Kasatka 0 Posted January 19, 2002 When compared to M16, AK-74 shows a little poorer accuracy, but better reliability in battle environment and lower requirements for cleaning and maintenance during combat. That's it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chan 1 Posted January 19, 2002 poorer accuracy? well, I don't think so. In my point of view, the AK has the same accuracy as the M16s in the game, its just that you use the M16 alot more because the main campaign and missions is based on the NATO side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benze 0 Posted January 19, 2002 In the game, they are exactly the same I think, except for the models and sights... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silencer 0 Posted January 19, 2002 you probably think its poorly accurate because you used to using 3 shoot burst on the m16.On the ak-74 they have automatic! automatic is very useful of close ocmbat kill a target fast. I don't remember,but does russia still uses 7.67mm rounds on the ak-74? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluelaser 0 Posted January 19, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Silencer @ Jan. 19 2002,04:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">you probably think its poorly accurate because you used to using 3 shoot burst on the m16.On the ak-74 they have automatic! automatic is very useful of close ocmbat kill a target fast. I don't remember,but does russia still uses 7.67mm rounds on the ak-74?<span id='postcolor'> Ak74 uses a 5.45mm bullet. Not a 7.62mm like its larger brother the AK47. I prefer the M16 and now the steyr. The M16 has accuracy and a decent rate of fire. I find auto to be ridiculously inaccurate. Also I like the look of the M16 sights better. The Steyr owns though. Scope, auto and burst, cool look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kasatka 0 Posted January 19, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">When compared to M16, AK-74 shows a little poorer accuracy, but better reliability in battle environment and lower requirements for cleaning and maintenance during combat. That's it...<span id='postcolor'> I'm talking about the real M16 and the real Ak-74 not the OFP M16 and the OFP Ak-74... BTW the An-94 Abakan kicks both the M16 ass and the Ak-74 ass.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluelaser 0 Posted January 19, 2002 I figured that you were talking about the real M16 and AK. I think that both of those weapons have positives and negatives. Some of which you have mentioned. I have done some reading on the An-94 and it looks like a very interesting new weapon. Another weapon that looks very interesting is the OICW Landwarrior. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted January 19, 2002 The AN-94 has some interesting technical innovations and significant enhancements over other Russian assault rifles, but there is one feature that bothers me quite a bit: the feeding mechanism. Rather than having the bolt strip a cartridge from the top of the magazine as the bolt moves forward towards the chamber, the AN-94 uses a separate feeding mechanism that feeds the round as the bolt travels backwards during the recoil phase. This is accomplished using a cable. This cable is a big weakness in the design, and I wonder how well it will hold up. Everything else in the design appears to be an improvement over its predecessors, but I wouldn't trust the cable. It will break, either at its attachment points, or at the center of the radius where it travels over the pulley. Regarding the M-16 vs. AK-74, I prefer the M-16 in real life. I think the ergonomics are better, it is reliable enough for my purposes (never had one jam on me due to dirt in the action etc.), the plastic and anodised aluminum will outlast stamped steel and wood furniture, it is more accurate, and it is a more flexible weapon system -- you can turn a CQB weapon into a sniper rifle in less than one by swapping out the upper receivers. The scope's zero won't be affected either, since the scope is mounted on the upper receiver. That being said, the AK's are extremely reliable, and an excellent choice out to about 200 meters. I also think they have better sights, because they don't have a rear apperture to cover up the target at short and medium distances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kasatka 0 Posted January 19, 2002 For who don't know this is the Izhmash An-94 Abakan Assalt Rifle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangus 0 Posted January 19, 2002 Man, that is one UGLY rifle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Assault (CAN) 1 Posted January 19, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Rather than having the bolt strip a cartridge from the top of the magazine as the bolt moves forward towards the chamber, the AN-94 uses a separate feeding mechanism that feeds the round as the bolt travels backwards during the recoil phase. This is accomplished using a cable. This cable is a big weakness in the design, and I wonder how well it will hold up.<span id='postcolor'> WHAT? Never even heard of this rifle or design before, shows you what I know! Cable, hmmm. What kind of advantage does having the round brought up from the magazine earlier give? Faster loading time? What operates the "cable" mechanism? Gas? Do you know of any websites that I can go to for tech info? Thanks As for my thoughts for the '16 and its family in real life: I find it accurate and reliable in field conditions, so long as its kept clean. The '16 can outshoot most of its shooters. Like Mr Frag said, I also like the fact that uppers and lowers can be swapped per mission requirements. Tyler P.S. I still think that the HK G-36 is the best. Except for those ugly plastic mags. However I havent tried one in real life, so I can't judge it. (yet). The HK SL8 is the civvie equivalent right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akm74 1 Posted January 19, 2002 More tech info on AN94 AN-94 Abakan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barret 0 Posted January 19, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bluelaser @ Jan. 19 2002,05:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I figured that you were talking about the real M16 and AK. I think that both of those weapons have positives and negatives. Some of which you have mentioned. I have done some reading on the An-94 and it looks like a very interesting new weapon. Another weapon that looks very interesting is the OICW Landwarrior.<span id='postcolor'> Oicw? Aint that from the Chimera mod by Imf for swat 3? just cause it uses he rounds don't mean it ne good. The new M16's are full auto and there are even m16 machine gun's. A nice gun to have would be the Mac-10 for the restience!!! A nice site where the make the Carl Gustaf and many other missle systems is: Saab/ Bofors Missles systems And just choose acouple of missles from there (mostly sams) and then take ur fully automatic M16 machine gun with your Mac-10 Secondary and ur off huntin for humans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluelaser 0 Posted January 19, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (barret @ Jan. 19 2002,15:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I figured that you were talking about the real M16 and AK. I think that both of those weapons have positives and negatives. Some of which you have mentioned. I have done some reading on the An-94 and it looks like a very interesting new weapon. Another weapon that looks very interesting is the OICW Landwarrior.<span id='postcolor'> Oicw? Aint that from the Chimera mod by Imf for swat 3? just cause it uses he rounds don't mean it  ne good. The new M16's are full auto and there are even m16 machine gun's.  A nice gun to have would be the Mac-10 for the restience!!!  A nice site where the make the Carl Gustaf and many other missle systems is: Saab/ Bofors Missles systems And just choose acouple of missles from there (mostly sams) and then take ur fully automatic M16 machine gun with your Mac-10 Secondary and ur off huntin for humans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<span id='postcolor'> The OICW landwarrior is a project for a new gun to replace the M16w/m203. I don't think that its completely practical. (Relies heavily on electronics). But it still is a ground breaking rifle that can fire around corners, has a good amount of accuracy, a lot of firepower. It is a real gun to, not just from game. Right now it is in testing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WKK Gimbal 0 Posted January 19, 2002 In OFP, the AK74, AK74SU, AK47, AK47CZ and M16 all have EXACTLY the same precision and reloadtime, when fired in single mode. I checked the config. So it's all about which one that matches your clothes best Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christophercles 0 Posted January 19, 2002 When he says they can fire around corners, he means you can put your gun around the coner, but still aim, because you have a little display infront of your eye to show you what your scope see's. Its grenade launcher and rifle rolled into one, and they are completly seperable, so if a part becomes useless, you can unattach it and throw it away. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/oicw.htm You can use it in ghost recon, and its machinegun counterpart is this- Â http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/ocsw_atd.jpg The Objective Crew Served Weapon (OCSW) http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/ocsw.htm I would have posted the image for the ocsw, but it was 160k or something Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted January 19, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (christophercles @ Jan. 19 2002,15:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I would have posted the image for the ocsw, but it was 160k or something <span id='postcolor'> Here's a forum friendly version I made earlier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted January 19, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ Jan. 19 2002,14:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Rather than having the bolt strip a cartridge from the top of the magazine as the bolt moves forward towards the chamber, the AN-94 uses a separate feeding mechanism that feeds the round as the bolt travels backwards during the recoil phase. This is accomplished using a cable. This cable is a big weakness in the design, and I wonder how well it will hold up.<span id='postcolor'> WHAT? Never even heard of this rifle or design before, shows you what I know! Cable, hmmm. What kind of advantage does having the round brought up from the magazine earlier give? Faster loading time? What operates the "cable" mechanism? Gas? Do you know of any websites that I can go to for tech info? Thanks As for my thoughts for the '16 and its family in real life: I find it accurate and reliable in field conditions, so long as its kept clean. The '16 can outshoot most of its shooters. Like Mr Frag said, I also like the fact that uppers and lowers can be swapped per mission requirements. Tyler P.S. I still think that the HK G-36 is the best. Except for those ugly plastic mags. However I havent tried one in real life, so I can't judge it. (yet). The HK SL8 is the civvie equivalent right?<span id='postcolor'> The innovative loading mechanism allowed the designers to reduce the distance that the bolt has to travel, because it no longer has to strip a round from the magazine. All it has to do is unlock and travel a short distance backwards to allow the cartridge of the fired round to be extracted, a new round to be chambered, and lock. Ultimately, the distance that the bolt and carrier have to travel determines the rate of fire -- the shorter the distance, the higher the rate of fire. If you can cut the distance in half, you essentially double the rate of fire. The design of the AN-94 allows it to reach an unprecedented rate of fire of 1800 rounds per minute in two-round burst mode. Because the two rounds in the burst are fired to quickly, the barrel doesn't travel upwards very much from the recoil, improving the hit probability. The only rifle to beat the AN-94 in this department is the H&K G11, which never reached the production stage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptQ 0 Posted January 22, 2002 that gun is sweet as hell...omg..anyway thats going in OFP. lol omg....<drools> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-TFF- NEO 0 Posted January 22, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">In OFP, the AK74, AK74SU, AK47, AK47CZ and M16 all have EXACTLY the same precision and reloadtime, when fired in single mode. I checked the config. So it's all about which one that matches your clothes best <span id='postcolor'> What about fire power? And bullet speed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
110 0 Posted January 22, 2002 One of the things i liked about the Kalashnikov family of rifles was the slower rate of fire. you run out of ammo faster with a high ROF. Peep sites generally produce better accuracy then tangent sites like on the AKM or AK-74. The AN-94 sounds interesting, but looks like a "Franken-gun" with the pistol grip to far back. looks to have a crappy length of pull. the AK-108 might be better, but adds more weight to the front end. the AK-74 is just as well. the AN-94 would deliver more firepower accuratly, but not more accuracy itself. the quality of Barrel, Ammo, Trigger, sites, and Bolt are what lead to ture accuracy. the M16 is built to higher tolerances then most AK's. i like the trigger on the AK better though. A short barrel AN-94 would be better suited for CQB and leave the AK-74m1a1 as the standard issue feild rifle. or perhaps the AK-102. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
