Halting Equipment Loss in Water? Patrols?

[HateDread 13]

Hey guys,

How do I stop my men from losing their equipment after long periods of swimming? I want to be able to spend as long as I like in the water without losing equipment.

Also, how do I set a unit to patrol between a few points? IE. between P1 and P2?

Cheers,

- HateDread.

[skooma 10]

I noticed this happening too. Do you have ACE2?

[HateDread 13]

Correct. I remember it from vanilla ArmA - it seems to take much longer in ACE.

[HateDread 13]

Seems to happen instantly when spawning an armed player direction into water at mission start - AI don't seem to be effected this way?

Any help?

[sic-disaster 311]

I think it has to do with player speed.

The faster you swim, the faster you will lose equipment. It might help to set their speed lower.

[HateDread 13]

Thing is, I need the players to be able to swim at normal speed, which is already very slow.

I'm looking for a script that stops this from happening. :/

[Splicer 10]

Maybe a work around would be to let the weapons disappear and rearm your units once they get to shore?

Just a thought.

Best, Splicer.

[blakeace 11]

Ok just looking at this a different way, haven't tested or anything, and not sure how it would go with the backpack of ace.

What if you adapted these scripts to create a pack gear into waterproof plastic bag/container script using an add action. Then swim your river, after getting out of the river have another addaction to take your gear out of the imaginary plastic bag and rearm?

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=76731&highlight=save+gear

Just a thought.

Edited January 16, 2010 by blakeace

[HateDread 13]

Thing is, we're talking about assault rifles, which would be hard to place in plastic bags, wouldn't they?

Also, if I spawn the weapons on the players when they hit the shore, it's going to be obvious - they lose the actual physical model when swimming, then it appears in their hands on shore?

Isn't there some sort of command to control this? It seems it takes longer in ACE, as if they found a variable that they could change?

Cheers,

- HateDread.

[Splicer 10]

Thing is, we're talking about assault rifles, which would be hard to place in plastic bags, wouldn't they?

I don't think so. If I were going to need my weapon I'd look for the biggest plastic I could get/buy! :D

Seriously, pragmatically speaking plastic bags will never be a show stopper for a military operation where rifles need to be wrapped up.

My 2 cents. :D

Best, Splicer.

[HateDread 13]

Well, alright, I knew someone would take me up on that :P

I just don't have the faintest idea where to begin scripting that sort of thing. :/

[blakeace 11]

Thing is, we're talking about assault rifles, which would be hard to place in plastic bags, wouldn't they?

Also, if I spawn the weapons on the players when they hit the shore, it's going to be obvious - they lose the actual physical model when swimming, then it appears in their hands on shore?

Isn't there some sort of command to control this? It seems it takes longer in ACE, as if they found a variable that they could change?

Cheers,

- HateDread.

Plastic container/Plastic bag was just something to give meaning to the action. You could say secure gear before swimming, So you don't lose every thing.

Visually can't help you. Unless you use a boat instead ;)

More seriously, possibly you could get fancy with using the attachto script to pin the weapon to your back?

Edited January 18, 2010 by blakeace

[HateDread 13]

No, I like your bag idea.

Problem is, how do I even go about adding the action to the menu, then remembering what the player had, and restoring it once they're out of the water? That just boggles my mind.

[blakeace 11]

No, I like your bag idea.

Problem is, how do I even go about adding the action to the menu, then remembering what the player had, and restoring it once they're out of the water? That just boggles my mind.

Ok this is just an adaptation of Xeno's code in the link in a previous post of mine.

Not tested on a Dedi. Just quickly tested local.

If you are using revive or respawn you will loose all your gear if shot while swimming unless they are set to giving you the gear you had at the start.

Place this in your players init line

actionId = this addAction ["Secure Gear", "SecureGear.sqf", ["", 8], 1,     false, true,"", " _target == player"];

SecureGear.sqf

_p = _this select 0;
  weapons = weapons _p;
  magazines = magazines _p;


   removeAllItems _p;
   removeAllWeapons _p;

_p removeaction actionid;
actionId = _p addAction ["UnSecure Gear", "UnSecureGear.sqf", ["", 8], 1,     false, true,"" , " _target == player"];

UnSecureGear.sqf

    _p = _this select 0;
   removeAllItems _p;
   removeAllWeapons _p;
   {_p addMagazine _x} forEach magazines;
   {_p addWeapon _x} forEach weapons;
   _primw = primaryWeapon _p;
   if (_primw != "") then {
       _p selectWeapon _primw;
       // Fix for weapons with grenade launcher
       _muzzles = getArray(configFile>>"cfgWeapons" >> _primw >> "muzzles");
       _p selectWeapon (_muzzles select 0);
   };
_p removeaction actionid;
actionId = _p addAction ["Secure Gear", "SecureGear.sqf", ["", 8], 1,     false, true,"" , " _target == player"];

Edited January 18, 2010 by blakeace

[HateDread 13]

Just tried it - works once, but then fails when I try and secure gear a second time.

This happen to you?

[blakeace 11]

Just tried it - works once, but then fails when I try and secure gear a second time.

This happen to you?

Yep sorry I was on the phone while doing this and didn't really test it. It seems to be the choice of variables, which I just changed from local to global. I forgot to rename them as they are reserved words. Works multiple time now sorry.

This one should work, though I am no scripting guru so no promises.

SecureGear.sqf

_p = _this select 0;

  weapons1 = weapons _p;
  magazines1 = magazines _p;


   removeAllItems _p;
   removeAllWeapons _p;

_p removeaction actionid;
actionId = _p addAction ["UnSecure Gear", "UnSecureGear.sqf", ["", 8], 1,     false, true,"" , " _target == player"];

UnsecureGear.sqf

_p = _this select 0;
   removeAllItems _p;
   removeAllWeapons _p;
   {_p addMagazine _x} forEach magazines1;
   {_p addWeapon _x} forEach weapons1;
   _primw = primaryWeapon _p;
   if (_primw != "") then {
       _p selectWeapon _primw;
       // Fix for weapons with grenade launcher
       _muzzles = getArray(configFile>>"cfgWeapons" >> _primw >> "muzzles");
       _p selectWeapon (_muzzles select 0);
   };
_p removeaction actionid;
actionId = _p addAction ["Secure Gear", "SecureGear.sqf", ["", 8], 1,     false, true,"" , " _target == player"];

Try that, as I said I haven't tried on a dedicated. But I think it should be ok as the action would be performed local.:butbut:

[HateDread 13]

After running it for a while, attempting to unsecure results in problem opening the gun's pbo, and in the cases where that doesn't occur, the gun is not restored. This is running for a min or two on x4 speed.

Ideas?

[HateDread 13]

And, I tried using ACE Ruck Sacks as an idea - they completely disappear alongside the other gear :/

[blakeace 11]

After running it for a while, attempting to unsecure results in problem opening the gun's pbo, and in the cases where that doesn't occur, the gun is not restored. This is running for a min or two on x4 speed.

Ideas?

No idea, I am not a scripting guru sorry, but just took Xeno's code and just changed when each part kicked in. Instead of when you die, let you choose when to save and restore your gear.

So I really have no idea about this, and would have to bump it up the knowledge chain sorry.

Re ACE stuff, even more out of my range sorry.

Oh well was worth a try. Sorry it didn't solve your problem.

[HateDread 13]

It's all good, mate, this is a tough one. Thanks for trying! (:

Refresher; I need to get my troops to swim from far out at sea, into the shore, without losing their equipment.

Any ideas, anyone?

[Feint 137]

Wasn't this "Feature" of dropping inventory while swimming removed in Vanilla patch 1.03 or something? There should be a way of preventing the game from doing this in the first place, let alone trying to restore the inventory after the game removes it.

I'm with you. I made a mission where I HALO'd into an objective, landed in the water, and after a few breaststrokes lost everything except for my sidearm. Lost the ACE2 backpack with the explosives, lost my NV goggles, ug!

This has been a problem since Arma 1 days.

Also, what is it about a pistol, radio, compass, GPS and map that prevent those items from washing away into the water? Can the unremovable quality of those items be applied to all inventory items? Or are they not removed because of their position in the inventory? For example a glow stick or IR strobe seems to be just as small as a pistol or GPS receiver. But those two items are washed away in water. But maybe it isn't because of their size, it's because of where they sit in the inventory (in those larger boxes).

Edited March 1, 2010 by Feint

[sick1 13]

Has anybody found a fix for this yet? I'm making a seal campaign and i can assure you seals don't drop there gear.