USMC in the 2030's mod

[Terramesa 66]

Hello,

I'm creating a Marines 2030 mod, well technically a retexture of the A3 NATO units. This mod is for my realism unit and I will update this thread as necessary.

Also, I may need ships (ported or no) in arma 3, if anyone is willing to let me use their ships/ subs in my mod I would be euphoric.

If anyone has any ideas, suggestions, questions or requests I will be happy to answer and consider them.

good day.

[Przemro 18]

How about vehicles (also retexture)?

[handicap 19]

What exactly are you planning to use for camoflauge? What vehicle color schemes? Unless congress forces the Marine Corps to adopt that god awful scoprion crap that the army is pushing over to I don't really see the USMC changing patterns unless some type of optic camo comes out.

[DrunkenVeteran 10]

god awful scoprion crap that the army is pushing over to

Hell of a lot better than ACUs. Only thing I was able to find that it blended in with when I was in was gravel roads. Plus the ACUs were stained just looking at dirt, specially the sand hills in Bragg and Benning.

But yes, Ships, A3 needs more of them.

[Jona33 51]

Hell of a lot better than ACUs. Only thing I was able to find that it blended in with when I was in was gravel roads. Plus the ACUs were stained just looking at dirt, specially the sand hills in Bragg and Benning.

But yes, Ships, A3 needs more of them.

Damn, the US has so many different camouflage patterns, how the hell does anyone work out what they should be wearing. :D

OT: Nice to see a few more people embracing the default ARMA III setting and running with it.

[handicap 19]

Hell of a lot better than ACUs. Only thing I was able to find that it blended in with when I was in was gravel roads. Plus the ACUs were stained just looking at dirt, specially the sand hills in Bragg and Benning.

But yes, Ships, A3 needs more of them.

While true, this is a USMC mod and, having recently got out of the Marine Corps, I can confirm that there are quite a few Marines who are upset with the Army right now due to their uniform shenanigans and how that went about getting congress to threaten to change all of the branches back over to one uniform. We like our digital uniforms and would prefer to keep them because.. You know.. We did it right the first time and they actually work. :P

As for ships.. Hit up Chortles and Chomps for the ported LHD 29 from A2 and the Destroyer that's currently a WIP.

[EricJ 761]

Hell of a lot better than ACUs. Only thing I was able to find that it blended in with when I was in was gravel roads. Plus the ACUs were stained just looking at dirt, specially the sand hills in Bragg and Benning.

But yes, Ships, A3 needs more of them.

They worked good in the mountains but in some cases the only people who saw it were friendlies trying to shoot my CO one time as well as another time during a large op (thankfully didn't get killed) but I prefer the Scorpion/Multicam over that shit too.

But back on topic yeah looks to be a cool mod though...

[Terramesa 66]

Thank you for your input!

@Prezemro, Handicap; Yes I will be doing vehicle camo but right now I'm focusing on infantry. Also, I'm considering changing the USMC vehicle camo (not inf.) for the re-texture because it has been in use since the 1980's (correct me if I'm wrong), and I think its time to be a bit more modernized.

@Porter707; I agree with there being more ships and naval units.

@Handicap; I will send Chortles and Chomps a message as soon as I finish writing this.

Also, I will be putting up a few new vehicle camouflages for you guys to debate on.

[LykosMactire 298]

Thank you for your input!

@Prezemro, Handicap; Yes I will be doing vehicle camo but right now I'm focusing on infantry. Also, I'm considering changing the USMC vehicle camo (not inf.) for the re-texture because it has been in use since the 1980's (correct me if I'm wrong), and I think its time to be a bit more modernized.

@Porter707; I agree with there being more ships and naval units.

@Handicap; I will send Chortles and Chomps a message as soon as I finish writing this.

Also, I will be putting up a few new vehicle camouflages for you guys to debate on.

the military has been going solid colors recently due to expenses, but i can see if maybe i can help out with something for the vehicle camo, i had an idea and i'll post a pic if it works, and tell you if it doesnt

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how does this look, a more digitalized version of the classic woodland, it actually seems more effective http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/40851083905039697/20D02C9366EC1F3EBDD1B2E7F05DB4DCB1D04A10/ (156 kB)

[Terramesa 66]

That's some nice camo!

but I was thinking of something else. I will post the camouflage patterns soon.

Desert:

A-Tacs AU

http://imgur.com/nTwcFzZ

M90 Desert (Swedish)

http://imgur.com/gKLSpSn

Kahki

http://imgur.com/Iaxp9pO

US Tri-color

http://imgur.com/zTd0Ihr

Woodland:

Olive

http://imgur.com/JhVnFSy

US woodland (80-90')

http://imgur.com/4SHvvOH

M90 Wood

http://imgur.com/G6OBPU1

Pixel tiger stripe

http://imgur.com/lgDbAgb

Misc:

Grey (for aircraft)

http://imgur.com/pB8AsSZ

M90 Urban/ snow

http://imgur.com/e1CI1GZ

Razzle-dazzle (idk the real name, probably for boats/ subs)

http://imgur.com/qj2UI3i

Edited August 20, 2014 by Terramesa

[LykosMactire 298]

Atacs would only be really effective in desert version, same with kahki, M90 would be to complex. US Tri-color would work in temperate climates, but the USMC is more well known for the woodland style on their vehicles.

[Terramesa 66]

Alright, cool. what about the woodland camos?

[LykosMactire 298]

Alright, cool. what about the woodland camos?

well take a look at it this way, the corps is so Bad a** that they dont have desert camos for anything other than their tanks, so you'd see LAV-25s rolling around like a boss in woodland camo from the 80s, its rare to see them in anything other than the classic woodland, sometimes theres solid tan though. heres a pic

i would screen a Kuma in the pattern i showed with the hunter in, but my game was crashing

[Terramesa 66]

Alright, that makes sense. but the mod is based around the 2030's after the military has gone over a massive overhaul (Armaverse). Also wouldn't there be global warming and the earth would be a bit hotter so there would be need for desert camo in desert environments. What i'm trying to say is, 80's camo isn't really going to cut it when the opposition and the rest of the modern world has moved on and gone all pixelated.

p.s. aren't most of the Humvees, MRAPs and logistics vehicles in their environment-suitable camouflage?

Edited August 20, 2014 by Terramesa

[LykosMactire 298]

Alright, that makes sense. but the mod is based around the 2030's after the military has gone over a massive overhaul (Armaverse). Also wouldn't there be global warming and the earth would be a bit hotter so there would be need for desert camo in desert environments. What i'm trying to say is, 80's camo isn't really going to cut it when the opposition and the rest of the modern world has moved on and gone all pixelated.

well the only possible reasonable overhaul would be the one everyone in the MC fears...the dreaded 1 uniform for all branches overhaul, and due to budget they wouldnt be able to afford buying the rights to a pattern that wasnt made by them

[Terramesa 66]

True, but we going by the Armaverse which has essentially unlimited possibility's. So that feared "overhaul" wouldn't necessarily happen, all branches could keep their distinctive and iconic camouflage patterns but their vehicles would have to be overhauled to fit the modern battlefield.

[handicap 19]

If you're gonna go for 15 years from now I would really work on modeling in some high tech new gear, perhaps stuff that's currently in R&D, which you can find by picking up a couple of simple military magazines from a book store or digging through the conspiracy theorists blogs on the web.

A simple camoflauge change is just that, a camo change and if the dreaded budget cut isn't going to happen to the USMC in the Armaverse I honestly don't see them switching away from the MARPAT scheme as it actually works and suits their needs. What I -could- see them doing is perhaps changing the cut of the uniform to something more in-line with the frog gear and more durable utility pants worn during deployments by some units but.. not a camo change. Hell, Marsoc uses the old woodland camo right now in the Crye M81 uniform cut. If it ain't broke, why fix it?

I'd go with a solid color for vehicles to be honest. Tan, OD or an OD/snow mixture for winter scenarios. Just my .02 though.

[LykosMactire 298]

If you're gonna go for 15 years from now I would really work on modeling in some high tech new gear, perhaps stuff that's currently in R&D, which you can find by picking up a couple of simple military magazines from a book store or digging through the conspiracy theorists blogs on the web.

A simple camoflauge change is just that, a camo change and if the dreaded budget cut isn't going to happen to the USMC in the Armaverse I honestly don't see them switching away from the MARPAT scheme as it actually works and suits their needs. What I -could- see them doing is perhaps changing the cut of the uniform to something more in-line with the frog gear and more durable utility pants worn during deployments by some units but.. not a camo change. Hell, Marsoc uses the old woodland camo right now in the Crye M81 uniform cut. If it ain't broke, why fix it?

I'd go with a solid color for vehicles to be honest. Tan, OD or an OD/snow mixture for winter scenarios. Just my .02 though.

The NATO uniform has its resemblances to FROG and the NATO uniform itself is used by MARSOC (Crye Percision) and the NATO helmet is the newly issued ECH. for a weapon though, marines always like to stay behind the army 1 gen (m16s when army uses M4s) but i'd say the Black MXs would do best if going for just retextures

[Terramesa 66]

Thanks, AngelWingGamingJacob and Handicap. I finished the base uniforms yesterday but I don't have any clue on how to put them into the game, if someone knows how to do that simply then you would have my gratitude. Also, I haven't been doing much with the mod b/c of school work and such, I will finish retextureing the plate-carrier and helmet tonight (Equip and armor/ vests template names etc)

[LykosMactire 298]

Thanks, AngelWingGamingJacob and Handicap. I finished the base uniforms yesterday but I don't have any clue on how to put them into the game, if someone knows how to do that simply then you would have my gratitude. Also, I haven't been doing much with the mod b/c of school work and such, I will finish retextureing the plate-carrier and helmet tonight (Equip and armor/ vests template names etc)

be careful not to anger any marines, they like their coyote brown vests.

[Terramesa 66]

haha, yeah I'll keep that in mind. I'll make sure I'm not going to stray too far from the traditional coyote brown/ tan.

Edited August 22, 2014 by Terramesa

[LykosMactire 298]

haha, yeah I'll keep that in mind. I'll make sure I'm going to stray too far from the traditional coyote brown/ tan.

not sure if typo, or just a plan to get people angry

[Terramesa 66]

Whoops, it was a typo. that could have got out of hand. thanks for the warning.

[Terramesa 66]

Ok, so here's what I've done so far..

USMC Woodland (I may re-do in the future)

http://imgur.com/9z9zwBo

Armor (I did my best)

http://imgur.com/s5Blq4D

USMC Desert

http://gyazo.com/70cd7b968dbe10bf9690c323abfb8fab

Hope you guys like it

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I have a question for you guys, how many years does the M1 Abrams have left in its service cycle. and what do you think it will be replaced by?

Edited August 22, 2014 by Terramesa

[handicap 19]

The NATO uniform has its resemblances to FROG and the NATO uniform itself is used by MARSOC (Crye Percision) and the NATO helmet is the newly issued ECH. for a weapon though, marines always like to stay behind the army 1 gen (m16s when army uses M4s) but i'd say the Black MXs would do best if going for just retextures

Yes, that's the M81 cut of the Crye uniform and it's not the same as the frog cut. Similar but not the same.

You are sorely misinformed about the weapons though. Non-combat arms units, IE: Admin, Water dogs, maintenance (Air/ground) etc, carry M16's. As far as the infantry is concerned the M16 is preferred over the M4 due to the better accuracy given by the 20" barrel versus the 14.5" barrel of the M4. At the same time, however, this is also highly dependant on what you do within the Infantry. Standard 0311's are, more often than not, going to be equipped with an M16A4, which is the newest generation of M16 out there, while the other 03XX MOS' are going to vary between the M4 and M16 depending on unit and exact mission. As an 0352 in a CAAT team I carried an M4. The only people who didn't carry M4's were our drivers.

It's not that the Marine Corps stays 1 gen behind the army, because they don't, it's that we actually prefer accuracy in our weapons deployment and application and the M16 is a lot more accurate and has a further accurate range than the M4. At this point in time, aside from vehicles and equipment that is branch specific, the Corps doesn't really use equipment that's much older than the Army's. The Army just has more funding so they care less about it and can buy the next best thing as soon as they break the old one.

My M4, when it was issued to me, was brand new out of the box. It still had packing grease on it.

Edited August 22, 2014 by Handicap