Google Ceases Censoring in China

[savagevcb 10]

Jok, shut up, wrong topic for gun law, and your coming over as the sort of Yank idot who would lop off his wedding tackle and replace it with a minigun if you could get away with it.

To be honest, I respect Google less now. When they were cooperating they had a chance to change things peacefully and calmly, avoiding a bloody revulotion that will cost countless lives. If things carry on like this, then people like Jok will be the ones to decide China's future...

[dmarkwick 261]

Before anyone goes praising Google for this PR stunt, the previous big news about Google and China was that Google agreed to censor its own search results for the Chinese government. Now Google is back at square one, not having done anything good but having done something morally questionable for 4 years.

What they did, in a practical sense, is comply with that country's law.

[Clavicula_nox4817 0]

What they did, in a practical sense, is comply with that country's law.

What is ethical and what is lawful are not always the same things.

[Placebo 29]

the violent morons are the ones that got illegal guns, they dont give a damn about gun laws. a gun free society is at mercy of the criminals that own illegal guns...think about it.

possibly 99% of the guns in somalia are illegal, just to satisfy your case, and no law in the world can remove them.

anyways you guys are good servants of the state, have fun till the day you look down the barrel of an illegal gun. if you live to tell you get some guns yourself, i can say that much for sure.

Infraction +1 for ignoring moderator's instruction.

Call me a cynic, but reading the news articles about this I got the impression it was more due to the Chinese government sponsored (allegedly) hacking and DOS'ing their servers/Email accounts rather than any kind of moral/ethical reasons.

[maddogx 13]

I don't get the people who say "Google doesn't deserve praise for pulling out of China because they shouldn't have gone there in the first place". It's like saying an alcoholic doesn't deserve a pat on the back for giving up his addiction. People make mistakes, and when they manage to rectify them it's a good thing. Of course no one deserves a medal for merely undoing something they screwed up in the past, but there's no point being all negative about it. :)

[echo1 0]

Before anyone goes praising Google for this PR stunt, the previous big news about Google and China was that Google agreed to censor its own search results for the Chinese government. Now Google is back at square one, not having done anything good but having done something morally questionable for 4 years.

Realizing that you've done wrong and stopping is generally considered to be a good thing in Western civilization... Like what MadDogX said, you sound like the kind of guy who'd tell an alcoholic to drink himself to death for the sake of consistency.

Edited March 26, 2010 by echo1

[Herbal Influence 10]

What exactly is the reason Google suddenly went from Saulus to Paulus, from "do evil" into "do no evil"-strategy again?

Starting with it's CEO Schmidts own voice on privacy of data:

"If you don't want people to learn what you have done you should first think about doing it at all."

This attitude matches too good with the dictator "Big Brother" of George Orwells novell "1984": I don't think they have ever had any moral problems with censoring.

It's all about a PR gag now.

And Google is well aware it's inevitably for they are losing ground in Europe every day the last months, so a PR coup is quite important these days. And it's much cheaper than paying for advertisements in the media.

Like I would have told Bill Gates doing in Malaria about a six years ago.

Normal marketing couldn't help Microsoft any more.

Only as a collateral effect of this PR show - it might help some Chinese people to feel their bonds.

Edited March 26, 2010 by Herbal Influence

[celery 8]

I don't get the people who say "Google doesn't deserve praise for pulling out of China because they shouldn't have gone there in the first place". It's like saying an alcoholic doesn't deserve a pat on the back for giving up his addiction. People make mistakes, and when they manage to rectify them it's a good thing. Of course no one deserves a medal for merely undoing something they screwed up in the past, but there's no point being all negative about it. :)

Realizing that you've done wrong and stopping is generally considered to be a good thing in Western civilization... Like what MadDogX said, you sound like the kind of guy who'd tell an alcoholic to drink himself to death for the sake of consistency.

Like Placebo said (and is evident in the news), Google ceased its cooperation with the PRC government because of its sponsored hacking of Gmail accounts. They'd most likely be still happily working together without the hacking incident, which is why I don't get the people who think Google has made amends and finally started following its own motto.