Hiring Modder (Details ITT!)

[RSF TheCapulet 59]

I honestly don't understand why so many people are against this initiative. Many modders ask for donations, and a lot of modders talk about how jobs/RL come first. This is simply an incentive for any particular modder who could do this quickly, or is already working on something similar to design a mod made specifically for a designer/community. This doesn't imply anything more than the requester values the modders time, but at the same time he values his own time as well. I honestly find it kind of grating that the community is trashing this dude just because he's offering a bit of cash in return for someone's time.

One thing I'd like to see is an agreed license format as well though. That way the OP can't claim that he paid for the work, and that it's now private. But it's very clear from his posts that there's no intention to do that in the first place.

What I'd really like to see this type of thing evolve into is kind of like a trading post for skills. (For instance: I'll trade you web design work for config coding, texture/UV wrapping work for mission design, etc) I think something like this could really benefit the community as a whole.

While I don't have the skill to complete either of these requests, I support this initiative completely.

I mean, it's gotten so prevalent in the flight sim community that the BMS team specifically banned people from charging for mods for BMS.

Doesn't BIS already do this?

Edited May 22, 2014 by TheCapulet

[Forester155 10]

Heyho,

I just stumbled upon your thread an hour ago.

Do you wanted something like this:

P.S. Just to make this clear: If finished I will release this to the public for free.

Color me impressed. If you can get it working with sound, I"ll drop 20 dollars your way. And hell yeah, of course you can upload it to the public. it's your mod. I'm very impresed!

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I don't like this. It cheapens the effort that modders put into their work.

I'd much rather a donation either to the modder or to a charity of their choosing.

Where do you think I'm sending the money, dubai? Of course it goes to the modder who put in the work to get the thing functioning. lol

[RuairiAU 1]

Where do you think I'm sending the money, dubai? Of course it goes to the modder who put in the work to get the thing functioning. lol

I know you're giving it to the modder, I just don't like that you've called it 'hiring' them and valued their time at $20. That's why I suggest a donation.

Edited May 22, 2014 by RuairiAU

[Forester155 10]

I know you're giving it to the modder, I just don't like that you've valued their time at $20.

It's simply an incentive to work. I don't think their time is worth 20$, because I couldn't possibly know how much time it would take. Neo claims he made that nuke (in it's current state) in under an hour. So yeah.

[RSF TheCapulet 59]

I know you're giving it to the modder, I just don't like that you've called it 'hiring' them and valued their time at $20. That's why I suggest a donation.

I think the best way to decide whether this is acceptable or not is to simply let the modders decide. If someone picks it up, then it was clearly worth it to them, giving the idea credence. If not, then this thread will get buried, and we'll never hear of it again.

[mr pedersen 41]

How would it look on BIS forums if all who " want " somthing start posting what they want on there wishlist with 30$ as payment?

I think all of us moders would check the Game Studio adds if we wanted to get real money for our work/skills.

Or a Game Studio Company would send a PM to any talant moder here if they where intressted and wanted to headhunt the moder for hire him/her to there company.

For example:

I start a new post here with text like this...

Im making a mod with angry Elephants that fight on a spaceplanet with huge awsome spaceships, Now I need some one to code and model all this I pay 40$.

[kiory 405]

This community is ass backward, since when was earning money for the work you provide a bad thing?

The main problem is that a lot of modders consider modding a hobby, a labour of love and passion, which it most certainly is for me, however, it's still work at the end of the day, earning money in the process hurts no one.

If he wants to part ways with his money, then all the power to him, someone will earn that money.

Oh and for the record, you guys act all high and mighty, above everyone else in the way that it's against the spirit of the community, but don't forget that it's this community that birthed the many, MANY iterations of the life mod, which has all manner of thieving assets and underhanded money making, at least this guy is trying to bring in some original content.

There's a vast difference between someone offering money to the content creator, and the content creator demanding money for assets.

Edited May 22, 2014 by Kiory

[disco.modder 116]

Isnt this concept of paying modders for their work is what MANW is all about? I believe MANW is all about luring modders in to make mods for A3 due to such a lack of content.

So why cant this humble bloke make his own little MANW with less work and money involved?

[mr pedersen 41]

Well main thing with when you get money involed with this moding it suddenly become complecated.

Im not against money, no one is. Just look at BIS, they have the Make arma not war contest now. Suddenly we all can win, that is just great! :)

But as I said first it is complicated, What about copyrigts, manhours you put in, who should have what, the value of this and that... list can go on forever when we start talk about money.

Everyone here want to earn money in one way or another. :)

[NeoArmageddon 958]

Just to leave the link here:

I created my own thread for the bomb I am working on: http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?178101-Atomic-Bomb-Module-and-Zeus-(WIP)

[Forester155 10]

I think the best way to decide whether this is acceptable or not is to simply let the modders decide. If someone picks it up, then it was clearly worth it to them, giving the idea credence. If not, then this thread will get buried, and we'll never hear of it again.

^ this

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This community is ass backward, since when was earning money for the work you provide a bad thing?

The main problem is that a lot of modders consider modding a hobby, a labour of love and passion, which it most certainly is for me, however, it's still work at the end of the day, earning money in the process hurts no one.

If he wants to part ways with his money, then all the power to him, someone will earn that money.

Oh and for the record, you guys act all high and mighty, above everyone else in the way that it's against the spirit of the community, but don't forget that it's this community that birthed the many, MANY iterations of the life mod, which has all manner of thieving assets and underhanded money making, at least this guy is trying to bring in some original content.

There's a vast difference between someone offering money to the content creator, and the content creator demanding money for assets.

This too. I seriously don't see how offering money creates a slope to all paid content. If I wasn't looking for a deadline and quality margin, I'd just ask the community if they could lend a hand with it. I'm looking for both, and feel that offering the content creator a monetary reward for this is the appropriate thing to do, especially considering that I have a margin of expectation.

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Just to leave the link here:

I created my own thread for the bomb I am working on: http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?178101-Atomic-Bomb-Module-and-Zeus-(WIP)

This looks REALLY good man, like, wow. Can't wait to see what the finished product looks like. :)

[x3kj 1247]

Isnt this concept of paying modders for their work is what MANW is all about? I believe MANW is all about luring modders in to make mods for A3 due to such a lack of content.

Not just, but also to allow BIS to use all the assetts/things/idea that where submitted for commercial purpose, no matter if it's a winner entry or not =P

I dont see anything wrong with people offering money for things they would like done. Anyone who does not want money for his work can do it for free, or not bother at all.

[Forester155 10]

I've already had people offer to do both for free, which speaks volumes about the ArmA community. Thanks for all the help guys! :D