Combined Operations

[mobeus 10]

i know this will seem like i am daft but what is the difference between combined operations and haveing arma 2 and arma 2 oa installed in the same folder

is combined ops a bundle of arma 2 and arma 2 oa ? or is it a different game?

[maddogx 13]

i know this will seem like i am daft but what is the difference between combined operations and haveing arma 2 and arma 2 oa installed in the same folder

is combined ops a bundle of arma 2 and arma 2 oa ? or is it a different game?

Combined Ops = Arma2 + OA.

It's just a bundle, not a different game.

[[frl]myke 14]

Like MadDogX said. Basically to differ between A2 standalone, OA standalone and both combined (no PUN intended).

[Gunter Severloh 4067]

Arma2 is a standalone game, as is OA, but OA is the expansion to Arma2.

When you combined OA, rather install OA into Arma2's Directory then you get what is called Combined OPS.

Another name for this is Arma2CO which is Arma2 + OA.

[domokun 515]

Arma2 is a standalone game, as is OA, but OA is the expansion to Arma2

I think Gunter meant "sequel" instead of "expansion".

Just to be unequivocably clear:

2009 Q2 - Arma 2

2010 Q2 - Arma 2: Operation Arrowhead

2010 Q2 - Arma 2: Combined Operations (Arma 2 + OA)

2010 Q3 - Arma 2: British Armed Forces (expansion)

2010 Q4 - Arma 2: Private Military Contractors (expansion)

2011 Q2 - Arma 2: Reinforcements (OA + BAF + PMC)

More info here

Personally I recommend buying CO from Sprocket. It's only €25 and it all goes to the developer (no middleman taking a hefty cut).

Welcome to the fold!

Edited October 11, 2011 by domokun

[Gunter Severloh 4067]

Expansion is what i meant.

The Arma 2: Operation Arrowhead is the standalone expansion to the original ARMA 2 and does not require the original game in order to play.

http://www.arma2.com/game-features/arma-2-operation-arrowhead-features_en.html

A sequel would be the next game, like Arma2 was to Arma1, and Arma3 will be to Arma2 thats a sequel, sequel being a whole new game,

whereas a n expansion is just that, a version that expands on the original game, thus OA expanded, on Arma2.

[maddogx 13]

2011 Q2 - Arma 2: Reinforcements (Combined Ops + BAF + PMC)

Actually, Reinforcements is really just BAF + PMC, with a kind of "OA lite". No Combined Ops in there.

As far as I know, Arma X is the only single package that contains CO+RFT. :)

[domokun 515]

Expansion is what i meant.

OK in that cause you are wrong. The important word is "standalone". This is because a standalone expansion does NOT require the original game, i.e. OA does NOT require A2. However, an expansion does require the original game.

So OA is not an expansion (as it does not require A2).

Whereas BAF and PMC are both expansions (as they both require OA).

The minutiae of the English language are difficult to navigate so, although although "PA is standalone expansion" is technically correct, I'd suggest calling it a sequel as most people would assume that it is an expansion, which it isn't.

A sequel would be the next game, like Arma2 was to Arma1, and Arma3 will be to Arma2 thats a sequel, sequel being a whole new game, whereas a n expansion is just that, a version that expands on the original game, thus OA expanded, on Arma2.

Also OA is a sequel as the plot takes place 3 years after A2.

Actually, Reinforcements is really just BAF + PMC, with a kind of "OA lite". No Combined Ops in there.

Thx for the correction. I've updated my previous post acccordingly.

Edited October 11, 2011 by domokun

[Gunter Severloh 4067]

Did you not see the link I posted, its from the Arma2 site itself. it clearly states that OA is an expansion,

BIS is not going by the story if they say OA is an expansion, that what i quoted its from the Arma2 site.

It can be a sequel as it says in the dictionary what sequel means:

b : the next installment (as of a speech or story); especially : a literary, cinematic, or televised work continuing

the course of a story begun in a preceding one.

But to be a sequel if your following the campaign story, to me there is no story as I didn't play the campaigns,

not since OFP have i played any campaigns, so to me realistically its an expansion of the existing game.

to me the next sequel to the game would be Arma3.

Read it yourself:

ARMA 2 was released in June and July 2009. An expansion pack titled ARMA 2: Operation Arrowhead was released in 2010.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARMA_2

under Sequel

On May 19th, 2011 the developers at Bohemia Interactive officially announced that ARMA 3 is in development.[31]

The game is said to offer radical engine improvements and a unique sandbox-style military gameplay.

The campaign is said to follow a small group of special forces and researchers that are sent to a Mediterranean island of Lemnos

deep behind enemy lines. The game is set to ship for Windows PC in summer of 2012.

Terms are relative to what they actually are in proper English usage of them.

In other references such terms can be used in other associations that take the proper terms out of context to

be used to describe something more specific to a person using the association, it be another way to describe something.

So in one way you are right if your associating to the story of the campaign, in general,

the terms are worded based on the context of their reference.

[domokun 515]

Gunter: you're absolutely right that BIS is "not going by the story". That is why this question has arisen so many times on this forum. People are confused. Which is a shame because it could be avoided. I'm afraid that you'll have to trust me on this (I'm an English native-speaker and I used to be an English teacher who now works in IT as a technical writer) - stating that a game is an expansion implicity suggests that you require the original to play. However, both you and I know that this is not the case for OA. That is why, OA is described as a standalone expansion.

As for you refuting that OA is a sequel to A2 simply because you didn't play the campaigns, that's your choice but the facts are here:

http://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Armaverse_Timeline

E.g. when Mark Reynolds (CIA field op) interrogates Mikola Bardak (captured by Razor team) and learns that Aslan Radayev ( international weapons dealer and major supplier for ChDKZ) has already fled Chernarus. Later Mark Reynolds traces Radayev to Zargabad, Takistan (OA). He leaves the firm to join ION Inc (PMC).

Edited October 11, 2011 by domokun

[mrcash2009 0]

So, Mobeus did you get all that? LOL.

I bet he read this and thought ... WTF.

:lurk:

[mobeus 10]

thanks to you all i wonderd and now i know. i have arma 2 and oa installed in the same folder so its CO.

---------- Post added at 01:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:19 PM ----------

So, Mobeus did you get all that? LOL.

I bet he read this and thought ... WTF.

:lurk:

yes a simple yes / no would have sufficed.