Patch 1.08 doesn't boot thread

[sickboy 13]

Copy protection is enforced by Bohemia.Atari didn't have time to test Bohemia published 1.08 patch and they released it on their site without any messing around.So it's clear that Bohemia published patches not publisher so don't make us all fools.

Bohemia lovers Sickboy and Chris Death should avoid posting in this thread.

Copy protection is afaik enforced by the Publishers. If you really have to, and I'm bored at some point, I would even drop you the link to that info.

BIS Publishing a patch does not say that the Publishers aren't the ones that tell the developpers which copy protections to put on.

I'm not making you fools, but you make urself look like a fool with your reasoning.

Bohemia Lovers, it's better than fanboi but still incorrect.

It's a pitty that when ones reasoning can't hack it, one must resort to simple name-calling...

Instead of being this idiot customer trying to kick dirt all the time I try to search for solutions and create my own if I have to.

I don't point fingers at everyone else and I take responsebility for my own machine and own will and need to play.

I don't demand, I ask. I don't order, I request.

Also, I acknowledge the "Click, Nothing happens" problem.

There is just no need to tell anyone to go back to the shop because of the 7001 error, simple as that.

If that all makes me a Bohemia Loving Fanboy, then so be it.

[Maddog011 0]

Don't call me idiot customer because I call Bohemia for responsibility.I know you love them so much but don't make me Sick you Boy.

[sickboy 13]

Don't call me idiot customer because I call Bohemia for responsibility.I know you love them so much but don't make me Sick you Boy.

Please show me where I refer to you as the idiot customer?

I make an example on my philosophy, nowhere I am flaming you...

Anyway, it really does seem that i'm speaking on the wrong level here, I am outta here, now don't forget to celebrate your 'victory'

[jdski 0]

... Last time I checked, the 7001 error is ALWAYS fixable. At the moment the only thing i can do is to thank you for your patience!

I'm all ears. He tried going through the regisrty and looking for duplicates to delete as instructed, but there were none. Was there another solution your aware of?

I'd like to see him get the game working, but after talking him into buying the game, I feel partially to blame.  I'm lucky to convince him to play anything at all because of his time restrictions, and then when I convince him to buy a game and then he has to spend hours trying to get it to work and risk screwing up his system, it's not good.

So yea, I myself might be able to put more effort into fixing the game or waiting for a fix, but not all others have the time. So that's why I suggested trading it for one that works out of the box like it should so he can spend his limited gaming time playing instead of fixing.

[sickboy 13]

I'm all ears. He tried going through the regisrty and looking for duplicates to delete as instructed, but there were none. Was there another solution your aware of?

I'd like to see him get the game working, but after talking him into buying the game, I feel partially to blame. I'm lucky to convince him to play anything at all because of his time restrictions, and then when I convince him to buy a game and then he has to spend hours trying to get it to work and risk screwing up his system, it's not good.

So yea, I myself might be able to put more effort into fixing the game or waiting for a fix, but not all others have the time. So that's why I suggested trading it for one that works out of the box like it should so he can spend his limited gaming time playing instead of fixing.

Heya, Altough I promised to get out of this thread I do feel the need to help you:

http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin....t=64104

Another guy that also didn't have any duplicates:

Quote[/b] ]Just deleting all the "\??\Volume" ones did the trick for me. I had no duplicates for any of the assigned drive letters so I left those alone.

WinMCE, 505 Games release, fresh install from 1.04 -> 1.05 -> 1.08.

I agree on your behalf that the Copy Protection is the Publishers or Bohemia's responsebility and they could be somewhat more clear or helpful. On the otherhand, from a business point of view, it's a product of the SecureRom protection, which puts the support-part in their courtyard of course.

[Maddog011 0]

I don't want to insult you Sickboy, I like your postings,I admire your work,I consider your opinion but it's just not the right time for it.

It's time for fix.I can't play game for a week now.

Victory will be achieved when all of us can play normally without this hassle.

So please constructive solutions are welcomed without this this sh.t about developer publisher relations.

The patch itself is made by Bohemia and none else.They should fix it.I'm just to tired messing with my windows,

I don't want to reinstall it,everything is fine with it and all software runs fine.My hardware is fine so please make ARMA run too.

[sickboy 13]

I don't want to insult you Sickboy, I like your postings,I admire your work,I consider your opinion but it's just not the right time for it.

It's time for fix.I can't play game for a week now.

Victory will be achieved when all of use can play normally without this hassle.

So please constructive solutions are welcomed without this this sh.t about developer publisher relations.

The patch itself is made by Bohemia and none else.They should fix it.I'm just to tired messing with my windows,I don't want to reinstall it,everything is fine with it.My hardware is fine so please make ARMA fine too.

Thanks for this post mate.

My earlier rant about "Unnececairy to bring game back to shop for the 7001 error" etc. etc. wasn't about you anyway.

Also not the part where a guy compares a car to a computer game

I also wrote that I agreed that BI could be more forthcoming, especially in the "Click, nothing happens" problems.

Please in the future don't drag someone that replies to others and in no way really related to your issues, out for a barfight. All I tried to do is try to show what people claim or are saying is in some cases rediculous

Really I agree with you that the Nothing Happens boot problem requires more attention from BI, at the very least some more official info

[maddogx 13]

The whole point of implementing a system like SecuRom is so that the developers don't have to worry about writing it themselves. It's called outsourcing.

Obviously it's bad for a developer when an outsourced component causes problems for their customers, but the fault doesn't lie with BIS here. It's primarily SecuRom for causing the problem, and also with ATARI since BIS does not decide on which copy protection is used and therefore have almost no power over it.

All BIS can do is write to ATARI saying "Hey guys, that copy protection system you put in there is causing problems!". Then ATARI writes to SecuRom saying "Dudes your software is f***ing us over! Do something about it!".

As you can see from quotes in previous posts, SecuRom has acknowledged the problem and are working on it. There's nothing more anyone can do, so there is really no point in arguing here or complaining about "wasting money" on a game you can't play. So, just try the manual registry fix if you can, wait for a hotfix or bring the game back to the store if you feel like it. Everything else is pointless, unless you've found some magical fix for the problem or have recieved word from SecuRom.

BY THE WAY: This post is aimed at no one in particular. Just a general comment.

[sickboy 13]

Nice Points MadDog but I need to correct one point, which is wrong AFAIK:

"Hey guys, that copy protection system you put in there is causing problems!"

AFAIK, it is BIS that does the implementation of the Copy Protection (would be a bit weird that the Publishers would have the source of the game and the knowledge to implement it). AFAIK Publisher decides *WHICH* copy protection should be on their Disc, while the Developer implements the Copy Protection.

Still keeps the responsebility from business pov at the Publisher and Creator of the Copy Protection.

Though I can understand very well that from the customer pov, it is the Developper that created the game.. Altough thats true I think the mis interpretation is that ppl think that they buy the game from the Developper, while infact they buy the game from the Publisher

[maddogx 13]

Nice Points MadDog but I need to correct one point, which is wrong AFAIK:

"Hey guys, that copy protection system you put in there is causing problems!"

AFAIK, it is BIS that does the implementation of the Copy Protection (would be a bit weird that the Publishers would have the source of the game and the knowledge to implement it). AFAIK Publisher decides *WHICH* copy protection should be on their Disc, while the Developer implements the Copy Protection.

Still keeps the responsebility from business pov at the Publisher and Creator of the Copy Protection.

Though I can understand very well that from the customer pov, it is the Developper that created the game.. Altough thats true I think the mis interpretation is that ppl think that they buy the game from the Developper, while infact they buy the game from the Publisher

Quite correct. The sentence should have been "Hey guys, that copy protection system you made us put in there is causing problems!".

[Maddog011 0]

The whole point of implementing a system like SecuRom is so that the developers don't have to worry about writing it themselves. It's called outsourcing.

Obviously it's bad for a developer when an outsourced component causes problems for their customers, but the fault doesn't lie with BIS here. It's primarily SecuRom for causing the problem, and also with ATARI since BIS does not decide on which copy protection is used and therefore have almost no power over it.

All BIS can do is write to ATARI saying "Hey guys, that copy protection system you put in there is causing problems!". Then ATARI writes to SecuRom saying "Dudes your software is f***ing us over! Do something about it!".

As you can see from quotes in previous posts, SecuRom has acknowledged the problem and are working on it. There's nothing more anyone can do, so there is really no point in arguing here or complaining about "wasting money" on a game you can't play. So, just try the manual registry fix if you can, wait for a hotfix or bring the game back to the store if you feel like it. Everything else is pointless, unless you've found some magical fix for the problem or have recieved word from SecuRom.

BY THE WAY: This post is aimed at no one in particular. Just a general comment.

Well the problem itself is that most of us don't wanna get it back to shop,we want to play it now.Also we don't want this happen again in the future with version 1.09 etc.

Why would we be scared of patching?Because securom did their job bad or dev&pub does not give us real support.

Only support we got is from users community that I appreciate much.

@Sickboy

Thanks buddy.

[Kevlar2007 1]

HOw is it a secure rom issue if I am using the Download version and have the same problem?

I wish this thread had came out when I was researching this POS game, I would have never bought it.

I loved OFP.,.....IT WORKED.

[BMARTINS 0]

For those who did not understood.

1st I Installed a new system in a new hard drive.

2nd Installed ASUS NVIDIA drivers and Chipset nforce4.

Installed Arma 505 dvd 1.04 -> 1.05 -> 1.08

and didn't boot.

Restored System via System restore to clean install...

Installed Arma 505 dvd 1.04 -> 1.05 -> 1.08

Without drivers... And it worked...

Installed drivers and it work again...

Fought that maybe those drivers would do the same job in my "old" 160gb Sata2 hardrive.

And it didn't work.

I had then the new hard drive as sata secondary drive...

When I intended to use only the new disk the game was not running again.

Why is there always some one to flame the one who tried to help others?

Explaining the problems they had the solutions they might have.

As I said I tried all the "mambo jambo" and Have no solution to the problem and will wait for a solution from securerom.

I ask to those who have nothing to say to just keep reading instead of flaming this post as I will do forward sinceI cannot help in other way.

P.s- My English is surely better then most of many English's Portuguese.

[sickboy 13]

HOw is it a secure rom issue if I am using the Download version and have the same problem?

I wish this thread had came out when I was researching this POS game, I would have never bought it.

I loved OFP.,.....IT WORKED.

Let's agree that ArmA at some point should start working too So It's not an excuse to not like ArmA :PP

But anyway...

A download version can get the problem in 2 cases:

1) at patch time, you choose for dvd version and not download version --> Gives you the exe file of the dvd version --> problem

2) the download version is messed up, like the ArmA_Server.exe seems to be.. On one of my servers I can get a securom look-alike error under a certain condition... Nearly sounds as if the ArmA_Server and as such possibly even the download versions have a problem with some securerom code being inside or somesorts.. I haven't really bothered to really look into it though.

If the problems continue I will try to simulate the problems one of my machines, checking if I can find a solution for yah.

Interesting to read btw about not installing chipset/video drivers and then it worked...

I would say it has something to do with the IDE drivers of the chipset... if only I had the problem myself and could bite my teeth in it...

[hpsfface 0]

It doesn't matter who's fault it is. In the end, it is BI's problem because it is their next game I won't buy if things aren't corrected. I'm sure as hell not buying an expansion to an unplayable game....

'Click shortcut, nothing happens' is pretty bad but what is worse is no official word about it. This is insult to injury after having to tweak the hell out of my system just to run the game to start with AND having to turn settings way down on a very high-end system so I can play on a MP server without crashing every fifteen minutes.

I played the HELL out of OFP and then played the battlefield series for a while and always wished EA did things the way BI used to. Sad that I would rather be dealing with EA right about now as at least they would communicate while they were fucking their games up.

I haven't been able to play for over a week now also after a fresh install of both XP and Vista and I'm about ready to just call it quits w/ Arma altogether.

[Kevlar2007 1]

I got the ATARI version of the download version, the patch is for "BOTH" download and DVD versions...check it out. There is no "you choose which you have" moment.

Problem signature:

Problem Event Name: APPCRASH

Application Name: arma.exe

Application Version: 1.8.0.5163

Application Timestamp: 46644f0c

Fault Module Name: kernel32.dll

Fault Module Version: 6.0.6000.16386

Fault Module Timestamp: 4549be94

Exception Code: c06d007e

Exception Offset: 00023843

OS Version: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.256.1

Locale ID: 1033

Additional Information 1: de40

Additional Information 2: 576bead5053db3239901006f3f5e73d0

Additional Information 3: 75c3

Additional Information 4: a3a0da26ed2a5e755a8ce93cc48cc826

Read our privacy statement:

http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=50163&clcid=0x0409

P.S. I PROBABLY HAVE 15 DIFFERENT TYPES OF GAMES MADE IN THE LAST 2 YEARS ON MY MACHINE, NONE HAVE THIS PROBLEM BUT ARMA

Yes, everything I have is updated.

Vista 64 Bit

8800GTS 320

AMD FX-57

X-Fi Sound Card

4 GIG Memory

Raptor HD's X 2

1920x1200 Widescreen Gateway

[sickboy 13]

@Kevlar; welcome to Vista, the unsupported OS by Bohemia Interactive, at this time

Anyway, if all ur drivers are up2date (www.guru3d.com for instance) and your game is allowd in all firewall applications and bla bla bla, then I have no idea

I do not know if the question about DVD or Download version is available in the Atari version, but the German aswell as the Czech ones sure as hell do ask when you initiate the patching, if you have a download version or a dvd version.

About ur 15 games on ur PC; Every game can use different features, different components, in a different way.

ArmA's boot up problems atm seem to be related to the protection at this time... I bet none of ur 15 installed games has the latest SecuRom version inside them now do they

[BF2_Trooper 0]

I ask to those who have nothing to say to just keep reading instead of flaming this post as I will do forward sinceI cannot help in other way.

P.s- My English is surely better then most of many English's  Portuguese.

Problem is (for those of us who have the problem) that if we don't say anything, this discussion will eventually be pushed back several pages and the devs are'nt going to pay attention anymore.  But if we do keep complaining just to keep this thread alive, they'll probably lock it just like they did to my Securom bug related thread.  Sigh : (

[Totala 0]

Update : SecuRom sent me a link to download a new ArmA.exe. Guess what ??

No change, the DVD spins for 5 seconds, and that's it

Just sent a new Log file, at least I get a reply within 24 hours

[BF2_Trooper 0]

Update : SecuRom sent me a link to download a new ArmA.exe. Guess what ??

No change, the DVD spins for 5 seconds, and that's it  

Just sent a new Log file, at least I get a reply within 24 hours  

Please keep us up to date with this, as many of us have given up on Securom.

[jdski 0]

Update : SecuRom sent me a link to download a new ArmA.exe. Guess what ??

No change, the DVD spins for 5 seconds, and that's it  

Just sent a new Log file, at least I get a reply within 24 hours  

Would you be able to share the link? Maybe it will work with the 7001 securom error message issue?

[Totala 0]

I will ask the guy from SecuRom if I can post the link here, however, I am not willing to download some illegal stuff to play ArmA, thus I will push SecuRom as far as possible ...

Quote[/b] ] Hello,

Thank you for your e-mail. We will need to again consult our programers about your case. We will come back to you as soon as possible.

We appreciate your patience and hope to have a resolution soon.

If both SecuRom and BIS do not find a appropriate solution to this issue, I will, on the other hand, start to complain heavily on various gaming / harware forums.

There is indeed no better way to promote illegal copies of games

Has BIS said a single and official word about this latest burning issue with patch 1.08 ??

[BF2_Trooper 0]

I will ask the guy from SecuRom if I can post the link here, however, I am not willing to download some illegal stuff to play ArmA, thus I will push SecuRom as far as possible ...

Quote[/b] ] Hello,

Thank you for your e-mail. We will need to again consult our programers about your case. We will come back to you as soon as possible.

We appreciate your patience and hope to have a resolution soon.

If both SecuRom and BIS do not find a appropriate solution to this issue, I will, on the other hand, start to complain heavily on various gaming / harware forums.

There is indeed no better way to promote illegal copies of games

Has BIS said a single and official word about this latest burning issue with patch 1.08 ??

Well I PMed Maurk about the 7001 bug and all he says is that it's up to Securom to solve the problem. Also, if you're going to discuss this problem on other website I suggest you put the blame towards Securom more since there are other games affected by the 7001 bug such as Command & Conquer 3.

[Dogtags 0]

So, just try the manual registry fix if you can, wait for a hotfix or bring the game back to the store if you feel like it.

Tried the registry fix, tried a brand new HD etc etc etc etc.

Cannot return software in Australia it is generally not allowed as they think you pirated the game, made it faulty and returned it or something like that. If I could return it I would believe me.

I'll have to wait it out or sell it on ebay I guess if they don't fix it soon, now there's an idea.

Don't get me wrong I think the game has huge potential as I much prefer this type of game to BF2, I like the simulator aspect but ever since its release I have had one issue after another and after finally getting the game balanced in 105 beta it now does not work at all so my frustrations have just boiled over.

[BMARTINS 0]

"

Greetings.

Thank you for your email. Please rename your original <ARMA.exe> (located in the folder E:/JOGOS/ARMED ASSAULT) to <ARMA.old>. Then, click on the link below or copy and paste it into your web browser. This will open a blank webpage and a File Download window. From the File Download window click Open, extract the new <ARMA.exe> into the original's folder and re-start the application.

The link for the new file is:

"NOT THE BLOODY EXE DOES NOT WORK......"

If the problem persists, please send another analysis file of the latest executable to us.

Best regards"

LMAO I don´t know if I want to laugh or just to trash the bloody dvd.....