JAP 2 Posted April 17, 2002 Hi, I'm working on a few missions and i want to use the medical support feature from the command list. I am looking for a medevac for east and west side but no luck so far I ve seen one at TJP but its only the Blackhawk and it isn t finished/downloadable. That should also be added in the next patch, because that is a great feature calling in a medevac. Only need to figure out how to prevent AI from shooting at it ? Any idea's ? So anybody has/knows one somewhere ?? If possible no armament on it ! THX Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darkhawk 0 Posted April 17, 2002 put it as nutral for both sides just like resistance is nutral (in reality you are never suppose to open fire on a vehicle that has the red cross on it) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
malick 0 Posted April 17, 2002 I think there are one or two at www.ofpec.com and/or ofp.gamezone.cz Check these sites for some scripts also: there are some that allow you to call for heli evac good luck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAP 2 Posted April 17, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Malick @ April 17 2002,13:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think there are one or two at www.ofpec.com and/or ofp.gamezone.cz Check these sites for some scripts also: there are some that allow you to call for heli evac good luck<span id='postcolor'> THX It already is working fine, but with a MI-17 and Blackhawk, but there is no difference to tell if that is a medical blackhawk or a regular one, so that s why i need the skinned one without weapons pref. And you don t need a script to make it work, you can make it work with the support waypoint. No medevacs to be found though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VXR 9 Posted April 17, 2002 I am working on a medevac with textures i ant tell when it will be released XiR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scout 0 Posted April 17, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Darkhawk @ April 17 2002,14:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">put it as nutral for both sides just like resistance is nutral (in reality you are never suppose to open fire on a vehicle that has the red cross on it)<span id='postcolor'> right......... to quote one of WWII veterans in the pacific: "all this godamn cross ever did was to help the japs aim their bombs better" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAP 2 Posted April 17, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (scout @ April 17 2002,16:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Darkhawk @ April 17 2002,14:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">put it as nutral for both sides just like resistance is nutral (in reality you are never suppose to open fire on a vehicle that has the red cross on it)<span id='postcolor'> right......... to quote one of WWII veterans in the pacific: "all this godamn cross ever did was to help the japs aim their bombs better"<span id='postcolor'> Don t make fun of my name now  BTW, gonna solve it with UN addon untill there is one to replace it with. It s for a CTF map, so human players can see difference and hopefuly not shoot at it. Anybody got them seperate the choppers ? UN is 25 Mb np for broadbanders ... but ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
advocatexxx 0 Posted April 17, 2002 What makes you think the enemy wouldn't shoot at med evac in real life ? If those rescued soldiers get treated for their injuries, then they'll be back on the battlefield. It's simple logic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAP 2 Posted April 17, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (advocatexxx @ April 17 2002,17:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What makes you think the enemy wouldn't shoot at med evac in real life ? Â If those rescued soldiers get treated for their injuries, then they'll be back on the battlefield. Â It's simple logic.<span id='postcolor'> i know, but i m counting on fairplay of human players and besides, isn t it kinda cool that they look different ... Gotta think of the atmosphere too ... not ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
advocatexxx 0 Posted April 17, 2002 Russians: Uhhh. look at that, I see 40 Medical choppers coming in to rescue all those soldiers we so bravely fought. But we can't shoot at them because that's morally wrong. Sure they'll probably heal 80% of those wounded men, and they will probably be back here on the battlefield within days, ready to kill us.. But it's just wrong to shoot at them" If anything they'd be better off sending in HMMWVs or Medical M113s than the highly visible, super loud, very vulnerable choppers. Great idea, but letting the enemy shoot at you would add all the more challenge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-SWAF-Lunatic 0 Posted April 17, 2002 All army's belonging to countries that have signed upto the geneva convention abide by it, and are forbidden from shooting troops, vehicles and buildings, with the red cross on, unless the troops etc are using the red cross under false pretences. I agree that not everybody sticks to the geneva convention, but in the Falklands war, the argentinian and British hospital ships were in a safe zone, almost side by side, neither got bombed. So the geneva convention does work. Its a matter of honesty, and chivalry. It is upto individuals to stick to the geneva convention, but i think that adding the Helo Casevac would be cool, it adds reality to the game, and that is what OPFP is about. Sorry if ive bored anyone, but i have to study the rules of the geneva convention once a year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
advocatexxx 0 Posted April 17, 2002 "Hey Brit sailors, you guys have some morphene you could lend us ?" "But of course we do. Mind if we send some surgeons over to help you with your casualties ?" "Not at all." LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scout 0 Posted April 17, 2002 the flakland war was pretty chivalry war but, in wars that sign the faith of countries things are easily turn on the ugly side. whats more, in this era of Stand-off wepons, u cant know what ur hitting, unless the radar blip wil blip in a shape of a cross..... by the way, if we've got the star of david, what shape should it have? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAP 2 Posted April 17, 2002 I m implementing it in a CTF map, and it s covering the whole map, so no ctf that only uses 500m2. So if you re in the middle of the map or in enemy territory it would be rather useless calling in medical support from an M113 ambulance. Especialy considering the way AI is driving sometimes, the map is kogulev ( speed on hills ) and ammo is limited, so no throwing away lives/armament and going all the way back to get your things because that was the last rpg you were carrying before you died. The whole point of implementing that in a ctf map is because i am making a ctf map where people think before they act. Plan a tactic, don t rush in but do it like it is supposed to be. So armament is limited and no vehicle respawn. I know how i react on a standard ctf map ( size ) if i lost my equipment again and have to hike back to it. If i know when i get killed i have no chance getting my equipment back without any transportation i WILL see the point in retreating a bit and calling a medevac to heal and then proceed with my attack. So that s why i think the medevac is the best solution for my needs ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Jub-Jub Bird 1 Posted April 17, 2002 Typically however, medievac would not take place in such a dangerous situation in anycase...It would be illogical and highly dangerous to send a medievac chopper into the combat zone. Troops are transported backs and forth as far from the line of combat as possible to reduce the risk of more lives. Jubs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAP 2 Posted April 17, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (The Jub-Jub Bird @ April 17 2002,21:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Typically however, medievac would not take place in such a dangerous situation in anycase...It would be illogical and highly dangerous to send a medievac chopper into the combat zone. Troops are transported backs and forth as far from the line of combat as possible to reduce the risk of more lives. Jubs<span id='postcolor'> I agree, but on a ctf map it s kinda hard to figure out where the frontline is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Jub-Jub Bird 1 Posted April 17, 2002 true...all goes to show how small the islands really are in reality...the frontline is all over. Jubs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USSoldier11B 0 Posted April 18, 2002 I would shoot enemy med-evac in combat if I could get away with it. "All's fair in love and war." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAP 2 Posted April 18, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (USSoldier11B @ April 18 2002,03:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"All's fair in love and war."<span id='postcolor'> Remind your GF never to put on that nurse outfit she bought to surprise ya Share this post Link to post Share on other sites