miles teg 1 Posted June 22, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (pallean @ June 22 2002,02:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i put this upp for UH1-D HUEY. NOT FOR THE "BLACKHAWK" chopper.<span id='postcolor'> And your point is? The thread is about choppers so we talk about choppers. At least we're not talking about the World Cup or something. Honestly I'm not all psyched about another Huey. I think Martin's Hueys are fine, although they really need to be imported to Oxygen so that rocket pods and dual miniguns can be added more easily to make a "Huey Hog". I'm surprised nobody is helping him with that. The twin engined UH-1 everyone seems to be having a pissing contest over is nice and all, but it's only appropriate for U.S. Marine Corp missions for anyone that cares about mission realism. I'm sure people will use it for Vietnam missions but I think Martin's are MUCH better for that. At any rate, the MH-60 Pavehawk addon is ALREADY finished and we're talking about it simply because no one else has bothered to publicize it much. If that bothers you then you can have the moderator end the thread. Chris G. aka-Miles Teg<GD> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eviscerator 0 Posted June 22, 2002 mine and vixers uh-1n isnt intended for vietnam missions ill be making a uh-1d and c for the nam pack for that, this is for gulf war/modern day missions with the usmc and also theres a civilian bell 212 coming from g8 (without all the military gear) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
john_mcclane 0 Posted June 22, 2002 I think Miles Teg has a good idea... Why isn't someone that has Oxygen working with Martin to get his UH-1D v1.2 imported into Oxygen and edited? Surely that would be easier than creating all new UH-1D's from scratch. Martin's v1.2 Huey looks fantastic. If someone with Oxygen could add realistic looking weapons (such as rocket pods and Miniguns) to it, and maybe fix the damage hit boxes for the crew, that would be awesome! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eviscerator 0 Posted June 22, 2002 while martins is very good a new model doesnt have the limitations he had and so will be better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTottE 0 Posted June 22, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (PitViper @ June 22 2002,02:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What is the official designation on that blackhawk? Â MH-60 Pavehawk?<span id='postcolor'> The BlackHawk, or UH-60 Blackhawk, is the basic chopper. Then you have the MH-60 Pavehawk which is a variant on the UH-60. The Blackhawk is the standard chopper that is used by everyone for everything (long story short) The Pavehawk is used by Special Forces for insertion/extraction and so on. Info from: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/uh-60.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miles teg 1 Posted June 22, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Eviscerator @ June 22 2002,19:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">while martins is very good a new model doesnt have the limitations he had and so will be better<span id='postcolor'> But couldn't Martin's model be used as a starting point and then modified? I would imagine that the basic 3d model could be cut and pasted into the other blocks so that from a distance it wouldn't look like a blackhawk (which in my opinion is the main weakness of his addon). Anyways, I guess it's a moot question since you already have the basic airframe. Just a little tweaking of the USMC Uh-1 I imagine would make it look like a single engine UH-1. So I wish you luck on that. By the way how is the Tornado going? I'm REALLY looking forward to the Tornado. Chris G. aka-Miles Teg<GD> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eviscerator 0 Posted June 22, 2002 yeah someone should do that as his first lod can only be 2500 so it wont hurt the game by making all the lods the first one and will make it a lot more enjoyable till oxygen ones come along, and yeah theres enough extra bits on mine to turn it into an old huey, and the tornado is going well, just finishing off i think Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr ThunderMakeR 0 Posted June 22, 2002 0--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KTottE @ June 22 2002,200)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (PitViper @ June 22 2002,02:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What is the official designation on that blackhawk? Â MH-60 Pavehawk?<span id='postcolor'> The BlackHawk, or UH-60 Blackhawk, is the basic chopper. Then you have the MH-60 Pavehawk which is a variant on the UH-60. The Blackhawk is the standard chopper that is used by everyone for everything (long story short) The Pavehawk is used by Special Forces for insertion/extraction and so on. Info from: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/uh-60.htm<span id='postcolor'> Actually, the Air Force is the only one that calls their MH-60s Pavehawks. Â The Army's MH-60s are still called Blackhawks. Â The complete designations are: Air Force *MH-60G Pavehawk: used by the Special Operations wing HH-60G Pavehawk: used by the SAR wing *on a side note, ALL MH-60Gs have been transfered to the SAR wing and redesignated HH-60s, so technically there are no longer any MH-60Gs in service. Â The Spec Ops wing only uses MH-53 Pave Lows now. Army MH-60L Blackhawk: modified UH-60Ls for spec ops use MH-60K Blackhawk: built from the ground up as a spec ops chopper The choppers shown in Blackhawk Down and in that bicycle pic are MH-60L Blackhawks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bugkill 7 Posted June 22, 2002 eviscerator, i sent you an IM concerning another issue, please check it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eviscerator 0 Posted June 22, 2002 yep i read it but i dont have the time to make an mh-60l i have about 15 models waiting to be done... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lazarus_Long 0 Posted June 23, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Actually, the Air Force is the only one that calls their MH-60s Pavehawks. The Army's MH-60s are still called Blackhawks. The complete designations are:<span id='postcolor'> Don't forget the Navy "Seahawk", and the Coast Guard "Jayhawk". he he.. It's funny to see the rivalry between the branches of the U.S. military in action. Make a few modifications, give it a new paint job, then call it something different. Nobody wants to be accused of using the other branches equipment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stag 0 Posted June 23, 2002 :embarrasmentmode: Evis, you were right first time with the tail rotor, I've been checking. Every bloody mark before the N built in the USA had the rotor on the left, then one day some designer says: "Hey, let's switch the tail rotor over to the right side while Wardog ain't looking, that way he can make a real prick of himself insisting it's on the left side for US-built hueys!" I hate being predictable. Nice work on the skin, BTW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eviscerator 0 Posted June 23, 2002 yep and now its on the wrong side in the screenshot, dont worry itll be sorted... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Jub-Jub Bird 1 Posted June 23, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mr ThunderMakeR @ June 23 2002,00:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KTottE @ June 22 2002,20<!--emo&)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (PitViper @ June 22 2002,02:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What is the official designation on that blackhawk? Â MH-60 Pavehawk?<span id='postcolor'> <span id='postcolor'> Actually, the Air Force is the only one that calls their MH-60s Pavehawks. Â The Army's MH-60s are still called Blackhawks. Â The complete designations are: Air Force *MH-60G Pavehawk: used by the Special Operations wing HH-60G Pavehawk: used by the SAR wing *on a side note, ALL MH-60Gs have been transfered to the SAR wing and redesignated HH-60s, so technically there are no longer any MH-60Gs in service. Â The Spec Ops wing only uses MH-53 Pave Lows now. Army MH-60L Blackhawk: modified UH-60Ls for spec ops use MH-60K Blackhawk: built from the ground up as a spec ops chopper The choppers shown in Blackhawk Down and in that bicycle pic are MH-60L Blackhawks.<span id='postcolor'> Well...that is a bit limited actually...These are the oens I can think of... UH-60A Blackhawk (multirole utility) UH-60L Blackhawk (multirole utility improved version) JUH-60A Enhanced Blackhawk (multirole utility) GUH-60A Enhanced Blackhawk (multirole utility) UH60H Blackhawk (medievac) EH-60 Blackhawk (comint and jamming) EH-60A Nighthawk (prototype - cancelled) HH-60A - HH-60D Blackhawk (combat SAR) MH60A Blackhawk/Pavehawk (special Operations) MH-60G Blackhawk/Pavehawk (rescue and recovery) MH-60K Blackhawk/Pavehawk (improved special operations version) VH-60A Blackhawk/Pavehawk (VIP) SH-60B Seahawk (naval version) SH-60F Ocean Hawk (improved naval version) HH-60 Jayhawk (search and rescue) S-70A Desert Hawk (export for Saudi's) mmm...can't think of anymore...and sorry for not really adding to the thread Jubs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EveronVetsAgainstTheWar 0 Posted June 24, 2002 Its raining men! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
