Still BSOD

[Bulldogs 10]

Ziiip. I'd suggest buying a tube of Artic Silver and taking off the heatsink then clean the heatsink and CPU then apply the artic silver (no more than 1mm thick).

What most likely happened is that after a while of running high temps you got a case of electro-migration. This would cause the heat conducting compound to shift or degrade. A good clean and fresh coat should do wonders. Alternatively, consider buying yourself a new good 3rd party Heatsink/Fan combo (HSF). You can get some pretty good ones for cheap and they'll allow you a better overclock.

[ziiip 1]

Thanks man. :) I'll take this mothaf**ka to service on monday and get a new layer of paste to replace the old one. ^^

[CrazyAviator 10]

NO MORE BSOD!!!!!! :D

Okay I hope this isnt a jynx but I've been running for the last couple days with zero BSOD and I think it really was because of a overheating. I know the minidump file that I got said something about a Driver failure but I bet anything that it was failing because the temperature was getting so freaking hot.

Today I tried setting my video settings up and the temp went DOWN! :butbut: Apparently the rumor that the game runs cleaner with higher settings is true. I've found this to be very true when it comes to the terrain and shadow detail levels

Here's how Im running right now

Windowed mode ON

Visibility (2000)

Texture Detail (High)

Video Memory (Normal)

Anisotropic filtering (Normal)

Antialiasing (Normal)

Terrain Detail (High)

Object Detail (High)

Shadow Detail (High)

Postprocess (High)

Interface Size (Normal)

With these settings and a floor fan going full blast on the side of the case, I'm seeing the temperatures only reach mid 80's, MAYBE 90 if theres alot of sheeet going on. Mind you this is multiplayer mode (Chenarus Life)

[ziiip 1]

With these settings and a floor fan going full blast on the side of the case, I'm seeing the temperatures only reach mid 80's, MAYBE 90 if theres alot of sheeet going on. Mind you this is multiplayer mode (Chenarus Life)

You should have ur problematic part of hardware checked out. Temps above 70 C are very likely to leave you without a CPU/VGA untimely.

[CrazyAviator 10]

Well im pissed. The Bluescreens are back, except their not even blue screens, just a crash to a blank black screen. I have to hard reset to get the computer to restart. Im going to order a new video card from newegg tonight (GTX 275). Maybe this will take care of the problem.

[CrazyAviator 10]

Hello guys, I had my first 2 BSOD ever in this game but it only showed for a second or 2 before rebooting (I have it set to reboot on bsod) so I dont know the specific message/code.

I do know this though: there is only 1 difference with my pre-BSOD config: I hadnt Installed Teamspeak! After installing TS, I played for a few hours before getting the BSOD. I rebooted, restarted TS and arma and I get another BSOD before im even in the menu!

Rebooted again, didnt start TS and played fine for 5 hours.. (Yes, I played a whole fucking day till 3am) :D

Now this may have been a coincidence of course, but it may also mean there's a conflict between the 2 programs (probably with the sounddriver, since I dont think TS uses much else).

I don't know if this is true or if either program is to blame, but I suggest turning off ALL programs you're running in the background, no matter how small or stable they are. You've probably tried this already, but i thought id suggest it just in case if you havent, because there may be other programs like TS that may be causing a conflict with your hardware for whatever reason.

Hope this helps! GL Officer! ;)

Saw this late, your pattern of BSOD sounds very familiar to mine. I too notice the game runs better on some days and then seems almost unplayable others. I tried shutting all my "extra" programs down just to see if it had an affect and I didnt notice any. I think that some of the problem is depending on whats going on the video card stresses out differently. You play DOT CLR right? Your name looks familiar and thats the only thing I ever do with ARMA anymore. I know that if I'm around alot of other players and lots of stuff is moving I'm more likely to crash. I also notice the more "objects" around me the more likely the crash, even if the temperatures dont reflect an increase. Today for example, I turned my PC on with the floor fan running, start teamspeak, start xfire, start ARMA2. Played CLR for about 2 hours and then crash. Restart, tried again, 10 minutes crash. Big difference in time spent in the game. So what made my game crash after 2 hours the first time and 10 minutes the second time? Nothing I was doing was different. This also makes me think its not a memory leak like some others have suggested.

I am truely baffeled by my BSOD/Crash, but running my 8800GT consistantly at such a high temp has probably sacraficed its stability. I dont think its going to be fair to judge exactly whats causing the crash anymore. I went to newegg tonight and a GTX275 + 750watt power supply is on the way...

I will report back when I have them installed

[cashxx 10]

I'm puzzled by the issue as well!!!

I just ordered some Artic Silver chip grease for my CPU instead of using the grease that came with the CPU. My issue though is caused by the GPU. I have a BFG 285 OC2 1GB and the temps they told me should be fine at what I am seeing. Here is a link of my bug report and temps noted below in the postings. I think the highest was 85c and BFG said that card is able to take that heat.

It seems like to me a RAM issue in the Video card or the Main RAM. I just installed an ATI 4890 and ordered OCZ ram and I'll swap that stuff out and see what happens.

THanks for the replies too everyone, other posts everyone has been rude! Myself and probably CrazyAviator is very appreciative!!!

[cashxx 10]

Well I swapped out my video card for a new ATI 4890 and just got done playing for about 3.5 hrs and ended with a crash of the arma application.

So its not my video card unless this one is getting too hot as well?? Highest was 81c taxed out.

I have run memtest on my pc for about 12 hrs so I don't think its ram. What else is there?

Here is the crash I got in the Application log for Windows Vista 32-bit.

Fault bucket 1402372123, type 1

Event Name: APPCRASH

Response: None

Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:

P1: arma2.exe

P2: 1.3.0.58627

P3: 4a783683

P4: StackHash_1cee

P5: 0.0.0.0

P6: 00000000

P7: c0000005

P8: ffffffff

P9:

P10:

Attached files:

C:\Users\ball\AppData\Local\Temp\WERD8D2.tmp.version.txt

These files may be available here:

C:\Users\ball\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\Report17b9a39f

The first log wasn't there but the second was under the ReportArchive:

Version=1

EventType=APPCRASH

EventTime=128956559394770695

ReportType=2

Consent=1

UploadTime=128956559425230695

Response.BucketId=1402372123

Response.BucketTable=1

Response.type=4

Sig[0].Name=Application Name

Sig[0].Value=arma2.exe

Sig[1].Name=Application Version

Sig[1].Value=1.3.0.58627

Sig[2].Name=Application Timestamp

Sig[2].Value=4a783683

Sig[3].Name=Fault Module Name

Sig[3].Value=StackHash_1cee

Sig[4].Name=Fault Module Version

Sig[4].Value=0.0.0.0

Sig[5].Name=Fault Module Timestamp

Sig[5].Value=00000000

Sig[6].Name=Exception Code

Sig[6].Value=c0000005

Sig[7].Name=Exception Offset

Sig[7].Value=ffffffff

DynamicSig[1].Name=OS Version

DynamicSig[1].Value=6.0.6002.2.2.0.256.4

DynamicSig[2].Name=Locale ID

DynamicSig[2].Value=1033

DynamicSig[22].Name=Additional Information 1

DynamicSig[22].Value=1cee

DynamicSig[23].Name=Additional Information 2

DynamicSig[23].Value=f404f046b52d888737efb84d128bb82f

DynamicSig[24].Name=Additional Information 3

DynamicSig[24].Value=e798

DynamicSig[25].Name=Additional Information 4

DynamicSig[25].Value=d99f39edc0885496131c1c4e844018e6

UI[2]=C:\Program Files\Bohemia Interactive\ArmA 2\arma2.exe

UI[3]=ArmA 2 has stopped working

UI[4]=Windows can check online for a solution to the problem.

UI[5]=Check online for a solution and close the program

UI[6]=Check online for a solution later and close the program

UI[7]=Close the program

State[0].Key=Transport.DoneStage1

State[0].Value=1

FriendlyEventName=Stopped working

ConsentKey=APPCRASH

AppName=ArmA 2

AppPath=C:\Program Files\Bohemia Interactive\ArmA 2\arma2.exe

Another Application Error:

Faulting application arma2.exe, version 1.3.0.58627, time stamp 0x4a783683, faulting module unknown, version 0.0.0.0, time stamp 0x00000000, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0xffffffff, process id 0x117c, application start time 0x01ca252c8ae87a77.

[CrazyAviator 10]

Gawd, if I get my new video card and ARMA2 still bluescreens Im going to fucking flip out. Your story is very sad Cashxx, the only other thing I can think about would be faulty bio's or something with the mother board that ARMA2 doesnt like. p.s. do you have a soundcard?

[dogz 10]

hmmm anyone that buys a new vga card hoping it will fix an undefined/unresolved system crash at best has a 50/50 chance of being happy....

I dont think it is specific to any brand type of card or temps... (as a rule).

I run a temp mon prog in the background and have alarms set to warn of overtemp.

I still get the same crashes with the room so cold the GPU/CPU temps are below 50C.

I think it is the compexity and stabilty of the game and its relationship with OS... it still needs some work.

ps I see lots of server crashes also.

Edited August 26, 2009 by dogz

[Bulldogs 10]

Cash, had a quick search and one other user was suffering the exact same crash (same faulty module detected, etc), he said :

deleting my saves and updating to CAT9.6 (ATi drivers) seems to have solved it

[nyran125 10]

wait till the next Generation of cards after the nividia 200 series. Whats the point in upgrading to something that Arma 2 has already made practically obsolete,lol. If you can run every other game well ACCEPT Arma 2 then just hold up a bit. Try turning AA off and post processing on low aswell. It doesnt look that bad with AA off and runs a hell of alot better. try also turning vidcard memory on to normal also. You get used to it. Im not having that many crashes to desktop anymore, but then again im mainly only using the editor mode which runs a million times better than the single player or multiplayer modes, because theres less stuff going on.

HOWEVER, i also tried a mission with 380 troops and 38 tanks on screen at once ,lol. That mission had nothing to do with the mission i actually created which was a spec op mission destroy key targets while a war was going on. And no crashes i played it for like 6 hours. If i had my AA on , and vid card memory on high and everything on high it would of crashed in a second.

Try turning stuff down a bit. And turn that damn AA off , which is a GPU card KILLER.

If turning all that stuff down or off doesnt work then i would seriously consider building a brand new rig in a year or so's time. Processor, gpu, ram upgrade ,the lot, BUT NOT yet. wait till next generation of GPU's are out.

My specs are average at the moment and im not having that many problems.

WindowsXP 32bit

8800 GTS 512mb

19" moniter

Intel core 2 Duo E6700 2.66Ghz clocked to 3Ghz

3 Gb's Ram DDR2.

And an ASUS Deluze motherboard.

3 years ago this was the state of the art but its oldish now and im not having many issues with this game accept all the normal stuff other people are having ,like artifacts on windows, texture popping or building textures appearing after a few seconds etc. But alot of us have that. Im running game on average on 20-50 FPS. If you have a better system than mine and your having problems, upgrading your GPU to a 200 series card will probably not fix it. Im hearing way more issues with the 200 series cards than im hearing with 8800 or 9800 seris of nividia cards.

Im running my game on

Visibility =3000

Quality preference =high

Resolution =1280X1024

EVERYTHING on normal including Video memory, only options that are different to normal are these :>

Antistopic Filtering =HIGH

Anti aliasing =OFF

Post processing =LOW

interface size =normal

the game runs fine without to many issues. The gam estill looks awesome with these settings, you just get use to it. After awhile you dont really remember that it looked any better,lol and you can actually enjoy the game :):):):)

Edited August 26, 2009 by nyran125

[CrazyAviator 10]

I don't feel like just "get used to it". The game needs to work properlly for the system I have. Besides I've already tried your settings, still BSOD. You guys need to starting reading this thread a little more. I think you'd see something other than your occassional CTD is going on. Maybe not I don't know. Tell you one thing, when I rebuild my pc in a year or whatever it won't be for arma 2 i certainly won't chance new hardware on it either.

[cashxx 10]

Its just frustrating.......one minute I can play for 3hrs or so and it crashes and then another time I can play for 15 minutes and it crashes.

I have tried underclocking my video cards, not overclocking the CPU, etc. I have run furmark for hours without an issue, I just got done running Prime95 over night and still no issues. I have also run Memtest overnight without issues.

It all seems to be an issue around Arma 2!! It has to be doing something to the video drivers or something to cause a BSOD. I know some have said its not possible but something is strange. It seems odd that with an NVidia card it crashes at about the same time with an ATI card, just different crashes.

CRAZY AVIATOR: I am using the onboard SoundMax sound card on the P6T Deluxe V2 with the latest drivers.

BULL DOGS: I am running the 9.8 drivers ATI Drivers. I have Uninstalled the game removed all files related to Arma and reinstalled and updated straight to 1.03.

I have UAC on Vista off, I have Windows Defender Off, Antivir off so it shouldn't be a corrupt driver install.

DOGZ:

Yea I know I didn't want to buy another video card, but I was really hoping that was the issue that I had a faulty one away everyone is saying its your hardware, etc. I have tested everything else except swapping parts out and that was the first attempt.

I'm at a lost now, I don't know what to try. All I can do is blame Arma 2, its seems to be based around it. What else is there? Any other ideas?

---------- Post added at 10:53 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:48 AM ----------

NYRAN125:

I have tried every combo of video settings in Arma2. From everything to normal with AA and Post Processing off to everything low to high to very high and every match settings possbile.

Actually I have found best to click the defaults button set the correct resolution and turn off AA and post processing to low and the anistrophic filtering off. I went from 15 minutes to 3 or 4 hrs with that setting. But something is wrong with Arma 2, changing those settings makes a huge difference in how long I can play and that shouldn't matter. But one odd thing no matter what settings I change I am always running around 30fps which makes no sense. I still think its something with Arma 2 programming.

Edited August 26, 2009 by cashxx

[Bulldogs 10]

The only other thing I can suggest is to uninstall Arma 2, then delete your arma 2 directory if it's still there, then rename the arma 2 directory under my documents, then goto HKLM->Software->Bohemia Interactive Studio, and delete the arma2 key entry (if using a 64 bit OS add ->WoW6432node, after Software)

After that, reinstall Arma 2 and run it as is (no patch) to see if there's any change.

[cashxx 10]

BULLDOGS: I have done that this past week except for the regedit. I'll give it a shot!!

But I have my doubts, I have installed a fresh OS of WinXP, Vista, Win7 and only installing Arma 2 with the same CTD and BSOD.

[kklownboy 43]

..

Turn off any PCI-E optimization/OC in your Bios, Asus has that, and is a lame vidcard issue... it OC the PCIe Bus up to 110!, make sure its at 100, and or test it.

[cashxx 10]

KKLOWNBOY:

My BIOS is currently set at defaults running stock. The PCIe is 100.

I also just got done running Furmark for about 11hrs along with GPUz running and no issues at all. The ATI temp didn't go over 80c and no crashes or errors of any sort. Same story I had with my Nvidia card!!

I'm at a lost as to what it is!! It has to be Arma 2 doing something to the video cards, but I would think everyone would have the issue unless the ones not having it aren't playing the game long enough??

Unless its a default BIOS setting set that isn't liked? I would think others with the P6T V2 would be complaining about the same thing, but I have seen others on here saying they don't have issues that have the same board.

[Bulldogs 10]

I'm guessing you've tried disabling Hyper-threading/Speedstep?

---------- Post added at 01:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:02 PM ----------

The "stackhash" error in many cases is caused by DEP. DEP stackhash problems only usually occur under Vista though. Even if DEP isn't the cause it could help stability and oversion to the problem by enabling a disable of DEP on Arma 2.

1. Open your Start menu and click Control Panel

2. Browse to "System Maintenance" then "System"

3. In the left panel, select "Advanced System Settings" from the available links

4. You should now see the System Properties Window, which will have three sections. The top section is labeled "Performance" and has a "Settings" button. Click this button.

5. Select the "Data Execution Prevention" tab.

6. Select the option which reads "Turn on DEP for all programs and services except those I select"

7. Use the "Browse" button to locate Arma2.exe.

8. Click Apply or OK to commit your changes.

[cashxx 10]

Correct.......I turned off HT hoping it would cure the stuttering like it has for some but no luck. Speedstep has also been disabled before. Not sure what its set at right now though. They may be enabled again since I defaulted the BIOS.

Edited August 27, 2009 by cashxx

[kklownboy 43]

well then its coming down to your RAM and or PSU. Your uber antec is which model?, and your ram voltage is in the 1.65 to 1.7 range?( adjust the QPI vt to stay with in .5 of your DDRvt) Is your XMP profile on? 999 is loose timmings.

Edited August 27, 2009 by kklownboy

[jw custom 56]

Try without OC your CPU, I've got a 920 aswell and had a lot of problems with it OC'ed along with ArmA2!!!

[kklownboy 43]

Try without OC your CPU, I've got a 920 aswell and had a lot of problems with it OC'ed along with ArmA2!!!

yeah with a OC on the i7, using the BLK, the volts needed to keep the QPI and RAM in the mix needs to be kinda high for "game stable", and a bump on the IOH too. Prime testing never really gets me game stable..

[cashxx 10]

KKLOWNBOY:

I believe Antec only makes one model of the 1000w. Quattro 1000

http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=NTk=

I have upped the RAM voltages, but have kept them under 1.65 because of the limit. I'm not sure if it was within .5 of the ddr voltage. I'll take a look.

XMP is off. But that makes me wonder about my RAM and CPU. The RAM I got is on the Compatibility List for the board, but using the XMP profiles don't work at all. Just ends with my PC not booting. My bclk I can't go over 168, if I go over it crashes.

You would think having everything at auto with no overclock and with the ram being on the Asus list it would work fine.

JW_CUSTOM:

I have tried and I am currently running the BIOS at defaults with everything set to AUTO. No OC is happening right now.

Whats a good app to check voltages.??

Edited August 28, 2009 by cashxx

[Bulldogs 10]

Try CPU-Z, it's free and gives you pretty much everything you need to know about the Ram and CPU (timings, voltages, etc)