bangtail 0 Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) I dont recommended SLI in this game, many problems, but if you cant solve that, it peaks yours FPS pretty nicely. Or maybe not. According to one of your previous posts, you don't even have an SLI setup, so why are you preaching about something you have no current experience of? SLI works fine. Edited February 17, 2011 by BangTail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stk2008 14 Posted February 17, 2011 Holy crap BangTail you have two rigs better than my one :( Fair play matey but I will be around soon because surely running them must use a lot of electric up so I will save you money if I take one off your hands :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted February 17, 2011 Holy crap BangTail you have two rigs better than my one :(Fair play matey but I will be around soon because surely running them must use a lot of electric up so I will save you money if I take one off your hands :) LOL /bolts door Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted February 17, 2011 with 4 gtx580's bolting the door is probably a good idea :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow NX 1 Posted February 18, 2011 Haha indeed, i would want one :D Anyway, i have to say i must take few things back i said about the GTX460 performance. First of all it really offers big OC potencial and i managed to get the already Factory OCed ( 715Mhz ) Card to 830 stable with a tiny bit more voltage and the difference of around 6-10 frames ( even more on Takistan maps ) is definatly nice. Still occasionally it get down to 15 or so frames but that rarely happens and i still can play ok. Also found pretty good and still high enough settings that make the game run pretty good as long as there arent hat many AIs. Even Counterratack plays well with nearly no popup but there textures can be set to normal at max... yet i noticed on normal it already looks lot better than it looked on my old HD4870 andhigher usually doesnt even show a real difference on the GTX360 as it doesnt seem to load the textures in much higher resolution even if set to it. Also tried to OC the Phenom a bit but its potencial is rather low and even light OC leads to ArmA2 freezing in AI heavy missions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MissionMaximus 10 Posted February 20, 2011 (edited) Hey BangTail, I was wondering what you thoughts were about your monitor and how the IPS panel performed with games? The reason I asked, I just ordered the Dell UltraSharp U2711 and was wondering about the response time of 6ms. I read alot of reviews and they said it was not a problem with just a few saying not for gaming. Just wondering about it and would like to know your thoughts on it? Edited February 20, 2011 by MissionMaximus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted February 20, 2011 (edited) I didn't buy the NEC's with gaming in mind tbh but they are fine (I had HP ZR30ws before but I wasn't happy with them). The response time should not be an issue (although I don't have any experience of Dell's IPS panels) but I would say that IPS monitors are not worth the extra money if all you are doing is gaming. A fast TN panel is going to be better for gaming. That's not to say that they are 'bad' for gaming, just not cost effective. Edited February 20, 2011 by BangTail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lozz08 10 Posted February 20, 2011 I mean, you will surely notice an increase in image quality with the IPS, just not really a particularly "useful" one; color accuracy doesn't matter in a game as long as the colours are pleasing to the eye- IPS panels are really for photo/video editors. TBH the biggest difference you will notice that will actually help you with screens and gaming is response time and black level- that IPS panel is inferior in response time to most TN panels and its black level is unlikely to be better as the only lcd's that offer a sizeable improvement in that area are U-PVA panels, but they often have even worse response times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted February 20, 2011 (edited) I mean, you will surely notice an increase in image quality with the IPS, just not really a particularly "useful" one; color accuracy doesn't matter in a game as long as the colours are pleasing to the eye- IPS panels are really for photo/video editors. I wouldn't even go that far (although I agree with the rest of what you said), I actually preferred my old HP 2709s (TN) as far as gaming went but I do a lot of video/photo editing and this is an area where the IPS panel has a very clear advantage. If you want a gaming monitor, get a fast TN (Samsung and HP make very good ones) and use the saved money for a second video card, SSD or whatever. Edited February 21, 2011 by BangTail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lozz08 10 Posted February 21, 2011 missionmaximus, If I were you I would cancel that order and get myself a new 120hz monitor... Seriously... I'm urgently suggesting it. The samsung 2233rz is a very good choice, there is also a 24 inch lg that is nearly as good. These 120hz monitors are nearly up to CRT standard in terms of fast movement, and the samsung has unusually good black depth for a tn lcd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sweguy96 10 Posted February 21, 2011 (edited) I have a little question. I have a Nvidia GeForce 9500 1GB graphics card and a AMD Phenom 8650 Tripple Core 2,30 Ghz processor, and when I play Arma 2 CO at medium quality I get 10-15 FPS in the forrest and on the desert 25-30 FPS so my question is, what should I change? A more powerful processor or a new powerful Graphics card like 2Gb? Edited February 21, 2011 by sweguy96 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted February 21, 2011 GB doesn't say that much with videocards. Your cpu and gpu are both pretty slow, but if you have a very limited budget a gpu upgrade is probably the best. Look up your gpu here and compare. If you want decent performance the question is how much are you willing to spend? Btw, there's a chance your motherboard supports modern cpu's like the phenomII and athlonII, which would make an upgrade much cheaper. Look up your motherboards' page on the manufacturers site and find the cpu support list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lozz08 10 Posted February 21, 2011 If I were you, I would upgrade the cpu. Why? If you upgrade your GPU first, you will have better visual quality, but the same FPS, because it will still be limited by the cpu. If you get a new cpu, you can use low settings and get much better fps, but the same visual quality. I know which one I prefer. This argument becomes null if you can overclock that cpu, which you surely can get away with. So the best thing you could do is get that cpu to 3ghz at least, and then a gpu upgrade is definitely the best option. You're really not getting the best you can from that cpu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted February 21, 2011 even low settings are a challenge for that gpu, it's barely on minimum system requirements. sure, the cpu is really slow as well, if budget allows the best thing is upgrade both. Testing what's the bottleneck is pretty straightforward. Run the benchmark mission with and without anti-aliasing. If the one with is significantly slower your gpu is probably bottlenecking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cj 1 Posted February 22, 2011 im having a little trouble as of late with performance (seems to be better on Taki than Cherna) and im thinking of upgrading my rig with of budget of around £400 but im not overly sure on what i should upgrade for biggest perfomance. my specs are asus p5k-se (i think so anyway - either way not very good) intel core 2 duo e4400 (2.0ghz) nvidia 285gtx (dont think this will need changing) 2gb ram if anyone has any ideas i would really appreciate it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjph 0 Posted February 22, 2011 Hi Does anyone have any experience/advice on using the on-board ATI sound function on their GPUs ? Compared to something like Creative Audigy boards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted February 22, 2011 im having a little trouble as of late with performance (seems to be better on Taki than Cherna) and im thinking of upgrading my rig with of budget of around £400 but im not overly sure on what i should upgrade for biggest perfomance.my specs are asus p5k-se (i think so anyway - either way not very good) intel core 2 duo e4400 (2.0ghz) nvidia 285gtx (dont think this will need changing) 2gb ram if anyone has any ideas i would really appreciate it yeah, the gpu is quite fast compared to the cpu. I'd recommend an i5-2500K with a sli-capable 2x 8 Pci-e lanes (never know if you'll find a cheap secondhand 285) motherboard and 4 or 8GB ram. Ram is pretty cheap so even 8GB will probably fit within budget. The sandy bridge (socket 1155) motherboads have a little bug in the sata300 ports that made them wear out faster. The B3 stepping of the chipset doesn't have this problem, although it wasn't that much of a problem to begin with. If you want the stuff now I'd recommend the "bugged" sandy brige P67 boards with i5-2500K over anything phenomII, as it's much faster. You can just use the 2 (sometimes more) sata600 ports for your harddisks, optical drive doesnt use the sata port that much, it can go on 300. If you can wait for a B3 motherboard I'd do that. Might want to check out bulldozer (new amd cpu's) as well as it might be out when the B3 stepping motherboard will be sold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cj 1 Posted February 22, 2011 good lad ,thats given me a big insight into what i want to be lookin for. i have been considering the i5 for a while now and ive heard good things about the 2500k - is the i7 much better ? and could u do us a big favour and browse some mobos for me as i dont want to pick something incompatible and screw myself over ! i had a look at the p67 boards but theres a billion of them on overclockers.co.uk so im a bit wary over which would be best for the price. remember im on around £400 budget ,may even go to £500 if its worth it. looks like im goin to have to get a 64bit OS aswell now !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted February 22, 2011 does this link work? It should be a list with the sli-capable asus and gigabyte motherboards. I have mosty asus boards myself, never had real problems. Gigabyte has a good reputation as well. One advantage of asus is you have case fan control even on the less expensive boards. The Gigabyte UD4 for example doesn't have that, only cpu fan control. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cj 1 Posted February 22, 2011 (edited) brilliant stuff mate cheers for the effort. may get them on order come payday ! last couple of questions - whats a good make of ram, im thinkin of ordering 8gb worth. and will this rig require a decent cooling system or will the stocks do ? edit : ok maybe a cheeky 3rd aswel, will a 550w psu handle the new tech ? Edited February 22, 2011 by CJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted February 22, 2011 I'd just go with the kingston valueram 1333 8GB kit (2 dimms). That's the most common ram so no compatibility or availability issues. If you want to overclock (and 2500K clock very well) I'd get an aftermarket cooler (the intel cooler is tiny to save money), almost any will do since these chips dont need that much power, even on 4.2-ish Ghz. If you want to go for a heavy overclock, like 4.8Ghz or more something I suggest a more highend cooler like a mugen 2. And the psu is plenty. If you dont overclock too insanely your new setup will use less power than the old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hiikeri 10 Posted February 22, 2011 (edited) whats a good make of ram, im thinkin of ordering 8gb worth. Arma2 engine usable max memory is limited to 2Gb, so 4Gb Main memory > 8Gb doesnt give you a single frame more, or not a smoother gaming. 4Gb is enough, Max 2Gb for game (ever that size?) and 1-1.5Gb for Windows+backround programs. Arma2/OA uses only 850-900Mb Display Adapter memory at normal playing situations, even at Very High details + 1920x1080 resolution > 1Gb card is enough. SSD is one and great answer to get a smoother playing experience, even at slow fps. Buy a cheap, ~30Gb SSD and install Arma/OA that drive only. If you have Steam version, install games normally (C:\) and after that move your Arma2 + OA to the that drive (SSD) using SteamMover program. Edited February 22, 2011 by Hiikeri Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cj 1 Posted February 22, 2011 legends ,looks like ive got myself a decent rig on the setup ! When it comes thru ill make a reply showing the difference in fps and quality. Nice one for all the help lads ,nice to see theres still decent fellas in the community Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost Warrior 10 Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) Hello guys, im new to arma & i want to get the game but i dont know if my laptop (to be) can run it. Here are the specs: http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4240/sig1d.png > 100 kb Edited March 2, 2011 by W0lle Image > 100 kb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flattermann 12 Posted February 24, 2011 that laptop will run it very well. Can you get it with a numpad? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
