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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Black Op @ Feb. 27 2002,14:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">and speak english please damagve, gorgi<span id='postcolor'>

Ja, ich will Englisch sprechen smile.gif

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Damage Inc @ Feb. 27 2002,12:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Because Hollandisch is German smile.gif<span id='postcolor'>

Why should we germans want to conquer Holland???

There is no believable reason wink.gif

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Ich möchte einen Papageien essen.

Aber sie sind zu kostspielig.

So heute abend esse ich mein Kaninchen und.......

hey geht mein Hamster.

Ich trete auf ihn und esse ihn roh...

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"By the spring of 1972 the Vietnam War was at a low ebb. The 1968 Communist Tet Offensive had given way to a gradual winding down by mid-1969, and after the invasion of Cambodia in May 1970, there was little fighting in South Vietnam. Yet, while the United States was in the process of withdrawing it's forces from a war that was becoming increasingly unpopular with its citizens, the North Vietnamese were rebuilding their forces in preparation for another massive offensive in hopes of overrunning the southern half of the divided country. In April 1972, heavily armed North Vietnamese divisions crossed into the South at several points, including from out of Cambodia.

Beginning in late 1972, National Security Advisor Henry A. Kissinger's negotiations with North Vietnam began to move seriously towards a settlement. To build up the military of South Vietnam, Secretary of Defense Melvin R. Laird initiated Project Enhance Plus on 20 October 1972. The Pentagon ordered rush deliveries of some $2 billion worth of military equipment, including over 600 aircraft. The program gave South Vietnam the fourth largest air force in the world, with over 2,000 aircraft. Only the United States, the Soviet Union, and the Peoples' Republic of China maintained larger air forces. By this time South Vietnam also floated the fifth largest navy in the world (with 1,500 ships) and fielded the fourth largest army in the world (with 1.1 million troops).

Nixon resumed bombing of North Vietnam in response to the North Vietnamese 1972 Easter offensive, and mined North Vietnamese ports and bombed Hanoi and Haiphong in late 1972. Such pressure was intended, at least in part, to force North Vietnam to sign an armistice. In early 1973 the United States, North and South Vietnam, and the Viet Cong signed an armistice. American military activities in Cambodia and Laos, which had continued after the cease-fire in South Vietnam went into effect, ended in 1973 when Congress cut off funds.

During the early months of 1974, the North Vietnamese army advanced from the north and west on the southern capital. They soon surrounded Saigon with an ever-tightening perimeter. Saigon fell to the Communists on 29 April 1975. On the morning of April 30, 1975, the last Marine boarded a CH-46 helicopter atop the American Embassy in Saigon and took off eastward disappearing into the blue horizon. It was 21 years after the first advisors arrived in country and nearly three years after the last combat troops withdrew."

Sounds like they lost to me...

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Leute, wenn ihr weiter deutsch schreibt, schließt einer der Moderatoren bestimmt sofort wieder diesen Beitrag.

Ach, mein kleiner Deutschunterricht, waren das noch Zeiten...

*heul*

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Ahha, gaan we nederlands spreken zodat niemand ons verstaat biggrin.gif

Altijd leuk als ze smeken om te mogen weten wat we zeggen!

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DarkLight @ Feb. 27 2002,14:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ahha, gaan we nederlands spreken zodat niemand ons verstaat biggrin.gif

Altijd leuk als ze smeken om te mogen weten wat we zeggen!<span id='postcolor'>

Man versteht euch tounge.gif

Man versteht euch WIRKLICH biggrin.gif

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Feb. 27 2002,13:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"By the spring of 1972 the Vietnam War was at a low ebb. The 1968 Communist Tet Offensive had given way to a gradual winding down by mid-1969, and after the invasion of Cambodia in May 1970, there was little fighting in South Vietnam. Yet, while the United States was in the process of withdrawing it's forces from a war that was becoming increasingly unpopular with its citizens, the North Vietnamese were rebuilding their forces in preparation for another massive offensive in hopes of overrunning the southern half of the divided country. In April 1972, heavily armed North Vietnamese divisions crossed into the South at several points, including from out of Cambodia.

Beginning in late 1972, National Security Advisor Henry A. Kissinger's negotiations with North Vietnam began to move seriously towards a settlement. To build up the military of South Vietnam, Secretary of Defense Melvin R. Laird initiated Project Enhance Plus on 20 October 1972. The Pentagon ordered rush deliveries of some $2 billion worth of military equipment, including over 600 aircraft. The program gave South Vietnam the fourth largest air force in the world, with over 2,000 aircraft. Only the United States, the Soviet Union, and the Peoples' Republic of China maintained larger air forces. By this time South Vietnam also floated the fifth largest navy in the world (with 1,500 ships) and fielded the fourth largest army in the world (with 1.1 million troops).

Nixon resumed bombing of North Vietnam in response to the North Vietnamese 1972 Easter offensive, and mined North Vietnamese ports and bombed Hanoi and Haiphong in late 1972. Such pressure was intended, at least in part, to force North Vietnam to sign an armistice. In early 1973 the United States, North and South Vietnam, and the Viet Cong signed an armistice. American military activities in Cambodia and Laos, which had continued after the cease-fire in South Vietnam went into effect, ended in 1973 when Congress cut off funds.

During the early months of 1974, the North Vietnamese army advanced from the north and west on the southern capital. They soon surrounded Saigon with an ever-tightening perimeter. Saigon fell to the Communists on 29 April 1975. On the morning of April 30, 1975, the last Marine boarded a CH-46 helicopter atop the American Embassy in Saigon and took off eastward disappearing into the blue horizon. It was 21 years after the first advisors arrived in country and nearly three years after the last combat troops withdrew."

Sounds like they lost to me...<span id='postcolor'>

sounds like the south vietnamese lost to me, as i already said the US had started pulling out in 1970, and left it to the south vietnamese.

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FFS can u please use private messenger, this is a thread about US not losing a war, NOT "lets try impress everyone with my language skills"

its hard trying to discuss things, i only just saw longinus's post long after he posted it cos the topic had been spammed onto the next page mad.gif

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"sounds like the south vietnamese lost to me, as i already said the US had started pulling out in 1970, and left it to the south vietnamese."

That does not mean they did not lose.

1. Did they achieve the goals they set out to do? I dont think so.

2. Did they have any other option than to pull out? No.

3. Would they have pulled out even if they did not sign a peace treaty? Probably.

4. Who gained most from that treaty? North Vietnam ofcourse.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Feb. 27 2002,13:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"sounds like the south vietnamese lost to me, as i already said the US had started pulling out in 1970, and left it to the south vietnamese."

That does not mean they did not lose.

1. Did they achieve the goals they set out to do? I dont think so.

2. Did they have any other option than to pull out? No.

3. Would they have pulled out even if they did not sign a peace treaty? Probably.

4. Who gained most from that treaty? North Vietnam ofcourse.<span id='postcolor'>

I cant argue against those biggrin.gif

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DarkLight @ Feb. 27 2002,14:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ahha, gaan we nederlands spreken zodat niemand ons verstaat biggrin.gif

Altijd leuk als ze smeken om te mogen weten wat we zeggen!<span id='postcolor'>

Ja, behalve als ze een vertaalprogramma gaan gebruiken. Ik gebruik dat namelijk ook als ik iets niet kan lezen biggrin.gif

Leuk man dat spammen. Ik geloof alleen dat "zwarte op" het niet waardeert sad.gif

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hé bande de cons , vous pouver arréter de baragouiner vorte putain de language de mort , ça commence ŕ faire chier , alors maintenant vous utilisez les messages privés et vous nous foutez la paix , compris ?

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