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Well, today GRAW2 was announced link and with that my hope for a return to the old GR(IT) glorydays on XBL is gone:(

Now, on pc you/we are lucky, there is (modded) OFP and ArmA to come but what about consoles. On xbox we used to have GR, GRIT and (albeit too late) Elite but now ... on 360? There is simply no serious tac shooter anymore.

I find that very hard to digest. Millions of gamers, with the finest of hardware, and the smoothest of connection (xbl), of which a small but imho significant percentage is interested in a serious tac shooter are in fact left with NOTHING.

There is this big void, i surely hope ArmA will be ported to 360. Kill me anytime for my thoughts about this, i have already decided to revert partly to pc (and thereby leaving 20-30 good virtual GR friends behind) so the anti-console pc boys have their 'victory' ... (but i my book a real victory is when ArmA proves it CAN work and be succesfull on console)

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I think OFP:Elite was a test to see if it could sell, from what I remember it didnt sell the best. One major plus a PC has over a console is the mod's. Mod's keep OFP still going today. Without mods, could Vanilla OFP have lasted as long?

Bottom line is this has been talk about over and over and you'll never find the answer your looking for.

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I didn't like GR IT at all, I really liked GR2 though, that was the best game for XBOX LIVE IMHO,got so many free weapons, skines, and maps, even better then Halo2. yay.gif

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This is exactly how I see it Max there is a huge demand for a true serious military game for the 360. Especially now that they're losing alot of people that aren't satisfied with how the Ghost Recon series (the once only worthy tactical shooter on Xbox) has turned into.

I bet the reason that OFP:E didn't sell well had nothing to do with that console gamers aren't into these kind of games. I know lot's of people that definately would buy ArmA if it would be released on console. OFP:E is in it's way definately a good game but let's be honest it looked and feeled absolutely too dated for the time it was released. I had that game for a long time on my "games to buy list" but they kept delaying it up to even years iirc. And when it finally came out a few months later the 360 already was in stores. So lot's of people simply wouldn't buy it because of that.

And I absolutely agree that by playing it on pc you have many advantages like mods, keyboard etc. Altough same can be said for console. But that's up to everyone for himself to decide whether he likes it on pc or console.

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I could rant for hours about the demise of Rainbow Six and the Ghost Recon franchises. OFP\ARMA and Swat 4 are the tactical gamers last stand.

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I didn't like GR IT at all, I really liked GR2 though, that was the best game for XBOX LIVE IMHO,got so many free weapons, skines, and maps, even better then Halo2. yay.gif

Living with the facts, a good sample post there..

GR was an half decent PC/xbox game, it was limited by many tech limitations of a clunky and very outdated graphics engine, it was no technical marvel but it had an interesting design, sound, atmosphere and even gameplay plus it was an original game, i loved it for a couple months, then played it on my very rare flashpoint breaks only.

GR2 was a xbox/ps2 exclusive, since they were after the big money they made a product that would appeal to the console masses, faster, flashier and well... plain dumb. To justify the cancelation of the PC version (port) the publisher himself aknowledged that the game was not appealling enough to the hardcore and loyal fanbase of the tactical series (the PC croud), yaba yaba...

Then came GRAW, and this time they even got some guys to make a PC version (made on the run and fubared behiond patching due to a very short development period), even more flashy, action paced and with no real similarity with the original product...

What can you expect of GRAW2? Another flashy consolised pos? Most definetly!

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The good thing here is that Arma is not being affected by the console "polution" that turns gold into.. shit, everyone should feel happy about it thumbs-up.gif .

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The good thing here is that Arma is not being affected by the console "polution" that turns gold into.. shit, everyone should feel happy about it thumbs-up.gif .

Unless you have an Xbox, and NOT a 2,000 dollar PC... confused_o.gif

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As this isn't strictly related to ArmA I'm moving to OT.

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