Iran to make major nuclear announcement within days, Ahmadinejad says

[froggyluv 2136]

De Ja Vu & groundhog day all wrapped into one .... dear oh dreary me.

Im waiting to see Hans blix and Dr David Kelly to turn up soon ....

Oh great. You know when we (U.S) first invaded Iraq, a shall we say, conspiracy minded member of my family shrugged it off and said "well Iran will be next...". I'm still pissed about that bullshit invasion. I mean no offense to the Servicemen and Women sent over there, when the King lies the Knights have no choice but to follow.

Edited February 22, 2012 by froggyluv

[PELHAM 10]

Yes Parchin is being closely watched, it's the explosive implosion tests I talked about the other day. They use a complicated Xray machine to study the blast effects. Thing about Xrays - they can be detected.......

Edited February 23, 2012 by PELHAM

[mrcash2009 0]

conspiracy minded member of my family shrugged it off and said "well Iran will be next...".

Well back then there was allot of people that saw things for what they truly were and the age old tin foil hat comments would fly around and allot of laughter, although if the same attitudes are still in place at the current time its game over as far as I can see it if folk still see things this way.

I mean no offence to the Servicemen and Women sent over there, when the King lies the Knights have no choice but to follow.

This was yet another get out clause not to see things, when you would be slammed for "anti" (-slot the country name or government-) and blasted as disrespectful to the people on the ground, which in pretty much all cases was not the point, always gets used to muddy the water of the real point, and that's the last part of your quote. I just feel people should really start to look back and check out what "knights & orders" and so on are crusading right now, nothing has changed since the middle ages, just more gadgets and different outfits.

I realise this is a bit off the main topic, but anyway, lets see this unfold like a film.

[walker 0]

Hi all

Israel is on the clock because it thinks that a route through Jordan and then Iraq to Iran is possible due to Iraq not having an air defense system yet.

Kind regards walker

[PELHAM 10]

I'm not sure the Israelis will do anything because even if they manage to destroy some equipment they will not destroy the knowledge. It would take a sustained air campaign to destroy all of the nuclear sites and they could soon be rebuilt. The other problem is retaliation. It's not far from the Iran/Iraq border to Israel so what Walker says is true in reverse. Israel recently signed an agreement with Cyprus to allow military aircraft to land there. It is thought that is a possible solution to the destruction of Israeli airfields. Iran's ally Syria would no doubt join in the conflict or allow Iran access, so I'm not sure there is much to gain by military action.

Edited February 23, 2012 by PELHAM

[eble 3]

The Israelies simply do not have the air power to take out the sites in one go, it's just not possible without massive US help.

Even that being said Iran would have plenty of time to send a fair few missiles Israels way

[PELHAM 10]

The latest report on Iran from the IAEA about non compliance with UN and IAEA resolutions, non-cooperation and possible nuclear weapons activity.

Board of Governors

GOV/2012/9

Date: 24 February 2012

Restricted Distribution

Original: English

For official use only

Implementation of the NPT Safeguards

Agreement and relevant provisions of

Security Council resolutions in the

Islamic Republic of Iran

http://isis-online.org/uploads/isis-reports/documents/IAEA_Iran_Report_24February2012.pdf

IAEA Press Releases

http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/pressreleases/2012/prn201205.html

Press Release 2012/05

IAEA Expert Team Returns from Iran

22 February 2012 | A senior IAEA expert team is returning from Iran after two days of discussions with Iranian officials held on 20 and 21 February 2012. The meeting followed previous discussions held on 29 to 31 January 2012.

During both the first and second round of discussions, the Agency team requested access to the military site at Parchin. Iran did not grant permission for this visit to take place.

Intensive efforts were made to reach agreement on a document facilitating the clarification of unresolved issues in connection with Iran's nuclear programme, particularly those relating to possible military dimensions. Unfortunately, agreement was not reached on this document.

"It is disappointing that Iran did not accept our request to visit Parchin during the first or second meetings," IAEA Director General Yukiya Amano said. "We engaged in a constructive spirit, but no agreement was reached."

[mrcash2009 0]

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[PELHAM 10]

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What's your point there mrcash?

All he really says is all options are open and they are using an escalating system of political and economic means. The main point he makes is to stop loose talk about war as it isn't a realistic option yet.

I don't give much validity to the Russian view as it has been demonstrated several times that they don't know what's going on. It was the US that handed them the info on Qom. Russia didn't know about it which caused them great embarrassment.

[mrcash2009 0]

I didn't think it required a point as such.

All he really says is all options are open and they are using an escalating system of political and economic means. The main point he makes is to stop loose talk about war as it isn't a realistic option yet.

Groundhog day, replace face, replace nice banter with Teleprompter get a 11 year time machine and press play.

This war is set it stone, simple as that. Now you have Putin scammed back in, another peice of the chessboard in place.

[PELHAM 10]

Well they are breaking international law - so what do you suggest we do. Ignore it? Then what's the point of international law and the UN in the 1st place?

[Maio 293]

Well they are breaking international law - so what do you suggest we do. Ignore it? Then what's the point of international law and the UN in the 1st place?

Fancy meetings with great swedish buffet's...

[mrcash2009 0]

Well they are breaking international law - so what do you suggest we do. Ignore it? Then what's the point of international law and the UN in the 1st place?

Sanction themselves first looking at the world currently, hypocritical is an understatement.

When you say "we" .... do you work for the U.N?

Start looking at those who set the laws, and also where they are fit for purpose and then not when it suits.

I also guess from your reply you would say the war is set in stone then? WW3 ... fun times for all.

Go watch Team America World Police, all jokes a side (anyone who utters anti american or some BS doesnt get a cookie, just talking about world policing here).

Edited March 6, 2012 by mrcash2009

[PELHAM 10]

Sanction themselves first looking at the world currently, hypocritical is an understatement.

When you say "we" .... do you work for the U.N?

Start looking at those who set the laws, and also where they are fit for purpose and then not when it suits.

I also guess from your reply you would say the war is set in stone then? WW3 ... fun times for all.

Go watch Team America World Police, all jokes a side (anyone who utters anti american or some BS doesnt get a cookie, just talking about world policing here).

What is wrong with the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty? Most of the world has signed it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Non-Proliferation_Treaty

Iran signed it too and is now breaking international law. The UN security council and the UN general assembly have voted on it and passed resolutions. Although not an NPT signatory even North Korea recently agreed to stop enrichment and halt all nuclear testing. Why you single out the US continually I'm not sure. All Iran has to do is allow the IAEA inspectors to look around a few sites and stop enrichment, or withdraw from the NPT then this whole thing would be over with. Why the continued bizarre behaviour? As I said before Amadinejad made his name in Iran holding US hostages and I guess he can't break old habits. This whole silly, phoney mess is his idea. It keeps him in power doesn't it?

[Tonci87 163]

As long as the UN doesn´t have its own Army (I´m more for some kind of specialised Units that can even arrest political leaders, but the UN would have to be completely redisigned before I trust them to handle something like that) nobody will give a S*** about their laws and orders.

[Dwarden 1125]

the problem is that world don't have anything else than UN to handle international problems

the predecessor of UN failed to resolve several serious issues and went into typical bickering about political power

result? the organization failed and was dismantled and all was setup for World War 2 to unleash...

and i fully agree that next UN like organization needs to be world wide,

multi-state driven, multi-state coverage, something like Europol, Interpol, NATO, UN combined

with forces of fast reaction, capable take down any dictator or fanatic w/o mercy within 48hours anywhere on planet

[PELHAM 10]

As long as the UN doesn´t have its own Army (I´m more for some kind of specialised Units that can even arrest political leaders, but the UN would have to be completely redisigned before I trust them to handle something like that) nobody will give a S*** about their laws and orders.

What you describe already exists under the Security Council - that's what it's there for? Political leaders are arrested by forces acting under UN authorisation?

Why it doesn't seem to work as it should is you have to get a whole range of different people to agree on the same thing. Not an easy task, just look at what occurs around here lolz.

[Tonci87 163]

What you describe already exists under the Security Council - that's what it's there for? Political leaders are arrested by forces acting under UN authorisation?

Why it doesn't seem to work as it should is you have to get a whole range of different people to agree on the same thing. Not an easy task, just look at what occurs around here lolz.

No the main problem is that you only need one veto of a member of the big five and the whole plan is cancelled. Thats wrong. Thats not even close to democracy, In fact, the whole UN security council stuff is as far away from democracy as it can be. Its a joke, a sad one

[PELHAM 10]

No the main problem is that you only need one veto of a member of the big five and the whole plan is cancelled. Thats wrong. Thats not even close to democracy, In fact, the whole UN security council stuff is as far away from democracy as it can be. Its a joke, a sad one

Democracy. It's a word that is often quoted and 90% of those that do so don't know the meaning of the word - that is the saddest joke of all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy

It was set up that way to prevent "a minority being oppressed by a "tyranny of the majority" and is a necessary safeguard. Those who understand the complex nature of international politics will understand this.

The UN is what we have to work with, it's far from ideal, but dismissing it as valueless because you don't always get what you want is not really a sign of maturity.

[mrcash2009 0]

Ok Pelham, see you on the other side my friend.

[mrcash2009 0]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2110897/Senate-republican-leader-Mitch-McConnell-calls-use-force-Iran.html

Senate republican leader Mitch McConnell calls for U.S. to use 'overwhelming force' against Iran's nuclear programme

Rubbing their hands no doubt.

[PELHAM 10]

It's just some Senator looking for some extra votes, listen to what Obama says.

Edited March 7, 2012 by PELHAM

[mrcash2009 0]

listen to what Obama says.

Ah yes, the passive aggressive mantra version 2.5, aka "the good cop".

[maturin 12]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/daily-show-jon-stewart-takes-iran-war-drums-210908399.html

[Iranian 1]

According to Iranian's leader Fatva using nuclear bombs in any form is absolutely restricted. So anyone including Iranian president must obey this Fatva.

If president says something different surely he will be noticed by the leader and will correct himself.

Iran is a member of NPT and do not seek nuclear bombs. Isn't it better to make Israel -which is attacking to palestine people every week- to be at least a member of NPT ?!

* Note that Fatva is a rule exploiting out from the Qur'an concepts (which Muslims believe is the exact language of God) by someones who have the eligibility to do so.