Wikileaks diplomatic files.

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Hi all

Obviously everyone wants to see what these files say.

Earlier today I could not access their site. Site overloaded due to interest I thought so come back later.

Subsequently looking at the news I find there are reports across the web of Wikileaks Site being subject to a distributed DoS attack. They have been mirroring and switching their server host locations to prevent DoS attacks and mitigate their effects.

Even their Twitter account has been down which I did not think was possible due to overload.

28 November 2010 Last updated at 16:58

Wikileaks 'hacked ahead of secret US document release'

Whistle-blowing website Wikileaks says it is under attack from a computer-hacking operation, ahead of a release of secret US documents.

"We are currently under a mass distributed denial of service attack," it says on its Twitter feed...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11858637

As always follow the link to the original article in full

As a result they have released an insurance file over torrent and various peer to peer networks including DarkNet. The file is very large.

What it contains?

Kind Regards walker

Edited December 5, 2010 by walker
Added legal warning

[soul_assassin 1750]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11858637

and its a DoS attack, not DNS

[Colossus 2]

It's a DoS attack apparently. 4chan or some goverment agency, who knows.. :blues:

Source: BBC News

[Zipper5 74]

I'd hedge my bets on 4chan, seeking the lulz. ;)

Frankly, while I wasn't utterly surprised at what the previously released documents contained, I'd guessed a lot of it was going on... It's still shocking to me.

[walker 0]

Hi all

Another complaint of molestation has been brought against Julian Assange this time in an American Court:

http://cryptome.org/0003/wikileaks-molest.htm

Kind Regards walker

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Hi all

First reports have started to come out in the New York Times

http://www.nytimes.com/

Includes threat assement on Pakistan.

Regards walker

[Colossus 2]

Hi all

First reports have started to come out in the New York Times

http://www.nytimes.com/

Includes threat assement on Pakistan.

Regards walker

Didn't sound that bad. Yet? :d:

[walker 0]

Hi all

The Wikileaks site is currently down once again.

Make of that what you will. Though news sites are saying it is the Distributed DoS attack that has been going on all day.

Wikileaks Website Down: Twitter Updates On Attack

November 28, 2010 | Debbie Turner

Regular readers of OSM may remember we recently reported that Wikileaks, the whistle-blowing website, had announced via Twitter that it would shortly publish more leaks, hundreds of thousands of them, in news that it said would redefine global history.

Today Wikileaks has announced that just before the publication of these documents its website appears to be under attack, and announced on its Twitter feed which you can see here, “We are currently under a mass distributed denial of service attack,†according to Steven Musil over on Cnet News. Cnet also reports that it is unable to access the Wikileaks website right now...

http://www.onlinesocialmedia.net/20101128/wikileaks-website-down-twitter-updates-on-attack/

As always follow the link to the original article in full

Article on Cnet:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-20023932-93.html

It seems a little like shutting the door after horse has bolted as Wikileaks distributed to several media outlets and has an insurance file mirrored across the web and distributed via torrents on peer to peer systems and lodged in DarkNET.

I am guessing the insurance file contains the most embarasing items.

The information is out and that is all there is too it, if there is any Distributed DoS attack it just makes those doing it look impotent.

Kind Regards walker

Edited November 28, 2010 by walker

[icebreakr 3159]

Hiding a Guantanamo prisoner is Slovenia... tough job :) who knows, we might even see Obama visit us soon ;)

[walker 0]

Hi all

The revelations about enriched Urainium in Pakistan is why Al Qaeda are there, are not surprising.

Anyone one with half a brain realized that almost a decade back.

I pointed that out in the old forum when Dumsfeld tucked tail and ran from Afghanistan and let the real Al Qaeda and Bin Laden escape from the Tora Bora caves in order to chase after fairy tale links to 9/11 Bin Laden (you know the guy they let escape in the Tora Bora Caves in Afghanistan) and fantasy WMD presumably hidden in Sadam's shorts in his spider hole.

Afghanistan was chosen as Al Qaeda's initial base for several reasons:

i.They were already there

ii.Afghanistan was a political vacuum ripe for the picking

iii.They had established financial control of a quasi military organisation; the Taliban

iv.They had a financial support network from both the Arab and Muslim world

v.They had the infrastructure for a covert operations element; the Al Qaeda Franchise

vi.They had established financial control of a recruiting structure the Madrasahs in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

vii.They had established financial control over the Pakistan ISI.

viii.They had infiltrated control elements of the Pakistan ISI

ix.They had infiltrated covert elements within the Pakistani Police, Political parties, Judiciary civil service and Army.

x. They had Infiltrated the education system of the Pakistan elites, for the decades Wahhabi texts fill the schools of the Children of Pakistans leaders, even using the Kitab at-tawhid to replace the Koran.

Seems that the US State Department see that as Al Qeada's plan and goals too.

Kind Regards walker

[Baff1 0]

I haven't seen anything on the news so far that hadn't already been mentioned in the press in the past.

Al Quaida/Taliban/whoever attacked a nuclear missile silo in Pakistan at one point.

I think it might be a bit rich to say that Al Quaida had financial control over the ISI. That's stretching the boundaries of my imagination quite a lot.

With regards to a DOS attack on Wikileaks webpage, while that is always a realistic possibility, so is server flood. It's not like we aren't expecting it to get an enormous amount of hits tonight.

Edited November 28, 2010 by Baff1

[SD_BOB 10]

http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/

Only 220 releases so far...

Edited November 29, 2010 by Shadow.D. ^BOB^

[thomas c 0]

And a bit more.

[walker 0]

Hi all

Got to say, so far nothing "Bad" in the cables; embarrassing yes, but mostly for individual politicians, no surprises there, or countries like Saudi Arabia. Because in various cables Saudi Arabia is pointed to as being the source of Al Qaeda.

Actually it is more embarrassing for the US media which seems monetarily unable to say that the source of the terror is where USA's oil comes from. Far better to blame every Muslim than the Saudi Arabian Wahhabis as that truth leads to the embarrassing conclusion that in the end it is the US gas tank that is paying for terrorism.

Others point out things like I said that the reason we are in Afghanistan is to prevent Al Qaeda getting Pakistan's Nukes.

To clarify on Baff1's point:

...I think it might be a bit rich to say that Al Quaida had financial control over the ISI. That's stretching the boundaries of my imagination quite a lot...

I don't mean total control. Some of the money for various ISI projects historically comes from the same Wahhabi Saudi sources that also fund and are allies of Al Qaeda, that is how they started out back in the days of MAK, when Saudi Arabia started to convert Afghan and later Pakistanis muslims to Wahhbism. Also some of Al Qaeda's assets are inserted into to the financial services of the ISI. Hence, at times of their choosing Al Qaeda can alter the actions of the ISI using financial levers.

You may be aware of the saying who pays the piper calls the tune. By pulling the plug on a project Al Qaeda can punish or sack a successful ISI operative. Or Al Qaeda can pull the cash for the targets protection making it easier to assassinate them. The process they use to achieve this is financial control. Hence why I said:

vii.They had established financial control over the Pakistan ISI.

Many of the cables actually point out what America's enemies are up to like the Iranian Assassination attempt in London, though the inclusion of that secure website address is fucking stupid.

Kind Regards walker

Edited November 29, 2010 by walker

[Darkhorse 1-6 16]

I sincerley hope that Julian Assange is found in an alley somewhere with one in the heart and one in the head.

[Big Mac 19]

Meh I hope that PFC is found dead in an alley.

[Darkhorse 1-6 16]

I doubt that all the leaks are him.

[Big Mac 19]

I doubt that all the leaks are him.

He's a start.

[walker 0]

I sincerley hope that Julian Assange is found in an alley somewhere with one in the heart and one in the head.

Hi Darkhorse 1-6

If you want to live in a country where those who speak out in a way that the government does not like are extrajudicialy executed, may I suggest emigrating to China or North Korea or Iran or Saudi Arabia where such things take place. Just because people say things you don't like does not give you a right to kill them. You claim to live in Tennessee which last time I looked is part of the United States so I guess if you finished High School you can quote the First Amendment of the US constitution to me.

Just a quote from a well known author: "Many that live deserve death. And some die that deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then be not too eager to deal out death in the name of justice, fearing for your own safety. Even the wise cannot see all ends.", JRR Tolkein

Historically WikiLeaks seems to have done more good than bad:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks#Leaks

Perhaps you need to reconsider some of the things you say.

Kind Regards walker

Edited November 29, 2010 by walker

[Big Mac 19]

If you want to live in a country where those who speak out in a way that the government does not like are extrajudicialy executed, may I suggest emigrating to China or North Korea or Iran or Saudi Arabia where such things take place. Just because people say things you don't like does not give you a right to kill them. You claim to live in Tennessee which last time I looked is part of the United States so I guess if you finished High School you can quote the First Amendment of the US constitution to me.

Freedom of Speech doesn't extend to leaking classified docs...

[Darkhorse 1-6 16]

Oh can your crap walker. What he is doing is illegal, immoral, and dangerous. What right does that asshole have to publish private documents of the united states? it doesn't matter what the fuck the documents say, this is espionage, theft, treason if he was american, terrorism (yes I'm serious) and many more. What kind of world are we living in when people just stand by and let this happen?! I'm all for transparency but this is just wrong! In the past this sort of shit would have caused a war, sanctions, assasinations, etc. I realize that its just a single person or a website that's doing it instead of a country, but seriously, this is bullshit!

[walker 0]

Freedom of Speech doesn't extend to leaking classified docs...

Hi Big Mac

And Julian Assange is not a US citizen so your point is?

Kind Regard walker

[Darkhorse 1-6 16]

Well walker, the same logic applies to you bringing up the 1st amendment. Jackass

[soul_assassin 1750]

this is just humiliating. That whole "Slovenia can meet Obama if..." thing made me laugh so hard. Its like reading a bad Tabloid, only its not made up :| Oh and Darkhorse and Big Mac: all u guys are doing is just compounding the embarrassment, making douche-bag comments to back up a douche-bag foreign policy.

[walker 0]

Hi all

Interesting to note that there is a Gap in the Browse by creation date of the WikLeaks cables from 2001 to 2004. The period when the Iraq war was formulated. Is WikiLeaks keeping its powder dry?

In reply to Darkhorse 1-6 and your thoughts on the US Declaration of Independence; it starts "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..."

Or is your view one that says if you are not American you dont count?

I was born and bred in the UK, Scottish and English ancestry with touch of a Irish by the way, just to make things perfectly clear.

I just want to get your views clear in my head, before we proceed.

this is just humiliating. That whole "Slovenia can meet Obama if..." thing made me laugh so hard. Its like reading a bad Tabloid, only its not made up :| Oh and Darkhorse and Big Mac: all u guys are doing is just compounding the embarrassment, making douche-bag comments to back up a douche-bag foreign policy.

Soul_Assassin I cannot agree with your statement about the USA having a "douche-bag foreign policy" in the main US foreign policy in the so far released documents appears the same as any other nation. Their use of arm twisting to get their way seems normal to me. People do the same sort of thing to each other as do companies why should nations states not do so?

Kind Regards walker

Edited November 29, 2010 by walker

[wld427 1705]

this is just humiliating. That whole "Slovenia can meet Obama if..." thing made me laugh so hard. Its like reading a bad Tabloid, only its not made up :| Oh and Darkhorse and Big Mac: all u guys are doing is just compounding the embarrassment, making douche-bag comments to back up a douche-bag foreign policy.

comment from a guy who walks around with his head clearly up his own ass.

your host nation is the home of douchebaggery.

oh and darkhorse.... stop being suckered into these arguments amongst fools.

Edited November 29, 2010 by wld427