DarkLabor 10 Posted June 9, 2011 (edited) To delete. Edited December 31, 2012 by DarkLabor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
max power 21 Posted June 9, 2011 TROPHY was not designed, nor needs, to stop kinetic energy weapons (SABOT, etc) as it has the tanks thick armor for that purpose. However, the Iron Fist system can intercept KE weapons. Well in the context of the game, likely the answer to trophy will be a salvo of CE weapons or KE projectiles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MissionCreep 12 Posted June 9, 2011 Could TROPHY stop one of these? If so, it does deserve a trophy ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 9, 2011 Even Chuck Norris can't escape the fart of death. The A-10 is just too good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Charles 22 Posted June 9, 2011 T-90s have SHTORA, but it is not in the game :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfbite 8 Posted June 9, 2011 Wait hasnt dark labour given it ARENA active protection system :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maturin 12 Posted June 10, 2011 TROPHY was not designed, nor needs, to stop kinetic energy weapons (SABOT, etc) as it has the tanks thick armor for that purpose. Not really. Tank armor is much more effective at defeating CE than KE. The T-90 only has like 600m of equivalent armor vs KE. The trick is that only other tanks use KE weapons at present. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brute Force 10 Posted June 10, 2011 Not really. Tank armor is much more effective at defeating CE than KE. The T-90 only has like 600m of equivalent armor vs KE.The trick is that only other tanks use KE weapons at present. The Merkava 4M has plenty of armor to defend it from local (regional threats) KE shells, the biggest threat against it is ATGMs and that's where the automatically reloading TROPHY comes in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SgtBigRig 10 Posted June 10, 2011 well they did chose a future battlefield scenery so yea that is somtin to think about. god it would make tanks frustrating as hell tho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SWAT_BigBear 0 Posted June 10, 2011 I'm liking this story line, Several have complained recently and over the years about the US having "better shit". Now we get our ass kicked in 2012. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noubernou 77 Posted June 10, 2011 An active defense system would be cool for sure. :) I have had various version of Arena for Arma2, just never implemented. bFD1nrRGKOY r46o_p3HDJs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarlGustaffa 4 Posted June 10, 2011 Holy hell that looked awesome! If coupled with having an anti material sniper take out the detectors (to balance things out, and I've read it can be done), this would (ehh, could - needs to be tested for balance) be frigging awesome. Again, I'm worried about overpowering the tanks, although tanks feel artificially weak atm, with way too straight shooting launchers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steakslim 1 Posted June 10, 2011 I'm all for making tanks harder to kill. I agree they are a bit easy except under a few circumstances where you'd just be shit out of luck anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AstroMan 10 Posted June 10, 2011 Yeah, I wanna be like "OHH SHITE A TANK" not "Hope the crew doesnt bail and kill me when i hit it with this rpg." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steakslim 1 Posted June 10, 2011 Remember when the tank crews with little AKS's where more deadly than most other units? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted June 10, 2011 I watched the TROPHY explanation Video and now I have a question. Does this System also target birds? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfbite 8 Posted June 10, 2011 Remember when the tank crews with little AKS's where more deadly than most other units? Thats only because I'd walk up to make sure they were dead and then they'd hit me between the eyes... Either that or they'd go and cause havoc to a special forces squad! Just thinking... Would Arena work against bombs.... Or would the bomb detonate after being hit? ---------- Post added at 09:43 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:42 AM ---------- I watched the TROPHY explanation Video and now I have a question. Does this System also target birds? No the system recognises birds and small caliber projectiles and filters them out.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roberthammer 582 Posted June 10, 2011 (edited) Just thinking... Would Arena work against bombs.... Or would the bomb detonate after being hit? With Fully working Arena system , it can destroy bomb before it hits the tank Trophy/Arena systems don't work good against tank rounds aka anti-armour kinetic energy penetrators Edited June 10, 2011 by RobertHammer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLabor 10 Posted June 10, 2011 (edited) To delete. Edited December 31, 2012 by DarkLabor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfbite 8 Posted June 10, 2011 I think to be fair being hit by the trophy/arena will wess up a KE penetrators angle and possibly end up rendering it innefective against the armour anyway... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
max power 21 Posted June 10, 2011 Those KE projectiles are 20kg and have a fairly low diameter. It seems unlikely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfbite 8 Posted June 10, 2011 Hmmm good point.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brute Force 10 Posted June 10, 2011 I think to be fair being hit by the trophy/arena will wess up a KE penetrators angle and possibly end up rendering it innefective against the armour anyway... Only Iron Fist is effective against KE penetrators since it basically slices them in half or deflects them enough to make them loose their forward kinetic energy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maturin 12 Posted June 10, 2011 I watched the TROPHY explanation Video and now I have a question. Does this System also target birds? A bird is unlikely to be flying at the speed of a HEAT threat. And if the system can distinguish between a shell or rocket and a piece of flying concrete or shrapnel, then ignoring flesh and feathers should be no problem at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tsb247 0 Posted June 10, 2011 Yeah, I wanna be like "OHH SHITE A TANK" not "Hope the crew doesnt bail and kill me when i hit it with this rpg." That's what I am hoping for as well. Tanks are supposed to not only be devastating on the battlefield, they are also supposed to be terrifying. As of right now, they aren't so much terrifying as they are inconvenient. A single well-placed rocket usually takes them out of commission, and the crew is usually more of a threat as long as you fire your rocket before the tank sees you. If BI impliments Trophy or any other active defense system, tanks will finally be soemthing to be feared. I also like the idea of an anti-material rifle being used to disable the system. The Lynx would be perfect for that role! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites