How do i disable hdr?

[vilas 477]

but i have problems, gamma=1 but sometimes it is too dark, i live in middle europe and here light is the same no matter if i turn

"This game's awesome! I love the blinding glare from oncoming headlights in the game at night. Shame we can't equip torches for signalling amongst, other things."

this game has many many problems, horrible performance, missing LODs , blind textures, after 30 minutes of gameplay game look horrible , grenades kill through the wall, i wanted to make m own campaign, but the more i "play" the more problems i see, but this HDR is really annoying

probably i will back to OFP, when playing is fun not nerves

[kenjara 0]

"Shame we can't equip torches for signalling amongst, other things."

Thats a great idea! any modders listening?

[opf12345 0]

About the hdr on and off, I meant for SINGLEPLAYER.

[hoot 0]

[...] in real life my eyes dont start hurting because of constantly changing brightness.[...]

Iris diaphragms close when too much light reaches the retina, we all agree on that. Moving constantly from dark to bright places, would result in exhaustion of your eyes. Sunglasses not only safeguard against rays, it also decreases brightness for you. Just to disburden your eyes. So something must be true with what i've said In my 'old' days, when i was a gunner on Leopard 2A4/A5, i got splitting headaches just from looking for four hours through optics, continuous. Exhaustion in biology results in weariness or pains.

[...]Furthermore the AI doesnt seem to be affected by the sun, so why bother, its only usefull in PvP MP, which isnt exactly the most played gametype.[...]

That's true. The FoV of the AI should be affected by the sun's angle and direction as well.

I agree to the rest.

@Maruk: Disable HDR( r )? I remember notifications which said, that HDR( r ) is something you can't fully disable. Applies that for SP and/or MP?

[Maddmatt 1]

Yea tried that mate left at default, still have problems. Maybe its NVIDIA/Driver issue...i dont know.

93.81 drivers are what I'm using, also used 93.71 without problems. Maybe that will help. Though it's hard to tell who really has problems apart from people who simply see a small change in lighting and think it's unrealistic. You should see changes in lighting, but not huge rapid ones like an example video showed.

[Frosty_theAussie 0]

I don't know how people can claim this effect is realistic. The "glare" where everything darkens in real life is gradual and subtle, but people who are experiencing this bug/effect are noticing it immediately to the point where the constant changes are distracting.

[Bad Pilot 0]

You'd have to be a bit clearer for me to understand your criticism there; the scenario was a little ambiguous. To start with, are you talking about daytime or night-time? Mayeb it's just too early in the morning for me?

Using the cheat mode (3rd-person view) will dramatically detract from the realism of HDR to the point where it could seem random. You deserve everything you get if you play like that, ppl!

-Fenix out

PS It's a personal fault of mine that every time I hear a criticism of HDR, I suspect the player would be happier with rocket-jumping Quake hi-jinks .

[memnoch 0]

Perhaps you could play around with the driver to disable this functionality. However for the sakes of fair play I hope this is not possible.

[Frosty_theAussie 0]

You'd have to be a bit clearer for me to understand your criticism there; the scenario was a little ambiguous. To start with, are you talking about daytime or night-time? Mayeb it's just too early in the morning for me?

Using the cheat mode (3rd-person view) will dramatically detract from the realism of HDR to the point where it could seem random. You deserve everything you get if you play like that, ppl!

-Fenix out

PS It's a personal fault of mine that every time I hear a criticism of HDR, I suspect the player would be happier with rocket-jumping Quake hi-jinks .

I'm talking about the day-time. I have trouble seeing in real life in low light situations as it is, and have to fine-tune the gamma settings on my monitor to see properly, and the constant changing of the lighting is like a slap in the face. One minute when I'm facing away from the direction of the sun, it's fine. The very second I turn around, bam, the lighting has gone darker. It's too sudden and too drastic, it makes it harder to see to the point where I'm not having fun. This is a game, not real-life. If I pay for a game, I can play it any way I like, so long as I'm having fun - that's what games are for. Not everybody wants an ultra-realistic sim that's 100% like real-life. Users should be able to choose what features they would like enabled, and this is already implemented to a degree in the difficulty panel. I'm talking about single-player, by the way. I understand that being able to disable HDR in MP would give players an unfair advantage. I would like to play the game off-line to have the most fun.

And yes, I enjoy rocket-jumping hi-jinks. But I don't see how a graphical feature such as this would make you think that the user is criticising the realism of the game, as opposed to a graphical element. It's not like we're saying "OMG I GET KILED WIHT 1 BULLET THIS GAME SUX".

Edit: For instance, how about map editing? It makes it harder to test the placement of units and objects when you can only see them clearly from one direction.

[Bad Pilot 0]

Ah, thanks for clarifying. I already have a theory that if you mess with your vidcard's vibrance/intensity or change the game gamma and contrast, then HDR doesn't look right.

First thing I did with the game was change gamma and contrast and I very quickly changed it back. Playing the game with the curtains drawn and roomlights off has been recommended to me in certain circumstances, not that really find that acceptable.

Can you alter the screens own brightness instead of the video driver or game settings?

And for SP, a setting to turn off HDR wouldn't hurt anyone.

-Fenix out.

[NeMeSiS 11]

Iris diaphragms close when too much light reaches the retina, we all agree on that. Moving constantly from dark to bright places, would result in exhaustion of your eyes. Sunglasses not only safeguard against rays, it also decreases brightness for you. Just to disburden your eyes.

Although this is true, i think this is more or less on the border of realism (is it still simulating when my real eyes hurt?), next thing is electric shocks when hit (although i would prefer this over the HDR, as it would make me more cautious, the brightness changes just make me afraid of turning >2 degrees), and somehow i doubt that looking in a constantly brightness changing lightbulb (monitor) has positive long-term effects on my eyes.

The idea itself is good, but because the brightness changes too fast/often/much, it has no effect on the AI, and looking from a dark room/place/whatever to a bright place (outside/whatever) has no effect on the HDR (just your direction in comparison with the sun+the height of the sun) the implementation is a bit poor.

[Luciano 0]

I can assure you the HDR in ARMA is nothing like real life.

BIS needs to rework the HDR code and get it done properly or give us the option to take it off. Because it pisses people off playing like this.

Something is missing because things are not right.

Also the effect is stupid because you don't even need to look directly in the sun for it to happen. You can just look down and just move a few degrees to the left and right. And boom....... everything changes.

[Bad Pilot 0]

How come it doesn't bother me? Tonight when I play, I'll try to find fault with it on my system. I reallly will!

[opf12345 0]

You'd have to be a bit clearer for me to understand your criticism there; the scenario was a little ambiguous.  To start with, are you talking about daytime or night-time?  Mayeb it's just too early in the morning for me?

Using the cheat mode (3rd-person view) will dramatically detract from the realism of HDR to the point where it could seem random.  You deserve everything you get if you play like that, ppl!

-Fenix out

PS It's a personal fault of mine that every time I hear a criticism of HDR, I suspect the player would be happier with rocket-jumping Quake hi-jinks  .

I'm talking about the day-time. I have trouble seeing in real life in low light situations as it is, and have to fine-tune the gamma settings on my monitor to see properly, and the constant changing of the lighting is like a slap in the face. One minute when I'm facing away from the direction of the sun, it's fine. The very second I turn around, bam, the lighting has gone darker. It's too sudden and too drastic, it makes it harder to see to the point where I'm not having fun. This is a game, not real-life. If I pay for a game, I can play it any way I like, so long as I'm having fun - that's what games are for. Not everybody wants an ultra-realistic sim that's 100% like real-life. Users should be able to choose what features they would like enabled, and this is already implemented to a degree in the difficulty panel. I'm talking about single-player, by the way. I understand that being able to disable HDR in MP would give players an unfair advantage. I would like to play the game off-line to have the most fun.

And yes, I enjoy rocket-jumping hi-jinks. But I don't see how a graphical feature such as this would make you think that the user is criticising the realism of the game, as opposed to a graphical element. It's not like we're saying "OMG I GET KILED WIHT 1 BULLET THIS GAME SUX".

Edit: For instance, how about map editing? It makes it harder to test the placement of units and objects when you can only see them clearly from one direction.

i agree, just because we are criticizing the hdr does not mean we are criticizing realism, ofp didnt have Hdr and that was still realistic

[vilas 477]

talking about real life ?

- in real life when man is in the shadow of building or inside of room or especially inside of APC all should be darker or even much darker than in open field

what was/is in ARMA ?

when you were in the shadow or inside all was much brighter than in open field

little turn was changing completely light

it was pure nonsense

after patch it seems to me that it is a little little better - or maybe i am tired and sleepy ?

what's your opinion after 1.05 ? except that game is much slower and a lot of lags

[opf12345 0]

talking about real life ?

- in real life when man is in the shadow of building or inside of room or especially inside of APC all should be darker or even much darker than in open field

what was/is in ARMA ?

when you were in the shadow or inside all was much brighter than in open field

little turn was changing completely light

it was pure nonsense

after patch it seems to me that it is a little little better - or maybe i am tired and sleepy ?

what's your opinion after 1.05 ? except that game is much slower and a lot of lags

i cant run the game, i got the 505 version but i didnt run well(old pc mainly). i havent tried the new patch yet

[DieAngel 0]

HDR being what it is AKA, not an "effect" but a lighting model it can't be toggled on/off like this, or IS shall devellop an additional light model to contempt a few whiners?

Although i am always for adjustments that improve the overall experience, if you need that badly a higher framerate, well decrease your screen resolution, it's the best way to get more fps, less pixels to draw, less processing to do.

I play Arma in 800x600 for god's sake!

(But my excuse is that the only affordable Head mounted displays are 800x600 max.)