Request for revision of the "Supporters Editon" offer

[Von_Emmy 1]

Hello everyone

The "Supporters Editon" will include 2 times "Cold War Assault", because it's also included in "Arma X". :confused:

So my question is;

Why not revise the offer by offering "ACR" (Army of the Czech Repuplic) instead of "Cold War Assault"?

That would make the "Supporters Edition" even more attractive.

Btw. i'm heading for the "Supporters Edition", because i only have Arma 2 and OA (the non-Steam Versions of course). :)

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I'm very sorry if this had been asked before. I couldn't find on the "ArmA 3 - Alpha", the "Arma3 - News" and the "Arma 3 - General" Sektions.

If this Thread is in the wrong Sektion or the Question had been asked before, please feel free to move or delete it. thx

Edited February 28, 2013 by Von_Emmy
Cold War "Assault" instead of Cold War "Crisis"

[vegeta897 13]

It's probably a little too late to go changing the contents of the packages. I mean, not literally, but it wouldn't be a good choice after generating so much buzz about it.

And I don't think a thread in the forum like this is going to make any difference anyway.

[chortles 263]

I imagine that it was partially because the Supporters Edition specifies that it's the Arma X bundle which already existed on Steam for a while now, while Arma II: Complete Collection (which has ACR) was only added just over a week ago... also, the Arma X bundle is still the only way to acquire Arma: Gold Edition on Steam... although Arma: Combat Operations is $7.99 on Steam.

[Binkowski 26]

Unfortunately I already have ACR, CWA, and ArmA X. The Supporter edition looks nice, but I can't justify spending the money on it when I already have the games.

[vegeta897 13]

Unfortunately I already have ACR, CWA, and ArmA X. The Supporter edition looks nice, but I can't justify spending the money on it when I already have the games.

Arma X to me is the least important part about the Supporter edition. I'm buying it to support BIS, and if we're lucky there will be enough DLC to pay for itself.

[Von_Emmy 1]

Probably i should've made the Poll more clear, i mean specifically option 4 (No, i like it how it is).

Is there anyone being able to explain, why someone wants 2 times "Cold War Assault", instead of the complete Arma 2 Collection by getting "ACR" instead of "Cold War Assault" (which is already included in the included "Arma X")?

The only possibilities i may think of are; they've probably didn't even read what it's all about or they're trolling (no offence - i just don't get it). :confused_o:

Arma X to me is the least important part about the Supporter edition. I'm buying it to support BIS, and if we're lucky there will be enough DLC to pay for itself.

+1

Even before the alpha anouncement, I was willing to pay even more than the Supporter Edition's price, for merely just the game (Arma 3).

Because on one hand, BI deserves it for what they've done. And on the other hand, they'll need it for what we all (i think BI included) want them to do.

So, i'm very happy about the decision to make us being able to support them this way. Very well done BI :ok:

[NeMeSiS 11]

EDIT: I cant read.

[saltatormortis 12]

+1

even if i have to pay the bucks that the DLC costs more

[SGT.cz90-CZ 10]

I can live with 7 extra E's for the ACR DLC. Maybe even without it. It's a joke anyway.

Supporter all the way. I'm only afraid BIS are actually at a loss here. ArmA X, another CWA, and all future A3 DLCs for 30 E's?

Also, it perfectly solves my problem. A few months ago, my Arrowhead DVD broke, and while it only took 4 (5?) e-mail exchanges to solve, this will solve such issues altogether, which is great! I love BIS' TechSupp since.

[vegeta897 13]

I'm only afraid BIS are actually at a loss here. ArmA X, another CWA, and all future A3 DLCs for 30 E's?

I'm sure they've considered what they're offering, and have access to sales statistics that we the public do not.

In other words, it's likely that sales for all the games in Arma X (especially CWA) have died down enough (especially once Arma 3 is available, even in alpha form) that it's worth adding as an incentive to their big package. And since it's all digital, they're not paying for manufacture and distribution and such. Not to mention the fact that giving purchasers a library of Steam Arma games supports, in a way, their chosen distribution platform for Arma 3.

As for the DLC, perhaps they found DLC sales for Arma 2 to be a bit underwhelming, so that it might be worth giving it to people who pay a little extra now. Don't forget that more people who have the DLC can cause more people to buy it later on, when the supporter pack is no longer available.

[fx2k 1]

Whilst not entirely on-topic, it still fits within the topic's title, so Ill go with it anyway..

I read in another thread (cant seem to find it now) a comment by somebody stating the 'Credits' should be re-thought.

I couldn't agree more, if something needs to change, it should be relating to this.

Why give credit to the person who can mash F5 the fastest? Why not give credit to those who contribute within the community, the mods.. people like bushlurker (first name that came to my head btw) who I see in almost every thread I read.. etc. The point is, anybody can sit their mashing their keyboard.. not everybody spends considerable time helping 'noobs' settle in, get going with terrain editing etc.

Im not a long standing member on this forum, but I have been lurking around for quite some time and almost everything I needed help on was already posted here, without me needing to start any new posts (including digging up old threads because of a quick thanks)

My 2c.

Edit: Or at least do something like this also..

Edit2 : Ok that sounds like a bit of a** kissing, but the offer just seems childish to me, offering something shiny for nothing other than pre-selling future dlc, the credit itself is worthless because of the way its obtained. Ill buy the supporters edition, but ill wait until the mashing has stopped. If for any reason I still end up in the top 500, then I would like a checkbox to untick, so I can leave the credit behind for somebody else to feel 'proud of'.

Edited March 1, 2013 by FX2K

[vegeta897 13]

Why give credit to the person who can mash F5 the fastest? Why not give credit to those who contribute within the community, the mods.. people like bushlurker (first name that came to my head btw) who I see in almost every thread I read.. etc. The point is, anybody can sit their mashing their keyboard.. not everybody spends considerable time helping 'noobs' settle in, get going with terrain editing etc.

Why not? Because it would be a huge drama-fest to decide who should be in and who shouldn't, and a large chunk of time that BIS should be spending working on their game.

The credits thing is a gimmicky hype mechanism. Nothing more. I'm excited to buy the game the moment it's available because of it, even though I know it's insignificant.

BIS does not need to concern itself with people seeking validation. If you're helpful to the community, you'll be recognized in the community already. Why ask for your name in the credits of a game? If you've made a name for yourself among players, then you should be satisfied.

Edit: The credit isn't "worth" anything. Childish? Come now. What you're doing is more childish, if anything. The supporters edition is about supporting BIS. It's exclusively available on the BIS store, so that Valve doesn't get a cut. It costs more, and has incentives like steam gifts and DLC.

Edited March 1, 2013 by vegeta897

[fx2k 1]

Why not? Because it would be a huge drama-fest to decide who should be in and who shouldn't, and a large chunk of time that BIS should be spending working on their game.

The credits thing is a gimmicky hype mechanism. Nothing more. I'm excited to buy the game the moment it's available because of it, even though I know it's insignificant.

BIS does not need to concern itself with people seeking validation. If you're helpful to the community, you'll be recognized in the community already. Why ask for your name in the credits of a game? If you've made a name for yourself among players, then you should be satisfied.

Edit: The credit isn't "worth" anything. Childish? Come now. What you're doing is more childish, if anything. The supporters edition is about supporting BIS. It's exclusively available on the BIS store, so that Valve doesn't get a cut. It costs more, and has incentives like steam gifts and DLC.

Fair enough, it would put some decision making upon BIS and possibly stir things up a little by missing people out, but as much as I want to get my hands on the alpha, I really see no point whatsoever in having my forum name (or real name etc) added into the game credits just because I bought it upon release. Not that I'm saying it will happen either. Either way, the list of names credited will be somewhat meaningless. That's not me being childish, that's me not seeing the point or value in something "shiny".

Edit: An yes, I realise buying from the BIS store will alleviate steam from taking a cut, hence why I have every intention of buying the supports edition, plus for any future dlc (if any) but certainly not for undeserved credit. There will surely be a lot more than 500 purchasing that edition to support BIS.

Edited March 1, 2013 by FX2K

[vegeta897 13]

That's because there isn't value in it! Like I said, it's a hype mechanism. :)

And please don't misinterpret what I said. I was not calling you childish. I said if anything was childish, it was what you were saying. I would not so casually insult you like that.

[fx2k 1]

That's because there isn't value in it! Like I said, it's a hype mechanism. :)

And please don't misinterpret what I said. I was not calling you childish. I said if anything was childish, it was what you were saying. I would not so casually insult you like that.

I didn't actually take it as an insult, although my reply didn't come across that way, I need to proof read more before posting.

Who invented edit buttons :)

[tonygrunt 10]

It would be better if they run their credits promotion for 1-2 days (or even more) for whoever buys the supporters edition and do a raffle for the 500 names.

No F5 smashing, no people raging if the server goes down and no need for people to stay awake or near a computer if they want to be in the 500.

[ProfTournesol 956]

Hey guys, use PM :rolleyes:

[Azza FHI 50]

Ive been playing since opflash. I work hard and make decent money and would have no issues paying $100-$150 on arma 3 if it was worth it. The reason im not goin to get supporters is coz i couldnt give 2 shits about the credits and i dont want to buy arma 2 again. Future dlc is the only thing justifying the price bit ide rather just pay for em when they out. Delux dont cut it for me either. Dont need tac guide or soundtrack. They should have made a special edition pack with some sort of merchandise like that glass box with the tank inside i saw before and then i would have spent up.

[Scoggs 1]

Personally I am getting the supporters edition just to support BIS. I already have Arma X. As for credits, If i get it I will give it away to modders I like personally if they were not able toget it for whatever reason.

I think if you are trying to get something out of the Supporter Edition other than helping BIS, it is not the package for you.

[chortles 263]

If going by "BI judging according to contributions", the drama over who was deserving would be incredible; at least Scoggs is saying "to modders I like personally".

[smokedog3para 365]

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Edited March 2, 2013 by SmokeDog3PARA