Sphinx 0 Posted January 19, 2002 Okay we are gratful with your mod ! But we need more. Not to rush you.... But if you add a Harrier, or other things, you have to add more Russian stuff. I am Russian Myself and know a whole wide range of stuff. I think the KA-50 Hokum would make a good addition, also the Katasaki ! I think its the KA-52. Anyways thanks for the Great mod, and the pic of that awsome Harrier ! Â Whoever Agrees post here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluelaser 0 Posted January 19, 2002 One word. Havoc. Having that Russian chopper in the game would be great. Also both sides could maybe get some kind of anti-aircraft battery. The vulcan and shilka aren't horrible, but I find them inaddequate in multiplayer. Some kind of APC or BMP that could carry 8-12 AA missiles would be great. At least as an alternative to a vulcan or shilka. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.o.R.S.u 0 Posted January 19, 2002 Here's KA-50 "Hokum" Here's "Sergei" AA-gun Pasi APC with AA missiles AA BRDM? KA-25 Hind variant I'll post more if you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madmike 0 Posted January 19, 2002 post some more pics, please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimz0rz 0 Posted January 19, 2002 I'm tellin you BIS. The Ka-50 would be the shit for multi-player!! Jesus!! Armament: ---------- "A combination of various armaments to a maximum weapon load of 2 tons can be selected according to the mission, including anti-tank missiles, unguided aerial rockets of different calibres, air-to-air missiles, guns, bombs and other weapons. The helicopter has small mid-mounted wings fitted with four underwing suspension units and wingtip countermeasures pods. Up to 12 Vikhr supersonic antitank missiles can be mounted on the helicopter's two underwing external stores. The laser beamriding Vikhr missile is stated as having a target hit probability close to one, against a tank at a range of up to 8 km, and the capability of penetrating all types of armour including active armour up to 900 mm thick. The Ka-50 is armed with a 2A42 quick-firing 30-mm gun which has an unrestricted azimuth and elevation range mounting for use against airborne or ground targets. The gun is equipped with 460 rounds of ammunition, two types being carried, high-fragmentation and explosive incendiary rounds and armour-piercing rounds. The pilot selects the type of ammunition in flight. The weight of the ammunition is 0.39 kg each round, the muzzle velocity is 980 m/s and the range is up to 4 km. The gun provides an angular firing accuracy of 2 to 4 mrad." ---------- reference from http://usairforce.8k.com/ka-50.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimz0rz 0 Posted January 19, 2002 Or what about the Mi-28 Havoc? That would make a great edition to OFP. Tempted? Armament: ---------- "The Mi-28A has small sweptback mid-mounted stubwings with four suspension units. Countermeasures pods are mounted on the wingtips. The helicopter can be armed with a mixture of air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles, unguided rockets and podded guns. The Mi-28N Night Havoc is armed with Shturm and Ataka anti-tank missiles supplied by the Machinery Design Bureau, Moscow Region. Up to 16 anti-tank missiles can be mounted on the helicopter. Shturm is a short-range radio command-guided missile. The Ataka missile's guidance is by narrow radar beam and maximum range of the missile is 8 km. The missile has a tandem shaped charge warhead for penetration of 950 to 1000 mm armour. The helicopter can also carry four containers each with twenty 80 mm unguided rockets or with five 122 mm rockets. The helicopter can alternatively carry containers with grenade launchers, 23 mm guns, 12.7 and 7.62 machine guns, aerial bombs and incendiary tanks. The helicopter is equipped with a turreted 2A42 30 mm cannon, stabilised in two axes, with a muzzle velocity of 1,000 m/sec." ----------- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KDF 0 Posted January 19, 2002 Instead of unrealistic choppers like the Mi-28 & Ka-50 that have never really gone into series production or seen widespread service (I think a handful of Ka-50s were tested operationally in Chechenya..buts that about all), how about the later model Mi-24 variants (Mi-24P etc), the Hind-E/Hind-F as NATO calls them? They have the fixed 30mm cannon instead of a turret and improved armour & anti-SAM protection as a result of what was learnt in Afghanistan..probably wouldnt be too hard for BIS to modify the existing model..the latest export versions even have a fixed gear like the 3D model If we just want something different, I'd go for the Ka-29T (Helix-B)..makes sense that it would have been used to land troops on an island. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.o.R.S.u 0 Posted January 19, 2002 Here we go: Mil Mi-6 Hook Mil Mi-8 Hip Mil Mi-26 Halo Kamov Ka-32 Helix Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christophercles 0 Posted January 19, 2002 yep, ive been an advocate for getting those choppers just posted there into the game for ages, but youll never see the hokum or havok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathguy 0 Posted January 19, 2002 Would be great having more heli for the ruskies, but for BIS, it must be cold war material. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyles 11 Posted January 19, 2002 The russians are perfectly suited with helis in the game. Only thing that in fact could be funny to have in is a standard version of the MI-17 without that barrage missiles. Maybe equipt it with a side mounted mg or something. If done that way, simply move the gunner out of the cockpit to a window position. Sorted. That way the russians would also get a "normal" heli for troop insertion and stuff. Furthermore, mappers could create more fair mp missions when only wanting to use light helis like the UH-60 with mg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimz0rz 0 Posted January 19, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (deathguy @ Jan. 19 2002,14:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">...but for BIS, it must be cold war material.<span id='postcolor'> Yeah, like the G36 and Steyr. note: sarcasm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyles 11 Posted January 19, 2002 I agree on the stupidity to at least add the G36 in the campaign, however, the AUG was available in the mid-eighties. In fact it even dated to the late seventies. Dunno about it being used by US forces though. Afaik only Coast Guard, some law enforcement agencies and maybe Spec Ops used it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christophercles 0 Posted January 19, 2002 The aug originated in 1978, i dont know when many forces adopted it though, and yes having the g36 was a stupid thing to do in red hammer, but i guess they were supposed to be germans from the future or something, so i shot them and stole it whenever i could. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyles 11 Posted January 19, 2002 ....or spanish from the future hehe, aren't there even talks about G36 becoming the next US standard rifle somewhat in the near future, replacing the M16A2? I heared some rumours about that if I recall correctly. One thing that really pleases me is that it starts to replace the M4 in movies already. First one was "Exit Wounds", followed by "Tomb Raider" and "Password:Swordfish". Let's see what will replace the MP5 in the same way...Maybe the UMP? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chickenman 0 Posted January 19, 2002 I'd like to see the SuperSoaker 5000 used more often in games and movies alike.. It really is the forgoten weapon of the 20th century! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimz0rz 0 Posted January 19, 2002 Yes, but OFP is more of a conflict simulator. It's irrelevant how often if was used, or if it was used at all. The sheer fact that it existed, warrents it to be in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyles 11 Posted January 19, 2002 yes..in the game. but we are talking about it being included in the campaign that plays around 1985. If we would rant about G36 being in game, we would have to rant about 1/3 of the weapons and units as well.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Jekyll 0 Posted January 19, 2002 Besides, newer vehicles and weapons would also allow for a broader range of time setting instead of the 1985-1995 setting thats used in most usermade missions. That reminds me... WE NEED THE V-22 OSPREY! Nuff said! it's just the ultimate troop transporter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-RoNiN 0 Posted January 19, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Dr Jekyll @ Jan. 19 2002,20:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Besides, newer vehicles and weapons would also allow for a broader range of time setting instead of the 1985-1995 setting thats used in most usermade missions. That reminds me... WE NEED THE V-22 OSPREY! Nuff said! it's just the ultimate troop transporter.<span id='postcolor'> erm...no? it keeps crashing... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heyvern69 22 Posted January 19, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ Jan. 19 2002,20:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Nuff said! it's just the ultimate troop transporter. erm...no? it keeps crashing... <span id='postcolor'> So do F-16s, F-18s, F-14s, and every other plane and helicopter ever made ! ! ! Should we stop making every plane that ever crashed??? Every new aircraft goes through development problems. Sometimes the crashes are due to PILOT error, sometimes design flaws, structural failure, inadequate pilot training, etc., etc., etc., etc. The Osprey's crashes are not a simple black/white issue. People just always tend to FREAK OUT about the Osprey because it's such an unusual looking aircraft (helo/plane hybrid). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sphinx 0 Posted January 20, 2002 Still the Hokum would make a good addition for User Missions. Still the Apache wasent used. So why should they not add it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites