on a Non-aggression pact with the Baltic States. January 28, 2024The Germanic Empire agrees on a Non-aggression pact with Portugal. February 8, 2024The Germanic Empire officially supports Andorra’s independence. January 20, 2024The Germanic Empire recognizes Palestine and Kurdistan as a country.January 21, 2024The israeli government is considered as one of the Germanic Empires enemies. They behave hostile towards Germanic allies and threatened with war.Therefore not only a trade embargo will be issued against Israel, the Germanic Empire will also protect Palestine, Kurdistan and Lebanon.February 6, 2024Because it takes very long to build a large amount of F-15’s and F-35’s, the Germanic Empire decides to buy a large amount of A-346 planes from Northern Italy. These planes are meant to fill up the gaps. The Germanic Empire and Northern Italy agreed on a trade deal. Northern Italy will deliver the planes and in return the Germanic Empire will deliver Leopard 2 and 3 tanks.February 14, 2024The official language in the Germanic Empire is now German. Except for the Dutch region, the official language in this region stays Dutch followed by French and German.November 23, 2024The Germanic Empire plans to expands its air force again. Russia wants to improve its relationship with the empire and offers the export version of the Su-34 (Su-32) for a reduced price. The new planes will be used mainly for bombing missions. The emperor agrees and sees a great opportunity in this deal, the Su-32 fits in perfectly. The Germanic Empire buys many Su-32 planes.December 10, 2024After a successful deal with Russia both parties agree to sign a Non-aggression pact. Russia is invited to the military parade on May 12, 2025.January 10, 2025France calls for a UN meeting about the Germanic Empire. France is afraid of the growing military power and the territory expansions. The following countries refuse to take part: Portugal, Spain, Finland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Northern Italy, Andorra, Ukraine, Russia, Romania, Belarus, Ireland, Greece, Saudi-Arabia and Egypt.January 16, 2024The Germanic Empire officially invites Portugal, Spain, Andorra, Northern Italy, Kurdistan, Palestine, Lebanon, Iran, China, Egypt and Saudi-Arabia to the military parade on May 12, 2025.March 18, 20254 French spies are arrested in Leipzig by the Imperial Guards. Declaring in an official statement the Germanic Empire sees this as an act of French aggression. The spies are taken to a military base for interrogation. According to the authorities this is not the first time they found spies.April 2, 2025The Germanic Empire will take part in a major Saudi-Egypt military exercise for the first time in July, as the empire looks to strengthen links among its allies in the face of an increasingly assertive West.May 8, 2025The Germanic Empire secretly sends the 78th Jaeger Battalion to Palestine. The troops will help the Palestine armed forces in the ongoing war against Israel. Within weeks many Israeli vehicles are captured or destroyed. Some captured vehicles are shipped to the Germanic Empire for research. Secretly both Hamas and Hezbollah receive support from the the Germanic Empire.May 12, 2025The world is shocked of the military strength the empire showed during its parade. Some countries see a strong ally, but France certainly doesn’t.April 5, 2025The Germanic Empire changes the official name to the Prussian Empire, the short name is Prussia. The Germanic Empire will remain as an unofficial name.August 26, 2025Prussia held a military exercise with Northern Italy near the French border in the Alp region.August 28, 2025The emperor orders an improved Leopard 3 tank design. The new tank will be known as the “Cheetahâ€. The new and improved tank will be superior in every way possible. Tankers will fear the Prussian Tanks.April 14, 2026Prussia practices airborne operations on a daily base. France invites the U.S. and U.K. to a conversation about the Prussian Military movements.June 17, 2026Prussia stops with practicing airborne operations on a daily base. From now on they practice weekly.August 28, 2026French spies report that the amount of Prussian soldiers and equipment near the French border increases.September 8, 2026French citizens fear an invasion from Prussia, the U.S. stations troops in France.September 15, 2026In an officially statement Prussia says it has no plans to invade France.September 20, 2026The first batch of prototype Cheetah tanks are presented to the public.September 25, 2026The new JAS-31 “Owl†planes are presented to the public.September 30, 2026The first new nuclear submarines are launched and presented to the public.December 10, 2026The Prussian Emperor announced in an official statement that The Prussian Empire now has an population of more than 132 million people. Which makes them the tenth largest country in the world if it comes to population. Almost 2% of the population serves in the military or a related sector. This means that there currently are close to 2,6 million active soldiers (Military personnel).In another report there was a statement that only 40% of the given amount are actual soldiers.Yet another report states that there currently are around 3,2 million available reserves.If these numbers are true and we have reasons to believe they are. Then it would mean that the current amount of available military personnel comes close to 5,8 million people. January 28, 2027 The Prussian government releases an official statement about reacquiring former Prussian territory and colonies.This statement will be published in all newspapers. March 1, 2027 The Prussian emperor makes an official announcement on tv. Poland received a document about returning Prussian territory. 2 weeks will be given to prepare official documents, 1 month later integration will begin. By the end of the year all former Prussian territory must be returned to Prussia.March 4, 2027The Polish government is outraged and immediately seeks help through its allies.Another UN meeting was proposed by Poland, but most countries refused to participate.Mainly because their government is afraid of possible Prussian sanctions/actions being taken against them. March 7, 2027 Large numbers of Prussian troops slowly move towards the Polish border in the direction of "Szczecin". March 16, 2027 The 33rd Panzer Battalion, 34th Artillery Battalion, 64th Panzer Battalion, 70th Reconnaissance Battalion, 6th Der Grüne Battalion, 18th Mobile Brigade and the 59th Mechanized Infantry Division gather around the Prussian city of "Pasewalk". March 28, 2027 The 5th Stürm Corps moves towards "Bautzen" and peacefully takes over all border checkpoints. March 30, 2027 The Polish government received an ultimatum, stating that all former German and Prussian territory must be returned before the 5th of November.Otherwise military actions will follow and Polish politicians and representatives will be arrested. April 15, 2027 The following countries received the same document: Surinam, Guyana, Republic of Mauritius, Republic of Palau, Samoa and Indonesia.Indonesia has to return only several islands/parts. All other countries will be annexed. August 29, 2027 Prussia joins Yugoslavia in their war for territory and therefore officialy supports the Yugoslavian policy. September 5, 2027 From now on the Jehova's Witness religion is a banned religion in Prussia.This happend due to many complains and conflicts with mainly Catholic people supporting the emperor. Prussian Empire Map Team:DreamRebel [Project lead – Textures & Configs]IndeedPete [ Textures & Future Missions] (Planned)Pinaz93 [All-round] Alex150201 [scripting]Terramesa [Texturing]Trooper A. [Modelling] Notable passive team member:Xorpane [Configs & scripting]M1lkm8n [All-round]+ Other passive team members Special credits and thanks: Casper N. Christensen [CV-30, JAS-31 and Submarine model]DarkHeart1987 [Tiger 3, Hybrid MBT and Cheetah Model]Tim "SteamTank" Aletdinov [PzKpfw K75 Ausf. A, H&K MXR8 Sniper rifle, H&K SGS-99 Sniper rifle, H&K PAW Heavy machine gun model]G-Jenkins [Triton & MAAC ONE model]Xaotherion [sunda Assault Rifle Model]Shockwave9001 [sunda Assault Rifle Design] John_Spartan & Saul [NATO & Russian Air Weapons]Sabre_Dust [su-34 plane]EricJ [Weapon information & advise] PuFu [Advise & config information]Vilas [Advise & config information]Firewill [Advise] New Models:CV-30 MBT | Panzer 9A “Serval†| Panther 3 TankCV-30 AFV | Panzer 9B “Serval†| Panther 3 AFVJAS-21 “Owl†| Fokker-21Nuclear Submarine | Gojira ClassMBT-14 “EuroPanzer†| Imperial Tiger | Tiger 3Hybrid MBT | Leopard 3CheetahPzKpfw K75 Ausf. A | LöweSunda Assault Rifle | 7.62x35 mm caliber (.300BLK)H&K MXR8 Sniper rifle (Picture will be added later on)H&K SGS-99 Sniper rifleH&K PAW Heavy machine gun Permission is officially granted to me by the original authorsPlanned Models:CV-30 AA | Panzer 9C “Anti-Air†| Panther 3 AACV-30 SPG | Panzer 9D “Artillery†| Panther 3 SPGMore new infantry weapons (On the list)New attack helicopter (Just a wish for now)Modern Pickelhaube (Helmet)Camo previewGrasslandWoodlandDessert Official testers: - [Community] At this moment I'm still looking for additional team members. You wanna get involved with this project and contribute? Feel free to send me a message! (Please note what you can or want to do)What can we use? Additional scripters Another modeller Additional Texture Artist Help with porting the finished models More news and pictures will follow. (At this moment the story is still not perfect and it may change) It is not my intension to offend people in anyway! This mod is not intended to create any kind of controversy. March 28, 2027 The 5th Stürm Corps moves towards "Bautzen" and peacefully takes over all border checkpoints. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProfTournesol 956 Posted October 24, 2015 You will need some modernized pickelhaube :) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndeedPete 1038 Posted October 24, 2015 Daumen hoch! (Thumbs up.) :D 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crielaard 435 Posted October 24, 2015 Im working on somendutch terrains...but have some germans in mind aswell. If you guys have modellers that can make objects for the map, the choice would be easy! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
didotto 13 Posted October 24, 2015 Is there any integration with The Italian Division Project? Because I see Rep of Triveneto and Rep of Northern Italy (and Pinaz in the team). Amazing! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
officeramr 269 Posted October 24, 2015 Liechtenstein is included in the mod? 11/10 best mod of the year Seriously, i see you intermingled this with Pinaz's mod, i appreciate the time you took to create all that lore goodness :P 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DreamRebel 73 Posted October 24, 2015 @87th_neptune Cool, thanks for your message! I'll keep it in mind and get in touch with you. @didotto Yes there is, I've been working together with Pinaz quite a lot lately. For example we went over the story many times, it had to be perfect and fit the Italian Story as well. Thanks for your reply and compliment, deeply appreciated! :) @officeramr Yes it is, but not as a terrain though. But that might be something for the future.Thank you very much for your compliment, really apreciate it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
officeramr 269 Posted October 24, 2015 @87th_neptune Cool, thanks for your message! I'll keep it in mind and get in touch with you. @didotto Yes there is, I've been working together with Pinaz quite a lot lately. For example we went over the story many times, it had to be perfect and fit the Italian Story as well. Thanks for your reply and compliment, deeply appreciated! :) @officeramr Yes it is, but not as a terrain though. But that might be something for the future.Thank you very much for your compliment, really apreciate it! Liechtenstein accidentally invaded Switzerland once, weird fun fact. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pinaz93 1020 Posted October 24, 2015 you finally open the thread! I think it will come out a great project! ;) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DreamRebel 73 Posted October 25, 2015 Haha Yeah, it just had to be perfect. :P Thanks mate! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_roberto_ 12 Posted October 25, 2015 I love this Scenario! How will the Infantry look like?(Camo-Equipment) And what for ground vehicles(Jeeps,Trucks) will the Troops use? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndeedPete 1038 Posted October 25, 2015 I love this Scenario! How will the Infantry look like?(Camo-Equipment) And what for ground vehicles(Jeeps,Trucks) will the Troops use? Funny, I had a quick go at camo designs this morning. I'll just post the message I sent dreamrebel for the sake of discussion. They're in a very early state and it's only about the camo schemes, not necessarily the uniform models. I've had some time this morning and toyed around with some camo patterns. Basically, I took the exitisting German patterns: Flecktarn (Woodland) Tropentarn (Desert Derivative of Flecktarn) Schneetarn (http://www.outdoorfan.de/images/product_images/popup_images/849_0.jpg) Then I applied some filters. At first, I thought about somehow digitalising the Flecktarn pattern, then I ended up cubifying it. I think the first versions are kind of a mixture between digital patterns and the very modern and distruptive A-Tacs camo. But see for yourself. I've taken the BLUFOR uniforms as testbed. Flecktarn (first from the right) vs. cubic Flecktarn in different tile sizes: I feel it's getting washed out pretty fast when increasing the tile size. Hence I think the second from the right, with the smallest tiles, would be the best of these early designs. It's neat and disruptive, but you can still see these little cubes when being close. And from what I saw on the tank pictures, disruption and washed out effects fit the existing work. Tropentarn (first from the right) vs. cubic Tropentarn in different tile sizes: I like this one, it's a simple two-coloured Flecktarn derivative. In this case, I'd prefer the first from the left, with the biggest tiles, as it's quite disruptive. Schneetarn (first from the right) vs. cubic Schneetarn in different tile sizes: Even if it looks like a "bedsheet with shit stains on it" (not my words), the Bundeswehr Schneetarn is said to be highly effective in snowy environments. I haven't found a way to make it look pretty in Arma 3 yet. I don't know, I just don't like that camo, even if it is effective in the real world. Again, if anything, I'd pick bigger tiles (left side) over smaller. All in all it's a good start to modify (read: upgrade) already existing patterns, or what do you think? And keep in mind that we're talking about early designs I made in a few hours.^^ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DreamRebel 73 Posted October 25, 2015 @_roberto_ Nice! This mod creates so many new scenario's you can play with. It's not sure yet how they will look like since we are still working on it. But I can tell you that IndeedPete is working on some camo schemes. They look very good already, you can check them about above this post. When it comes to weapons and equipment, that's something for the future. But some soldiers will use the new "Sunda" rifle, others might use the good old G36. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
officeramr 269 Posted October 26, 2015 @_roberto_ Nice! This mod creates so many new scenario's you can play with. It's not sure yet how they will look like since we are still working on it. But I can tell you that IndeedPete is working on some camo schemes. They look very good already, you can check them about above this post. When it comes to weapons and equipment, that's something for the future. But some soldiers will use the new "Sunda" rifle, others might use the good old G36. I wouldn't use the G36, the German Army IRL are pulling them out of service from earlier this year because after sustained use the polyester body would melt making the weapon inaccurate I think they'll probably be replacing it M416 or the SCAR, unless HK wants to fix the issue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pinaz93 1020 Posted October 26, 2015 I wouldn't use the G36, the German Army IRL are pulling them out of service from earlier this year because after sustained use the polyester body would melt making the weapon inaccurate I think they'll probably be replacing it M416 or the SCAR, unless HK wants to fix the issue I think that the Hk M416 will be the most probable choise as a substitute to the G-36, just becouse HK it's german... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndeedPete 1038 Posted October 26, 2015 Toadie's doing a G36 with a 6.5mm caseless chambering as well, so it fits the 2020s scenario. Hence my idea was to think about that if dreamrebel can't find his own, custom rifle. But I believe he acquired a custom model already. The fictional Sunda 7.62mm bullpup rifle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
officeramr 269 Posted October 26, 2015 I think that the Hk M416 will be the most probable choise as a substitute to the G-36, just becouse HK it's german... hmm, SCAR-H is used by German SEK and GSG-9 and so is the M416, probably will depend on price and what Germany's desired specs will be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DreamRebel 73 Posted October 26, 2015 @officeramr Yeah I've read the same thing, it's true but I believe Toadie is aslo creating a version with caseless chambering for example. Maybe we can use those but that's something we'll have to discuss first. Though we do have our own new bullpup assault rifle. Still we will have a look at other rifles since we can't equip the entire army with the "Sunda" rifle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
officeramr 269 Posted October 26, 2015 @officeramr Yeah I've read the same thing, it's true but I believe Toadie is aslo creating a version with caseless chambering for example. Maybe we can use those but that's something we'll have to discuss first. Though we do have our own new bullpup assault rifle. Still we will have a look at other rifles since we can't equip the entire army with the "Sunda" rifle. What about the XM8? HK produces them for Malaysia, its something unique and most people like the gun, looks somewhat futuristic too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DreamRebel 73 Posted October 26, 2015 @officeramr That's an option as well, I'll keep it in mind! The XM8 looks good though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
john111 76 Posted October 29, 2015 I prefer the XM-8 rifle.Not as heavy. About tanks ;Try talking to the SAM guys.Swedish army mod has some fantastic stuff.Maybe,you could add their Combatboat-90 somehow.... Sub`s looking Great! Will this have some missiles? Some Harpoon will look like a useful option for it....lock-out hatch =missile hatch Tip: Use the Torpedo tubes (make them wide enough) to spawn a player in them,then shoot him out into the water (or simply add a door handle) to depressurize the tube ,then open the door. The https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/143603-swedish-forces-pack/ has a Radar AA-CV90 tank in working order ,ask if they are willing to donate some of that....keep it up Cheers! Tip: CV-90 AA-tank has a radar dome on it ,like a up-side down trashcan on the turret.It will be most helpful if it came with a radar scope that updates what it sees,once every time it turns 360* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DreamRebel 73 Posted October 29, 2015 Hey John, thanks for your feedback! I haven't had time to discuss it yet but tomorrow I'll have a look at the XM-8! So far we already have 4 tank models and 1 AFV which is based on the CV-30/Panther 3 chassis. Tomorrow I'll also contact the SAM team, that might be interesting and I think some of their models will fit his mod really well. The submarine currently has 4 missile hatches, each missile hatch contains 6 balistic missiles. Which comes to a total of 24 missiles. Among with the missiles the submarine has several torpedo tubes as well. Players can leave the submarine on top. Again thanks for your feedback and compliments, we greatly apreciate it. :) I'll post some WIP pics below! Gojira Class Submarine WIP Picture 1Gojira Class Submarine WIP Picture 2Gojira Class Submarine WIP Picture 3Gojira Class Submarine WIP Picture 4Gojira Class Submarine WIP Picture 5 Panther 3 tank WIP Picture 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
john111 76 Posted October 30, 2015 Can you add some way to exit by torpedo tube? Or in reverse,actually,enter by them? A sub-rescue themed mission.Can you add this?; http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/data/594/AMOS_CV90.jpg It would be so cool ,if we had a proper control-room to drive this submarine! Spookwar has a ton of cool gadgets in the works....A joint-venture ,perhaps? https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/176453-spookwarcom-darker-immersion-spec-ops-gameplay/page-18 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
john111 76 Posted October 30, 2015 Seen this?http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=8360 http://jfdefence.com/sealpod/torpedo/ Talk to him,interesting stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belbo 462 Posted October 30, 2015 Nice idea. If you start using the word "german" instead of "germanic", this could really be something. Germanic means "germanisch", like back "belonging to the germanic people in the iron age". German means "Deutsch", as in the current country and culture since the 11th century. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites