Duke_of_Ray 0 Posted August 2, 2002 That is the land of the Jews, anybody else! If the people Isreal say it is ok for other to be there that is one thing, but when people are doing suicide bombings the Isrealies have to take action, I one thing that I like about Isreal is that they go through with their action and do what they have to do to protect themsleves. I am not trying to make this into a God disscussion so mods dont kick me and do not get mad at this, but like God said in the Bible after the Jews disobeyed Him ,by not killing all of their enemies, that these people would be a thorn in the side of the Isrealies for ever. My belief is there are two possibilites that can cuse all the violence to end. 1. Isreal turns back to God. 2. The end of the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bogo 0 Posted August 2, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Aug. 02 2002,21:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That is the land of the Jews, anybody else! If the people Isreal say it is ok for other to be there that is one thing, but when people are doing suicide bombings the Isrealies have to take action, I one thing that I like about Isreal is that they go through with their action and do what they have to do to protect themsleves. I am not trying to make this into a God disscussion so mods dont kick me and do not get mad at this, but like God said in the Bible after the Jews disobeyed Him ,by not killing all of their enemies, that these people would be a thorn in the side of the Isrealies for ever. My belief is there are two possibilites that can cuse all the violence to end. 1. Isreal turns back to God. 2. The end of the world.<span id='postcolor'> Sow actualy you don't care about the thrue you care only what you think. And you may take some time to read the bible because last time i read it that sentence wasen't there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bernadotte 0 Posted August 2, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (scout @ Aug. 02 2002,15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">some Israelis dont think others understand the frustration of the need to live by the sword all their lives.<span id='postcolor'> I certainly don't understand your need to live by the sword. Â Stop settling on other people's land if you really don't want to live by the sword! It ain't rocket science, no matter how much you wish to complicate it. Â Even little Duke should be able to figure it out sooner or later. Â Umm... on second thought... Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kep Kelagin 1 Posted August 2, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Bernadotte @ Aug. 02 2002,20:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I certainly don't understand your need to live by the sword. Â Stop settling on other people's land if you really don't want to live by the sword! It ain't rocket science, no matter how much you wish to complicate it. Â Even little Duke should be able to figure it out sooner or later. Â Umm... on second thought... Â <span id='postcolor'> Well, mabye in 100-200 years, when Israel has won, nobody will talk or care about it anyways; stealing land is what every country has done, and will keep doing in future as well.The Europeans that we call Americans now have done that with the Indians, the same Europeans went to Africa too and the English did have a ball in India and wherever, and the Dutchies weren't that nice either, in Indonesia , etc etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duke_of_Ray 0 Posted August 2, 2002 What setence? Isreal is not taking anyboyds land! God gave them that land and it is theirs! Isreal is not doing anuthing wrong, they are defending themselves, and if the people of Palestine do not want to be in harms way, they should move. I could give you more reasons why I do not think there will be peace, but I would just get banned. Yall are right it ain't rocket science but yall still do not seem to understand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bernadotte 0 Posted August 2, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Aug. 02 2002,22:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I could give you more reasons why I do not think there will be peace, but I would just get banned.<span id='postcolor'>Tell us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duke_of_Ray 0 Posted August 2, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Aug. 02 2002,22:15) I could give you more reasons why I do not think there will be peace, but I would just get banned. Tell us. <span id='postcolor'> lol I would but my dream of moderating this forum would be lost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bernadotte 0 Posted August 2, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Aug. 02 2002,22:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">lol  I would but my dream of moderating this forum would be lost. <span id='postcolor'>Don't tell me God promised you a forum to moderate?  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bogo 0 Posted August 2, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Bernadotte @ Aug. 02 2002,23:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Aug. 02 2002,22:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">lol  I would but my dream of moderating this forum would be lost. <span id='postcolor'>Don't tell me God promised you a forum to moderate?  <span id='postcolor'> Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duke_of_Ray 0 Posted August 2, 2002 Anyway to get back on topic....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bernadotte 0 Posted August 2, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kep Kelagin @ Aug. 02 2002,21:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well,  mabye in 100-200 years, when Israel has won, nobody will talk or care about it anyways; stealing land is what every country has done, and will keep doing in future as well.The Europeans that  we call Americans now  have done that with the Indians, the same Europeans went to Africa too and the English did have a ball in India and wherever, and the Dutchies weren't that nice either, in Indonesia , etc etc.<span id='postcolor'>The UN was established to end territorial gain by conquest, so it's a very different world today than it was during the days of colonies, cowboys and indians. But most importantly, Israel doesn't want to win the Palestinian territories as long as they are populated by so many non-Jews.  That would upset their dream of a majority Jewish state. (By the way, I predict that within 30 years Israel will stop being a majority Jewish state, even within it's current borders.  By then there will be peace and the Israelis will look back on this period with great shame, asking themselves "Why didn't the old holocaust survivors amongst us say something?") Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paratrooper 0 Posted August 2, 2002 Israel has a right to exist: Within it's borders! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duke_of_Ray 0 Posted August 3, 2002 If the other countires of the world would do what they should and support Isreal, then we could all help rhe isralies send the people in Palestine to other Arab countries or their home countires, where they belong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted August 3, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Aug. 03 2002,02:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If the other countires of the world would do what they should and support Isreal, then we could all help rhe isralies send the people in Palestine to other Arab countries or their home countires, where they belong. <span id='postcolor'> their own country is palestene ...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duke_of_Ray 0 Posted August 3, 2002 LOL! No its the land of the Isralies, that why they should be moved to another country, if that what Isreal wants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bernadotte 0 Posted August 3, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Aug. 03 2002,02:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If the other countires of the world would do what they should and support Isreal, then we could all help rhe isralies send the people in Palestine to other Arab countries or their home countires, where they belong. <span id='postcolor'> And where do you belong? Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kep Kelagin 1 Posted August 3, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Bernadotte @ Aug. 03 2002,01:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kep Kelagin @ Aug. 02 2002,21:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well,  mabye in 100-200 years, when Israel has won, nobody will talk or care about it anyways; stealing land is what every country has done, and will keep doing in future as well.The Europeans that  we call Americans now  have done that with the Indians, the same Europeans went to Africa too and the English did have a ball in India and wherever, and the Dutchies weren't that nice either, in Indonesia , etc etc.<span id='postcolor'>The UN was established to end territorial gain by conquest, so it's a very different world today than it was during the days of colonies, cowboys and indians. But most importantly, Israel doesn't want to win the Palestinian territories as long as they are populated by so many non-Jews.  That would upset their dream of a majority Jewish state. (By the way, I predict that within 30 years Israel will stop being a majority Jewish state, even within it's current borders.  By then there will be peace and the Israelis will look back on this period with great shame, asking themselves "Why didn't the old holocaust survivors amongst us say something?")<span id='postcolor'> Yeah, well, call it colonies or whatever u want, its the same thing happening since mankind excists...And I don't think it will be solved the next 30 years, Israelis and the Palestinas will be hating each other for a long time, I think... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paratrooper 0 Posted August 3, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Aug. 03 2002,06:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">LOL! No its the land of the Isralies, that why they should be moved to another country, if that what Isreal wants. <span id='postcolor'> How clear can I make this? PALESTINE IS NOT PART OF ISRAEL AND NEVER HAS BEEN! Israel invaded Palestine in 1967, if they want peace then theyt must leave! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bogo 0 Posted August 3, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 03 2002,15:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Aug. 03 2002,06:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">LOL! No its the land of the Isralies, that why they should be moved to another country, if that what Isreal wants. <span id='postcolor'> How clear can I make this? PALESTINE IS NOT PART OF ISRAEL AND NEVER HAS BEEN! Israel invaded Palestine in 1967, if they want peace then theyt must leave!<span id='postcolor'> I think if Israel recognize Palestine by the borders of 1967 they could have actualy reachd peace. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paratrooper 0 Posted August 3, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bogo @ Aug. 03 2002,15:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 03 2002,15:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Aug. 03 2002,06:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">LOL! No its the land of the Isralies, that why they should be moved to another country, if that what Isreal wants. <span id='postcolor'> How clear can I make this? PALESTINE IS NOT PART OF ISRAEL AND NEVER HAS BEEN! Israel invaded Palestine in 1967, if they want peace then theyt must leave!<span id='postcolor'> I think if Israel recognize Palestine by the borders of 1967 they could have actualy reachd peace.<span id='postcolor'> It would be a big step in the right direction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bernadotte 0 Posted August 3, 2002 I agree. Â And every time we hear about UN resolutions 242 and 338, that's all they're referring to - returning to the 1967 borders. Â Instead, Israel just continues to build more settlements in the occupied land. Â By the way, there's no reasone to read 1001 history books on this topic. Â Anyone interested in knowing the real history of the crisis should check out this FAQ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bogo 0 Posted August 3, 2002 Even a while ago when the arab league offerd peace to the israel by reconising it if they will retreat to 1967 borders. But Israel insted of sitting down and discuss it they haven't done anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duke_of_Ray 0 Posted August 3, 2002 You can not trust thos Arab countires! Isreal is defending its homeland, PALESTINE IS IN ISREAL! THE ISRALIES ARE DOING RIGHT! A Isrealie in Plaestine would have no rights, but a guy who attempted a suicide bombing in Isreal was hurt and was treated by Isrealie doctors! I am noit saying all the people of Palestine are bad, but I would have to say the majority are. They do not like Americans, Christians, or Jews. Lots of Arabs do not like Jews. I support whatever Isreal does to take back whats theirs and defend themselves! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted August 3, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Aug. 03 2002,17:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You can not trust thos Arab countires! Isreal is defending its homeland, PALESTINE IS IN ISREAL! THE ISRALIES ARE DOING RIGHT! A Isrealie in Plaestine would have no rights, but a guy who attempted a suicide bombing in Isreal was hurt and was treated by Isrealie doctors! I am noit saying all the people of Palestine are bad, but I would have to say the majority are. They do not like Americans, Christians, or Jews. Lots of Arabs do not like Jews. I support whatever Isreal does to take back whats theirs and defend themselves!<span id='postcolor'> damn , it's worst than i thought - edit- i should take some more english teaches Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bogo 0 Posted August 3, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Aug. 03 2002,18:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You can not trust thos Arab countires! Isreal is defending its homeland, PALESTINE IS IN ISREAL! THE ISRALIES ARE DOING RIGHT! A Isrealie in Plaestine would have no rights, but a guy who attempted a suicide bombing in Isreal was hurt and was treated by Isrealie doctors! I am noit saying all the people of Palestine are bad, but I would have to say the majority are. They do not like Americans, Christians, or Jews. Lots of Arabs do not like Jews. I support whatever Isreal does to take back whats theirs and defend themselves!<span id='postcolor'> Where do you get that. Do you live on a diffrent planet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
