canis lupus 20 Posted February 1, 2008 it was testet in a 40 vs. 40 battle... but anyway the boots don't have the same attachment system as the rest it seems because the lacers can't get 100% stuck on them, some movements will cause them to hang arround in the air... so the boots will be changed again... maybe just some lower poly bumbs or something.... the lacers on the smock coat will stay they look really good ingame, however they can without any problems be edited down to have half the polycount and you won't tell the difference it was kind of silly to make a high poly version of something that small... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MehMan 0 Posted February 1, 2008 That's a problem with anything you add like that, you'd have to increase the weight a lot, but that would mean a fair bit of deformations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benoist 0 Posted February 1, 2008 Kris @ Feb. 01 2008,08:23)]You are going to do Bastogne or not for now? For now we are sticking with Normandy but we will get to Bastogne . We are going to be doing the Mod in Phases kind of like the series (Normandy, Market Garden, Bastogne). Hope that has answered your question. New Member of the team: Wiggles - 3d Artist Well, that was the point. I prefer that you make one phase by one (and if it's possible a release of that one) and not the WHOLE Series. The ETA would be 2010. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma85 2 Posted February 2, 2008 I'm pretty sure that's what has just been explained,Twice. The mod will be produced and released in Phases. phase one covering the episodes: Currahee Day of Days Carentan, phase two should consist of: Replacements Crossroads phase three will consist of: Bastonge The Breaking Point The Last Patrol phase four Why we fight Points more missions will be included to bulk out the campaigns hopes this clears things up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-AIF- Kris 0 Posted February 2, 2008 2 New Members Wiggles And Doc1236 Update Team: Members are: Kris - Mod Founder - Mission Maker TankCommander - 3d Artist BOSS - 2d Artist Kristian - 3d Artist Enigma - 2d Artist Guy - 3d Artist Mark82101 - Mission maker - Scripter agamoth - 3rd Artist Jari - 3rd Artist Rebus - Researcher - Historical advisor ATST Walker - (Collaborating operation WW2)3d Artist - Configs Wiggles - 3d Artist Doc1236 - 3d Artist Kris. Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
belgerot 33 Posted February 2, 2008 Decent job on the smock portion so far, especially for an early WIP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canis lupus 20 Posted February 2, 2008 webbings almost done still needs some tweaking here and there but it's basicly done, next step is to put everything back on the model in the most correct way possible... any links to referance pictures of german soliders would be welcome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
belgerot 33 Posted February 3, 2008 Sorry if I seem rude, but you need to re-examine the harness. The portion where the utility straps hang from is much higher on the torso, in the high chest region. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma85 2 Posted February 3, 2008 thanks for the information. we have been abit dry of decent reference pics later but hopefully we'll find some soon. still some tweaking to do so i'm sure agamoth with sort this out in no time. EDIT a few screens taken in game on Rommels Render map. screenshot are taken with placeholder texture at the minute. also pictured with Vilas Weapons whilst ours are in development. American 82nd German SS American AT And Finally Wounded Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canis lupus 20 Posted February 3, 2008 sure I will... but just to be sure here is it the part of the front harness where it splits into two that needs to be higher, I got some pictures that might indicate that but they are very poor... thanks for letting me know Belgerot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
belgerot 33 Posted February 3, 2008 http://aboutww2militaria.com/December2007/y_straps.html That page has some decent pictures of one. It's well worn and aged, but you can still tell which were the natural (brown) leather portions (adjusting strap in the rear portion, as well as where the front straps attach to the o-ring and the underside) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canis lupus 20 Posted February 3, 2008 nice picture of it... so as far as I can tell from it the split part need to be moved up quite a bit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MehMan 0 Posted February 3, 2008 Here's a nice site too: http://www.mp44.nl/equipment/y_belt.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canis lupus 20 Posted February 3, 2008 thanks MehMan thats more clear, I can see how it should look now update comming up... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benoist 0 Posted February 3, 2008 Now it's looking really nice. But, how the hell did you make the wounded thing? SLX? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kristian 47 Posted February 3, 2008 ok, so not many (or nobody) liked the prewious 101st WIP, so I reworked alot things, I hope you like it more now. --------------- " target="_blank">http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/2078/usww21co3.png[/img]</a> ----------- Kristian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Faulkner 0 Posted February 3, 2008 Sorry if I seem rude, but you need to re-examine the harness. The portion where the utility straps hang from is much higher on the torso, in the high chest region. Yes. They've also made a mistake by attaching the auxiliary straps to the belt. In reality, one strap on each side attached to either the M1911 rifle cartridge pouches (or a set of supplementary D-rings on the belt - when pouches were not worn), while the other auxiliary strap (Hilfstrageriem) hung loose. The auxiliary straps were intended for attaching to hooks on the M1939 pack, to some models of rucksack and the M1939 combat pack frame. Beware of using that photo posted earlier as a reference. By 1944 it was far more common for the belt support straps to be field green webbing and not leather. Edit: Your U.S. Army paratrooper appears to be wearing his smock buttoned on the girls' side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Igor101AD 0 Posted February 3, 2008 This render pics are really good, SS troops look great so far, but (I know that is easy to say ) ain't US paratroopers got textures in lower resolution than SS? They look fine too, but they look a lil' bit poor, you know? Haha, but they still rocks . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Faulkner 0 Posted February 3, 2008 Reference my last post. Here is a possibly useful illustration of late war German infantry equipment. This is a typical equipment carried by someone armed with the Gew.43 (Gew. 43 magazine pouches on the left worn with M1911 pouches for loose rounds, etc, on the right). A black leather waist belt could also be used with the webbing belt support straps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MehMan 0 Posted February 3, 2008 @Kristian: no need to actually model the jacket flap. Much much easier to texture it and use normal maps. The result in the end is also better because right now you have a sharp edge that's being lighted and it will look like a knifes edge, while with a normal map it'll look much softer and in the end better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma85 2 Posted February 3, 2008 @Benoist Yes Band Of Brothers Mod is lucky enough to be running on an SLX modified Arma and will be implemented with the mod for public release. @Col. Faulkner Thanks For the info we will look into that make the needed adjustments. the utility belt has been edited already from what i am understand just not pictured. @Igor101AD Yes the Us Para's are using a lower res uniform at the minute. all uniform helmet textures are placeholders at the minute and will be updated in the future (before release) any textures that have been applied at the minute at purely for progress ingame shots. Thanks to everyone for the interest,helpful information and support. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kristian 47 Posted February 3, 2008 @Kristian: no need to actually model the jacket flap. Much much easier to texture it and use normal maps. The result in the end is also better because right now you have a sharp edge that's being lighted and it will look like a knifes edge, while with a normal map it'll look much softer and in the end better. Thanks for that, Fixing it for next update.. probably Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canis lupus 20 Posted February 3, 2008 this is pretty much it, there will be two versions of the ss so far, heavy and light smock the webbing issue will be fixed with normal mapping or else it will become even more complicated... they have a pretty high polycount but so far there has been no performance issues but I have low poly backups of the units if there should be problems we can make two version with high and low polycounts. thanks for that picture Col. Faulkner I needed one with the "launchbox" thing on it. about those straps, can't really tell how much more I will do with them unless it can be done without changing them much Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benoist 0 Posted February 3, 2008 Quote[/b] ]@BenoistYes Band Of Brothers Mod is lucky enough to be running on an SLX modified Arma and will be implemented with the mod for public release. Yay! One of the best news! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Faulkner 0 Posted February 4, 2008 ok, so not many (or nobody) liked the prewious 101st WIP, so I reworked alot things, I hope you like it more now. Kristian I assume you do realise that the waist belt on that model is far too low down. As a rule of thumb, a man's belt line is usually approximately two head-heights down from the line of his shoulders. Your German infantryman seems to suffer from the same problem, to a lesser extent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites