GTX8800 Problems Solved yet?

[harddisk_ripper 0]

Can a game actually ruin your GPU

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Edit: Got it all working evetually. But after playing the game for about 20-30 min. I encounterd what some

discribes as grey beams coming from the center of the screen. I quickly Alt+TAB`ed to check the GPU temp wich was

77 degrees c. Alt+TAB`ed back to the game, hitting resume and was greeted by a rather quick BSOD and a automatic reboot of the computer.

No, not really... It is NOT TRUE what Gaffa stated in his posts above.

The game has lots of bugs and it doesn't like alt-tabing very much!

77°C is a very good load temperature for a gtx ;-)

greets

[W0lle 1050]

The game has lots of bugs and it doesn't like alt-tabing very much!

That is not true, it seems more that it depends on Hardware/OS/other things.

When I edit missions I alt-tab more then a dozen of time per hour (maybe even per 10mins) between ArmA and various Applications and never had a CTD or any strange behaviour because of alt-tabing. Not even with the mother of all buggy versions (v1.0)

[boomboomer 0]

That is not true, it seems more that it depends on Hardware/OS/other things.

Out of curiosity W0lle were you alt-tabbing with a 8800 card in your rig, or did you have something else fitted?

With my previous 6600 card I could run background tasks and alt-tab without any problems. As soon as I fitted a 8800 card ArmA became unstable and only the maxmem, starting a clean boot and no alt-tabbing has restored things to useable.

Otherwise I could guarantee a CTD within 1/2 hour.

I'd agree that it's not ArmA causing the problem on it's own - the 8800 drivers still have a long way to go, but I've not heard of other games having quite so many issues with DX10 cards.

Roll on 1.09 - perhaps it's all that fog causing the crashes!

[[aps]gnat 28]

Think its very much driver version driven if Alt-Tab'in causes a crash or not.

With the older drivers I could be sure that after about 10 Alt-Tabs (I mission edit etc) ArmA would crash.

Now its rare to have an Alt-Tab crash.

Driver 17-9-07: 6.14.11.6371

But it still does do a very fast BSOD reset from time-to-time even when no Alt-Tab'ins been done.

[kklownboy 43]

i believe turning "extensions" off in your CP can help. This is for Nvidia.

[-Puma- 2]

Nvidia cards has been running with those temps for ages. nothing unusal about that. if the card reaches 87-90C then it might be overheating. but yes it's wise to, just to be safe, to keep em cooler than 80C.

Mate your wrong lol...

Search the more technical sites, you will see that if you have a 8800GTX with a fan cooler, you should be aiming from around 50-70c (in-game), Any higher is considered to be overheating and may end up damaging your card. If on the other hand your 8800GTX is water cooled, you should be aiming for around... 40-50c (in-game).

By all means you can carry on running your card at temps of 85-90c, but i can guaranty you it wont last long.

I paid £400+ for my card, and theirs no way shape or form I'm going to let it fry! lol... That's why I did as much research on this matter as possible.

About the Nvidia drivers... They always have the fan settings on auto what ever the driver (from what I've seen anyway.)

I suggest you all register on Guru3d's forums and ask these questions their. I'm sure you will get the same answers I'm giving you.

There's plenty more sites with information discussing the 8800GTX, its just a matter of searching and being patent until you find what your looking for.

its allmost impossible to keep the card at 50-70C at full load

[boomboomer 0]

its allmost impossible to keep the card at 50-70C at full load

I found by blocking the exhaust vents inside the case (so most of the hot air is blown outside) and pointing a ducted fan from the front of the case right at the intake of the card I can keep mine down to 'only' 68 deg. at full load.

The blower cover seems designed to recirculate the hot air around the bottom of your case so the card ingests it's own exhaust. I saw the tip on a Guru.com review to block the vents (with a post-it note and tape in my case) and it dropped the card temp by 15 deg.

The card still reports the ambient temp as 48 deg. which is rubbish but I guess the ambient temperature sensor must be fairly close to the heatsink.

[andy667 0]

I'd agree that it's not ArmA causing the problem on it's own - the 8800 drivers still have a long way to go, but I've not heard of other games having quite so many issues with DX10 cards.

Roll on 1.09 - perhaps it's all that fog causing the crashes!

I wouldn't count on that.

I mean, if they will fix something, it will be just cosmetics, not a general failure problem.

WHY ? PROBABLY most IF NOT EVERYONE are involved in ARMA2 project. Becasue ARMA has already earn some amount of money, now there is no need to fix this and that.

It would be much more polite to inform everyone with directx10 (if this is real problem - i'am quessing) "8800 card - owner , please wait a moment or two, if you want to play ARMA on your *new* PC, it is ok, but wait 6 months and BUY ARMA2, which is acctually designed ...bla bla bla .... for direct X 10.0. and more,. sory for inconvinience " .

I HOPE IAM WRONG, but if not,... Bohemia, don;t count on me on arma2, i bought OFP/ARMA/ARMA addon (forgot the name), and because of lack of sevice on my 8800GTproblem, i will not suport You anymore.

I have no support from you, you will not have support from me, this is so simple.

About other games, mentioned ALT+TAB problem ocured twice , once on CIV4 Broken the sword, and once on Call of duty 4, ALL ORYGINAL copy.

Nvidia drivers 169.09 beta.

I can accept that problems comes from nvidia drivers, BUT WHY noone put any information : "YES we are working on that 8800 isue, it seems it is nvidia driver problem, but we will fix that ) take a look here (don't read, it is in polish, but see minidumump analyst) http://andy667.blogspot.com . From my point of view it shows exactly that nvidia is causing problem, BUT acctually in ARMA, so .... can i count that 1.09 will fix that ?

One more thing,

My first play in ARMA on my superduper new 8800GT monster of course network multiplayer game, and i choose to be a pilot, than i start Blackhawk and wait for other soldiers:), when black hawk was full of people:) i start it up, than slowly start to speed it up AND just over the last building on the airfield, ..... ARMA crashed to desktop, I WAS TOTALLY ANGRY, but when it came to me what other people in blackhawk felt, ... LOL i feel a little better but still it sux.

Regards to all, esspecially all that Brothers in Arms with 8800

Andy

[apex 0]

I also had CTD problem like Flasher444(link) with my 8800GT. Using the "-maxmem 512"

switch and 169.02 drivers fixed the problem by 100%.

Fog is still there but this needs to be resolved by nvidia so everybody should report it to nvidia!

[andy667 0]

Maxmem 512 did not help for CTD, but it is loading longer, much longer, at least with 169.09, BUT i'll try to change drivers to 169.02 first, and than will try that -512 option.

I will share my expirience, but probably at the end of the week.

Thx,

Andy

[boomboomer 0]

I can accept that problems comes from nvidia drivers, BUT WHY noone put any information : "YES we are working on that 8800 isue, it seems it is nvidia driver problem, but we will fix that )  take  a look here (don't read, it is in polish, but see minidumump analyst)   http://andy667.blogspot.com . From my point of view it shows exactly that nvidia is causing problem, BUT acctually   in ARMA, so .... can i count that 1.09 will fix that ?

To be fair to Bohemia the 8800 problem is a huge one, the DX10 cards are a big step away from the DX9 ones and Nvidia have really slipped up with the driver but, again to be fair to Nvidia, having Vista dumped on them and trying to write drivers for two completely different OS's has probably made them drop the ball.

With all prevous new GPU's Nvida had given continual support and fixed most serious bug's within 6 months? Trying to do two OS's at the same time must be crippling.

I still consider most BSOD crashes in ArmA are down to the drivers for 8800 cards, the program was rock steady with my previous 6600 card and since the 8800 went in it's only driver updates that have cured the 'major' problems (although the maxmem & not alt-tabbing did the rest). The finer isses; fog and shader corruption etc. will probably have to be fixed by Bohemia as I guess they didn't follow the DX9 tables to the letter but used what worked for them previously?

[kklownboy 43]

well the first gen of 88xx and 86xx cards have the wacky mem amounts , 720,640, 320... and is the real issue with games NOT developed with them. You will find that the new 8xxx cards will be 256, 512..... they; NVDA gave up.

[-Puma- 2]

its allmost impossible to keep the card at 50-70C at full load

I found by blocking the exhaust vents inside the case (so most of the hot air is blown outside) and pointing a ducted fan from the front of the case right at the intake of the card I can keep mine down to 'only' 68 deg. at full load.

The blower cover seems designed to recirculate the hot air around the bottom of your case so the card ingests it's own exhaust. I saw the tip on a Guru.com review to block the vents (with a post-it note and tape in my case) and it dropped the card temp by 15 deg.

The card still reports the ambient temp as 48 deg. which is rubbish but I guess the ambient temperature sensor must be fairly close to the heatsink.

yeah fresh arir into the fan helps to cool the beats down. i have nexus cateripllar case so everything is upside down. i found out that after removing the cover from pci slots it allowed the cooler to get some cool air and temps dropped about 15C allso. now my card

gets at 75C at full load and im happy with that.