Player representing USMC

[sparks50 0]

American culture dominates, thats just the way of the world. And if us Euros didn't like it, then why would we buy films, television and videogames themed around it?

[okdante 0]

American culture dominates, thats just the way of the world. And if us Euros didn't like it, then why would we buy films, television and videogames themed around it?

Because e.g. SAS: Secure tomorrow is...how to say it politely...you know.

And I don't think people in EU are too much keen for "standart/family evening/patriotic hearoes" US movies...apart from "just-watching-pictures" and movies with no storyline but great effects and eye-candy :) (like the death race for example)

[celery 8]

Americas Army, Delta Force series, Vietcong, Wolfenstein, MoH series , OFP, Arma, SWAT series, Soldier of Fortune, Spec Ops series, some of Tom Clancy's (even if there are different nationality characters)....

CoD series are showing more sides, but does not mean, that without cliche.

And in which one of those the player plays as a marine?

[okdante 0]

Talking about that US something...does not matter what. USMC, USAF, US Army...ok, let's say US armed forces. Really don't care which.

Imagine that there were majority of games and movies in the world about German army, would you care if the next one was about Heer instead of Luftwaffe, Marine, KSK or Polizei? If you were e.g. Japanese?

A diversity would be nice. Why not to have a fake conflict where e.g. Japan SDF and Indian Armed Forces would take part? (a game professionally made and distributed, I think it could strike the market which is full of cliches with a success)

And I, as a Czech, would be much more into playing something that "exotic" (if it was really professionally made) for me, rather than again that well-known US nothing new under the sun.

FarCry2 went into Africa-like conflict and they did a great footstep with that. And maybe showed a bit what are the problems in Africa sometimes about and some people to hold communion with oneself. But I would walk into a political thread about impact of our culture and our companies onto some African countries and I guess that's absolutely off-topic. Just FarCry2 was a good move talking about story.

Edited May 11, 2009 by Okdante

[Jorge.PT 10]

Talking about that US something...does not matter what. USMC, USAF, US Army...ok, let's say US armed forces. Really don't car which.

Imagine that there were majority of games and movies in the world about German army, would you care if the next one was about Heer instead of Luftwaffe, Marine, KSK or Polizei? If you were e.g. Japanese?

A diversity would be nice. Why not to have a fake conflict where e.g. Japan SDF and Indian Armed Forces would take part? (a game professionally made and distributed, I think it could strike the market which is full of cliches with a success)

Nahhh, Switzerland vs Iceland that would be a great game :p

[okdante 0]

Nahhh, Switzerland vs Iceland that would be a great game :p

Eeexactly! I can't imagine that, so it means it could be much better than the cliche ...and of course the same it could be much worse. But there is much more you can work out about such plot.

With a "guarantee" like involving the US is, even if you did a washout, it would sell somehow. Nobody would buy a washout about Switzerland and Iceland (in case of Iceland...maybe Russia already did, eh :/ )

With a cliche plot you usually have nothing to ruin, but also nothing marvellous to create, except you were genius.

[Scrub 0]

I agree, it would be refreshing to have someone else doing some stability/rescue/ protect the people things. Who knows? maybe there will be an Arma III, and BIS will focus on watercraft. The French/Chinese/Russian/UK could go after the Somali pirates at sea and do an offenseive on land? THAT would be an awesome, messy, difficult campaign. Could get scaled up pretty easy into a major war... Hmm.

[Hell_Toupee 0]

Just sad that games,movies even tv shows have to be Americanized to actually sell in the US, TV shows like The Office Life on mars etc

Would be nice to get a Euro or Brit faction for once :)

[okdante 0]

That is a good idea, an up-to-date game about Indian navy hunting Somali pirates could be nice :D

Ok, so here we go with a campaign for ARMA II...

Citizens of Chernarus are pirating on foreign fleets, selling the goods and recieving the ransom, their leaders are having a good time and living a luxurious life.

Chernarussian Defence Forces is impotent and corrupted and silently tolerating the pirates, officially fighting against them.

National Party is stealing all the humanitarian aid sent to the starving and poor Citizens of Chernarus and reselling it to the citizen.

Chernarussian Movement of the Red Star wants the pirates to use the money in favour with the great almighty Red Star.

Some foreign nations have bad experience with Chernorus regarding near past or colonisation past and also, they are bounded by international laws and by peaceful image.

There is no way to invade a sovereign country, there is nobody to "free", there are some joint operations to protect merchant fleets, but still the foreign factions are not really "joint" and as always...the the Seventh Superpower is watching to pick up any mistake they make and give it a full publicity. Some of those foreign factions care more about public opinion, some of them care more about the goods.

And there we have a pretty complicated situation...and moreover we have some pure money-loving foreign mercenaries "randomly" supporting different factions and foreign companies, merchants (and sometimes silently superpower governments too) selling weapons to everyone who has money.

Sometimes we have a classified vessel of some foreign faction with controversial shipment taken over by pirates and given enough publicity by the 7th superpower...

Such a plot could involve almost any superpower (US, RF, UK, France, India, China...) and any combat situation. Do you see? Or you say there could be a problem with the old-fashioned full scale land combat situations which of course is what we all want in the game...who knows which foreign faction gets pissed off too much, gets the spike and will not care anymore about the international laws and int. public opinion.

And as a bonus, we could have some Chernorus neighboring country in a war/status-quo with Chernorus. Both countries randomly (regarding the best profit for foreign factions) receiving foreign aid and used war equipment.

And the main hero? Optional.

A situation you can't solve, after one status-quo, there will be another status-quo... isn't that the name they used in the early stage of Operation Flashpoint?

World is complicated. That would be immersion! You never know who you should side, because in the war...everyone is guilty.

Edited May 11, 2009 by Okdante

[celery 8]

Ok, so here we go with a campaign for ARMA II...

Now try to make a campaign like that.

[okdante 0]

I am just a "player", "user" and only good about giving feedback and downloading other's stuff:D Never did any add on, campaign nor mission. Only messed up a bit with editor :D

I've got other path of life to walk. I could help only with the storyline and all that non-technical stuff :D :D But.... anyone can use this as an inspiration. Erm... :D (still I'd like to see something like that did in a professional way)

Edited May 11, 2009 by Okdante

[sparks50 0]

Theres plenty of opfor user missions for Arma. Casing point, "The Cause" by Rejenorst.

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=1624