LaMOi 0 Posted June 24, 2002 Er Bohemia another thing that would complete the experience of an already great game is ... Land guns-- anti tank guns manned by men... 2) - This is probably not possible, but AI routines similar to medal of hounour. Shooting around corners and behind stuff etc... I dont kno whether this is possible but if it were... man it WOULD make this game the best WAR sim ever. That like the only thing its missin really-- close quarters battles. like in MOH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InqWiper 0 Posted June 24, 2002 There is an addon here that looks like a static artillery. The difference is that you can shoot with this one. I dont think we need AIs to be able to do more stuff then we can, that kinda sucks. If an AI can just put his gun around a corner and spray the area, I wanna be able to do that too. The keyboard doesnt have enough keys to do everything the AIs can do in MOHAA. I think OFP is the best game ever and it keeps getting better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WKK Gimbal 0 Posted June 24, 2002 the spray and pray "tactic" also seems to be more of a film-thing rather than actual practiced tactics. From what I know, the M16 had autofire removed to prevent this very thing. Professional soldiers take aim before they fire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Assault (CAN) 1 Posted June 24, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The spray and pray "tactic" also seems to be more of a film-thing rather than actual practiced tactics. From what I know, the M16 had autofire removed to prevent this very thing. Professional soldiers take aim before they fire<span id='postcolor'> That's not always true. When fighting in dense jungle or thick underbrush and grass, you very rarely see what you are shooting at. When you can't see 3m in front of you, it can be hard to aim with any sureness. Often times, I find myslef aiming in the general direction of the sound that I hear and squeezing off a few rounds in a steady succession. Most countries still have the full-auto feature, its nice to have it when things get close and the shit hits the fan. Ever hear of an 'Aussie peel-off' ? 1. Hear sound in bush. 2. Set rifle to auto. 3. Empty mag into bush. 4.Turn around. 5. Run like hell. 6. Reload. Tyler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathguy 0 Posted June 25, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ June 24 2002,19:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">1. Hear sound in bush. 2. Set rifle to auto. 3. Empty mag into bush. 4.Turn around. 5. Run like hell. 6. Reload. <span id='postcolor'> I think run like hell would not help much since after the shooting, if you did not hit the ennemy, they now know were you are and can kill you while you are making a lot of noise while running. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dayglow 2 Posted June 25, 2002 In RL it would be hard to hit a man running. As for the MOA reaching around and spraying, that's not AI. It anoyed me to no end b/c it was still aimed fire. It's one thing if it was just a wild spray, but in MOA if you move the AI adjusted it's aim to hit you without looking. It's called cheating, not AI. COLINMAN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kermit 0 Posted June 25, 2002 He's joking, you twit. Professional soldiers try to avoid getting into situations where the enemy knows where you are and you don't know where the enemy is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dayglow 2 Posted June 25, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kermit @ June 24 2002,19:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">He's joking, you twit. Professional soldiers try to avoid getting into situations where the enemy knows where you are and you don't know where the enemy is.<span id='postcolor'> Excuse me? COLINMAN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warin 0 Posted June 25, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DayGlow @ June 25 2002,05:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">6--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kermit @ June 24 2002,196)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">He's joking, you twit. Professional soldiers try to avoid getting into situations where the enemy knows where you are and you don't know where the enemy is.<span id='postcolor'> Excuse me? COLINMAN<span id='postcolor'> I think he was referring to Assault, not you I have to agree. The last thing anyone wants is to be unaware of things to the point where you are at the mercy of your enemy. Then again, Military Intelligence is truly an oxymoron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dayglow 2 Posted June 25, 2002 On a side note to spray and pray I was playing GR today with the new Black Sun campaign and I was in a heavy firefight as I was extracting to the extraction point. Anyways I was spraying suppressive fire over my other squad and wasn't aiming at anything really ( AI in GR reacts to suppressive fire, the AI will keep it's head down and not take aimed shots) Well wouldn't you know it, I hit a guy and killed him. Didn't even see him until he fell over So I guess it works sometimes. COLINMAN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kermit 0 Posted June 25, 2002 The first part was addressed to Deathguy, and the second part was to Gimbal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InqWiper 0 Posted June 25, 2002 If you want to use full auto, pick up a machinegun somewhere. If you use autofire with M16 you will pretty soon be out of bullets since you have only 30 bullets in every mag and that makes one mag last about 3 seconds. If you have 5 mags that will be 15 seconds of shooting, seems kinda stupid to waste all your ammo in 15 seconds just because you think there is an enemy somewhere in that high grass. It would be better to use a machinegun or shoot a grenade or mortar. Even better would be to call for artillery or airsupport Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EveronVetsAgainstTheWar 1 Posted June 25, 2002 We should definately make OFP more like MOHAA because then it will be a better war sim. </sarcasm> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathguy 0 Posted June 25, 2002 I would not say like MOHAA, I would more say, have a AI capable to get into building and to use them. If the AI in OFP could get into buildings and shoot true the windows or just hide in it, now it would improve the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-RoNiN 0 Posted June 25, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (deathguy @ June 25 2002,16:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I would not say like MOHAA, I would more say, have a AI capable to get into building and to use them. If the AI in OFP could get into buildings and shoot true the windows or just hide in it, now it would improve the game.<span id='postcolor'> I don't know about you, but I am more than happy to leave urban warfare in OFP as it is at the moment and instead concentrate on making bigger islands, allowing for more extended engagements. Other games are more suitable for urban warfare Just my humble opinion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadow 6 Posted June 25, 2002 I totally agree with Ex-Ronin. Long battles on a large battlefield is where the fun is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EveronVetsAgainstTheWar 1 Posted June 25, 2002 I think they are both good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InqWiper 0 Posted June 25, 2002 One thing that would be fun would be a HUGE island so you would have use for these artillery mods people keep creating. I would really like a huge island. One funny thing is that a shell from a cannon just disappears after it has been airborn like 10-20 secs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WKK Gimbal 0 Posted June 25, 2002 I agree the whole AI in ofp isn't really geared for urban fights. Sometimes you can sit and shoot soldiers, while their squadmembers just keep running around not seeing you. Other times they magically know exactly where you are... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hasha 2 Posted June 25, 2002 In the movie Behind Enemy Lines is what I called truly CRAP AIMING!! Look how BAD those serbs SUCK AT AIMING. A whole platooon shooting at Burnett at the end of the film and still could not scratch him. I wonder how those guys are trained. I know it is a movie but it is hilarious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted June 25, 2002 if OFP gets decent CQB in addition to current engine/capability, then OFP can secure its place in FPS history. but i also know that these guys are busy, so i can wait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathguy 0 Posted June 26, 2002 Well, OFP as already a secure place in the games history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InqWiper 0 Posted June 26, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">In the movie Behind Enemy Lines is what I called truly CRAP AIMING!! Look how BAD those serbs SUCK AT AIMING. A whole platooon shooting at Burnett at the end of the film and still could not scratch him. I wonder how those guys are trained. I know it is a movie but it is hilarious. <span id='postcolor'> Awww, thats just great, I havent seen the movie yet! Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kermit 0 Posted June 27, 2002 Gimbal is right, and I agree with Ex Ronin on the urban warfare. Also, the buildings have very funny properties in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted June 27, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WKK Gimbal @ June 24 2002,19:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">the spray and pray "tactic" also seems to be more of a film-thing rather than actual practiced tactics. From what I know, the M16 had autofire removed to prevent this very thing. Professional soldiers take aim before they fire. Â <span id='postcolor'> Exactly. Turn off the crosshairs in OFP and see how well you shoot without pressing the "V" button to use the weapon's sight. THATS why full auto was taken off the M16 and THATS why professional soldiers aim before they fire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites