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Hi I just got DSL on my home, but so far i'm not too impressed with the speeds.

My connection is supposed to be 256K Downstream/ 128K Upstream.  

What downloads speeds should I be expecting with this kind of connection??

Also what pings on games

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30-40k per second download from a decent site.

Should get pings of under 40 on a good, fairly local game server.

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Theoretical maximum for its download speed is 256Kb/s (kilobits per second), which is 32KB/s (kilobytes per second, 256/8=32). From that you usually lose a few KB's for headers, routing info, etc. that goes there with the actual data you are downloading.

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all depends on isp and game server for ping i get 90 but my isp is down in dunedin the other side of my country im in the north en its in the south but people with the same speed connection ive seen with a 30ms ping which even went down to 20 for a while.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (itchy_trigger @ Aug. 11 2002,01:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">My connection is supposed to be 256K Upstream/ 128K Downstream.  <span id='postcolor'>

Are u sure that your upstream speed is higher then downloading speed ?

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kep Kelagin @ Aug. 11 2002,14:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (itchy_trigger @ Aug. 11 2002,01:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">My connection is supposed to be 256K Upstream/ 128K Downstream.  <span id='postcolor'>

Are u sure that your upstream speed is higher then downloading speed  ?<span id='postcolor'>

ive ilther got 128 up 256 down or 256/256 up down cant rember i think max up is 128 for dsl.

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ur've also got to rember the americans stuffed up the metric system its like 1024bytes = 1 kb.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (HellToupee @ Aug. 11 2002,03:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">wow.gif6--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kep Kelagin @ Aug. 11 2002,14wow.gif6)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (itchy_trigger @ Aug. 11 2002,01:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">My connection is supposed to be 256K Upstream/ 128K Downstream.  <span id='postcolor'>

Are u sure that your upstream speed is higher then downloading speed  ?<span id='postcolor'>

ive ilther got 128 up 256 down or 256/256 up down cant rember i think max up is 128 for dsl.<span id='postcolor'>

DSL speeds go up as high as 26 Mb/s for both down and upstream (using VDSL)

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ur've also got to rember the americans stuffed up the metric system its like 1024bytes = 1 kb. <span id='postcolor'>

Ermh... metric system or americans messing up anything doesnt really have anything to do with the fact that 1024bytes is 1 kilobyte (KB, not kb. kb would be kilobit, though a capital K should be used I think). Its just the way binary calculations etc. work. 1 kilo (officially named kibi) is 1024 in the "computer world" while it normally is 1000, as mega (mebi officially) is 1024 kilos and giga (gibi officially) is 1024 megas.

1 byte (B) is 8 bits (b) which make a big difference, as people usually think "256 kbs" means 256 kilobytes per second, it really means 256 kilobits per second which needs to be divided with 8 to get kilobytes.

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i think they should really simplfy the system so that 1000bytes = 1Kb (did i get it right) and dump this carry bits stuff.

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I am just puzzled what this has to do with OFP...

Moving to Offtopic smile.gif

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On my "supposed" 4mbit downstream and 1 mbit upstream... I get, on a good download server.

600 KB/sec download, and aprox 100 kb/sec upload. No idea whats gonna be capital or what of those though smile.gif

Anyway, on a normal server it ranges from 200-400.

I get a ping of 30-80 in OFP if the server is placed in Europe.

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DSL in Germany is 768kb/s downstream, which results in a maximum download speed of 80-90 k/s, which seems rather wasteful to me.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ Aug. 11 2002,23:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">DSL in Germany is 768kb/s downstream, which results in a maximum download speed of 80-90 k/s, which seems rather wasteful to me.<span id='postcolor'>

here in Los Angeles county, de facto DSL provider is Verizon, and their cheapest one is 756 down and 128 up, for something around 55 USD.

yes, it is wasteful, but in MP gives good ping smile.gif

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DSL in Sweden is standard 512 kbit up and 512 kbit down. There are providers that give 2 Mbit down and 512 kb up. The cheapest version is about 20 € / month (512kbit) and the more expensive one is about 40 €/month.

You can also get 10 Mbit and 100 Mbit real lines. I am on a 10 Mbit and they will upgrade it soon (eh, well, they've been talking about it for two months now already). The limitation is the connection between switch in the basement and my computer. The switch itself is directly connected with fiber optics to the main  17 TBit/s net.

IRL my connection is about 15 Mbit, both ways since I usually get download and upload speeds of between 1 - 1,2 Mbyte/s.

I pay 20 € / month. So I'm happy smile.gif

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Aug. 12 2002,00:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">DSL in Sweden is standard 512 kbit up and 512 kbit down.

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You can also get 10 Mbit and 100 Mbit real lines. I am on a 10 Mbit and they will upgrade it soon (eh, well, they've been talking about it for two months now already). The limitation is the connection between switch in the basement and my computer. The switch itself is directly connected with fiber optics to the main  17 TBit/s net.

IRL my connection is about 15 Mbit, both ways since I usually get download and upload speeds of between 1 - 1,2 Mbyte/s.

I pay 20 € / month. So I'm happy smile.gif<span id='postcolor'>

now that speed is more reasonable for simple users like me.

but i'm getting jealous of your connection biggrin.gif

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I've had Verizon DSL for 2 years now here in NYC. I was one of the first people to order it and I'm still paying the low price of just $39 a month. My package is supposed to be 700 downstream but for some reason I've always gotten 1521 down and 430 up which translates to about 188 KB/sec download and about 51KB/sec upload.

I did have some trouble with their stupid WinPOET adapter which connected through my windows. It often froze my system so I got a router and have that log me on without cluttering my computer with their cheap 3rd party software.

I also agree that 1 kilobyte should be 1,000 bytes not 1,024. Why the hell is it 1,024 anyway ? And who was the man that decided those 24 extra bytes are so extremely necessary that we should implement them ?

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i have a cable connection, i think its 512down/128up. for $30 a month.

Off of an average site, i get 40-80 kbs/sec, but ive gotten up to about 120 on some sites.

Im extremely happy with it after putting up with a shitty 56 for years, where i averaged about 2 kbs/sec

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (advocatexxx @ Aug. 12 2002,04:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I also agree that 1 kilobyte should be 1,000 bytes not 1,024.  Why the hell is it 1,024 anyway ?  And who was the man that decided those 24 extra bytes are so extremely necessary that we should implement them ?<span id='postcolor'>

I think it is the same reason that ram goes from 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, then 1024.

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i dont think it has anything to do with ram, just a coinsidence(sp?) i think its just a metric vs standard

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (timmy @ Aug. 12 2002,19:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i dont think it has anything to do with ram, just a coinsidence(sp?) i think its just a metric vs standard<span id='postcolor'>

Nope, its because 8bit are 1 byte smile.gif

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ Aug. 12 2002,05:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (timmy @ Aug. 12 2002,19:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i dont think it has anything to do with ram, just a coinsidence(sp?) i think its just a metric vs standard<span id='postcolor'>

Nope, its because 8bit are 1 byte smile.gif<span id='postcolor'>

if 1000bytes=1024bits, then by your formula, 1000bytes=8000bits

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if 1000 bytes= 1024 bits,

then 1 byte=1.024 bits

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