EDF Pack V2.1

[Ironsight 1]

T-34? Ain't that a BIT too ancient?

Well the EDF would have such a small tank force that it would never be able to take out a large scale armoured assault so they probably won't spend too much money on MBT's. I think the main purpose of the EDF MBT would be punching out tanks from neighbouring island nations and being able to support infantry with the nessecary amount of firepower

Quote[/b] ]I'm read again the old EDF pack forum, and I look that I'm a pain in the neck, in this old treath, find the discussion about the armored forces, and I'm reading again about the EDF tank, the old but usefull AMX-13 (it's a very good choise), and UR-146...

Both vehicles aren't final yet...

[kakagoegie 0]

Ironsight if I may ask, how many people are working now on the EDF?

[BlackScorpion 0]

Oh sorry, yes, I was thinking about 20 years ahead... forgot that the units are mid-80's, right? Well I guess T-34/85 isn't that bad then, after all, I guess they can customize them a bit...

Some off-topic here... listening to Rammstein's Rosenrot and staring at the dancing banana ( ).

[Ironsight 1]

Ironsight if I may ask, how many people are working now on the EDF?

Mostly me and Offtime who created most textures and the infantry base model. There's some third party help like for example the PC-9 from Footmunch and I got help from Arne removing all the config buggs from the first pack (which was released way back). I tried setting up a team but that died out unfortunately.

Quote[/b] ]Oh sorry, yes, I was thinking about 20 years ahead... forgot that the units are mid-80's, right? Well I guess T-34/85 isn't that bad then, after all, I guess they can customize them a bit...

More mid-90's so they can be used for any era. I thought about costumizing the soldiers for each 10 years but I found it a bit too much work for a small island nation

[Serclaes 0]

Given that its the Everon DEFENCE Forces wouldn't an attack chopper be a little out of place?

Well german army is also called Bundeswehr. "Wehr" is defensive something like protective.

And as the Bo-105 PAH1 (Panzer Abwehr Hubschrauber 1 = Anti Tank Helicopter 1) is a little thing and it shouldn't be too expensive. In the PAH1 version it carries 6 HOT3 rockets (AT) and nothing more. Exactly what a little army needs to attrit the enemy armored movements.

But actually i dont know more about that helo (variants and bla). Just imagine the german version of a Littlebird with Hellfires

And i read the old thread too but i must have overread this part

Indeed i was more thinking about the Leo 1

[kakagoegie 0]

Remmber, Everon is a small island. So I think an attack helicopter is just too damn expensive. I would just stick with the old UH-1. Rockets can be fitted to it so it becomes sort of an attack helo (remember seb nam 2 pack). But that's just my guess.

Ow and about the entire transport plane thing. Forget it. We in Holland (16 million inhabitants) have 5 transport planes. So I think anything bigger than a cessna   would be too damn expensive. Even with the support from NATO.

[DB-ERAUPilot 0]

maybe Everon can be the force charge with defending the entire malden island group..that eliminates the space issues since Malden has a much larger airfield I do recall someone releasing an addon island that put all three island on one map a couple years back..cause honestly, everyone knows the chances of ever seeing NAFP is very slim to none so best to worth with what we've got...

[CanadianTerror 0]

RHS had a good idea for their FIA T62 "Bear" where they added extra armour...

Perhaps an Everon version of the AMX or whatever could do something like this?

This way you get an older tank uparmoured and it looks unique.

[Commando84 0]

The AMX would be nice to see for EDF thats a unique vehicle compared to the oldies m113 and bmp

i think the EDF could maybe use a modified AMX as a Anti ar vehicle too maybe use the guns that are on those stationary AA guns that came with bas tonahl pack , dunno what they where named but i always thought they where a bit special cause they where semi stealthy too compared to the shilka who shows up directly on the radar when it spots you

[fingolfin 1972]

The AMX would be nice to see for EDF thats a unique vehicle compared to the oldies m113 and bmp

i think the EDF could maybe use a modified AMX as a Anti ar vehicle too maybe use the guns that are on those stationary AA guns that came with bas tonahl pack , dunno what they where named but i always thought they where a bit special cause they where semi stealthy too compared to the shilka who shows up directly on the radar when it spots you

They are called ZU-23. Good idea in my opinion!

About the cargo plane: A DC-3 (C-47) would be a good choose. The plane is old, quite cheap and has the right size to move troops and equipment from island to island.

A transport plane is needed if a mission maker wants to use these units as an army for the whole island group. The island would have big supply problems without cargo planes, or have you seen any big harbors at Everon?

About the chopper: I would vote for the UH-1, although the CH-34 would be nice too! For a small army like EDF it's important to use one vehicle in as many rolls as possible. A UH-1 would do the job very well, it can be used as a transport helicopter, as an attack helicopter with 2.75 inch rocket launchers or six AGM-22B (Pic1) (Pic2) and perhaps as a navy helicopter equipped with torpedoes.

Uparmoured vehicles would be nice too. Have you thought about an ATGM for the EDF? In the old thread you said something about an M-47 Dragon? Combat! made a good one. Perhaps they allow you to use it?

Nice work and it's getting better and better!

[CanadianTerror 0]

Quote[/b] ]About the cargo plane: A DC-3 (C-47) would be a good choose

That was discussed on page 9.

You can fly out of the island with a DC3 but Everon is too small to fly these around the island. As well, where are you going to transport troops to off island?

The troops are defensive and not for paratrooping around and attacking other islands/countries.

But other than that...it'd be a cool plane to see done and does fit for old and cheap.

[DB-ERAUPilot 0]

heres a pic of the island group made by Snakeman a couple years back that includes all three islands on one map..I don't think he down sized them...could be wrong though but I was thinking this could be the basis for missions for the EDF as it would eliminate the "not enough space" argument for aircraft and the need for a naval force..the EDF could be used to patrol the water arounds their island and others

just a thought....

[the_shadow 0]

they could still use a plane for transporting cargo....

and what sais EDF cant participate to a limited extent in UN peacekeeping missions?

on the other hand, they could just borrow/rent a plane when needed

[fingolfin 1972]

Quote[/b] ]About the cargo plane: A DC-3 (C-47) would be a good choose

That was discussed on page 9.

You can fly out of the island with a DC3 but Everon is too small to fly these around the island. As well, where are you going to transport troops to off island?

The troops are defensive and not for paratrooping around and attacking other islands/countries.

But other than that...it'd be a cool plane to see done and does fit for old and cheap.

That's why I said:

Quote[/b] ]A transport plane is needed if a mission maker wants to use these units as an army for the whole island group. The island would have big supply problems without cargo planes, or have you seen any big harbors at Everon?

It's up to the mission maker if he uses the EDF only for Everon or for the whole island group. And an army for all island should have cargo planes to move troops and supply.

Of course it shouldn't have high priority, but would be an nice addittion.

And Ironsight said that there will be an cargo plane on page 9.

There will be a helicopter and cargo plane but they still have to be decided upon

[blackdog~ 0]

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Those were released too, and they indeed did not lag at all... none of the islands were downsized either. The only gripe I have/had was that they were kind of a far distance apart.

[Commando84 0]

a distance apart? i thought they where percectly distanced    not to far away like one end of nogova to the other and not like it would be from the other side of the river to the side of the river close  

hopefully it could be possible when armed assualt maybe to have more textures loaded and so on, you could have nogova and the new island and maybe the old ones loaded at the same time  

my only gripe is that they aren't available in the Res side so i can't have my rangers or marines face off against the Edf

[CanadianTerror 0]

You can.

You open up the pbo and change them to the resistance side.

[Ironsight 1]

Small update:

Updated the BIS UZI with some new edited textures, muzzle flash and removal of the silencer:

[kala 0]

As i said transport plane is required.Why?Because of droping stuff maybe behind enemy lines,droping special units in enemy area(or behind them).It could also be used for civilian needs.

Nice UZI by the way.

[miss_cleo 0]

my suggestion would be to make the uzi with the stock extended...its quite easy to do...

[AOCbravo2004 0]

If I may, another suggestion for a transport/cargo plane for an island say the size of Everon is the piper cherokee, it was released seperately in a purely black camo scheme. You could just retexture that.

[ebns72 0]

These units are really, really nice, but I have one MAJOR gripe with them.

Please, PLEASE! I beg of you! Add them to the resistance side.

I am drooling over these units but I am so disappointed they are only on the west side. These guys seem like the woodland version of the desert OPFOR recently released, and the two go very nicely together.

[Commando84 0]

Very Nice Uzi Ironsight! i always wondered why Bis couldn't have put in a unsilenced uzi togheter with the Silenced one One thing i would like if you do is to config in HD versions of your troops too, so i don't need to do long initline configs to remove weapons and then add the corrrect weapons and then add the correct Hd mags

My buddy told me that he loved the m16a1 btw

[DB-ERAUPilot 0]

yeah, the M16A1 does look nice...it was a nice choice for the EDF...maybe they could be put on the resistance side although game history wise...I could hardly see a reason they'd be fighting against NATO....

[Commando84 0]

well they could be fighting the russians and get support from Nato ? from a mission editors point of view maybe you have triggers activated by side and you want to have say a west group of delta force that has to be inserted to the are and help the res out. Then the res guys has a group of playable soldiers so you might have bases or areas where west detected by east might get the russians to send a different type of counter attack than if res was detected by east? and with res side you can always choose what side res is supposed to be allied with thats one of the many really good things with the resistance.