B-52 Stratofortress & Virtual Bomber

[havocsquad 0]

A Mk-82 carpet bombing mission isn't intended to destroy heavy armor columns, its purpose is to attack stationary or soft targets that are usually entrenched.

Some helpful bombing target suggestions:

Tank Farms

Oil Refineries

Bombing the enemy side of the FLOT

Airbase facilities

Rebellous civilians

Annoying relatives

[.COMmunist 0]

Tu-95 coming up next?

[aus_twisted 0]

Anyone have a link to the ATC forum thread or if there's a page, I remember reading the thread ages ago and it doesn't seem to come up in a forum search.

[akd 0]

Gnat @ Sep. 27 2005,02:12)]

I was hoping for something capable of dropping LGBs.

You probably can use LGBs, but we would need scripting so the gunner will acquire/select a target in front of him .... then force the drop, and the target should be hit.

But what that scripting/commands are, not sure at this stage.

Quote[/b] ]remember that these are only 500lb bombs being used here

Exactly. I bet if you placed several squads of infantry around a drop site THEY'LL tell you the blast radius is plenty big enough !  

I don't believe the B-52 can carry LGBs. Look here:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/systems/b-52-specs.htm

[Guest RKSL-Rock]

I don't believe the B-52 can carry LGBs. Look here:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/systems/b-52-specs.htm

Im not really concerned about the B-52 - Im thinking about using the Virtual Bomber addon with other aircraft - specifically the F-117 and B-2 that i have sat on my hard drive waiting for release. While both of these aircraft can carry dumb munitions - precison weapons (or atleast weapons usuable) in OFP require some guidence.

I was hoping for a way of stopping the dive bombing when using certain weapon types without resorting to scripting in the missions.

[[aps]gnat 28]

I was hoping for a way of stopping the dive bombing when using certain weapon types without resorting to scripting in the missions.

Holy Grail that be

Maybe ArmA .... we can hope anyway.

(EDIT) But thinking now I see what your getting at, a bunch of LGB missions the A10 is flying level (probably scripted), and from memory (others posts) the Laser Designator only works on the BIS A10.

I must admit I have not experimented with LGB .... so there is a (vain) hope.

TWISTED .... your looking for this;

AI Runways

[akd 0]

I don't believe the B-52 can carry LGBs. Look here:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/systems/b-52-specs.htm

Im not really concerned about the B-52 - Im thinking about using the Virtual Bomber addon with other aircraft - specifically the F-117 and B-2 that i have sat on my hard drive waiting for release.  While both of these aircraft can carry dumb munitions - precison weapons (or atleast weapons usuable) in OFP require some guidence.

I was hoping for a way of stopping the dive bombing when using certain weapon types without resorting to scripting in the missions.

B-2s don't carry LGBs either. F-117s, yes, but they are not really a significant force and even they are moving towards JDAMs. JDAMs are really the way to go for these strategic aircraft, although perhaps the functionality in game would be much the same as LGBs.

[Guest RKSL-Rock]

B-2s don't carry LGBs either. F-117s, yes, but they are not really a significant force and even they are moving towards JDAMs. JDAMs are really the way to go for these strategic aircraft, although perhaps the functionality in game would be much the same as LGBs.

Sorry about this Gnat - answering Off topic

Take a look in the Armament > Precision > GBU27 - read the page and you'll see several other LGB's listed as certified armaments

The B-2 in recent times its dropped more LGB's on operational missions than Mk82s or Mk84s.

Whether F117s are a significant force or not is pretty much irrelevant.  They are a significant part of US tactics and strategy against air defences on and after the first day of war.

I seriously doubt that anyone will give up LGB's.  JDAM may well be very useful but in some situations the US have proved that LGB functions can’t be replicated by a JDAM system.  Laser guidance remains significantly more flexible bombing solution.

Im not just limiting this solution to either the F-117 or B-2 I have Tornados, TSR2, XF-32, F-35 & Eurofighter projects that would all benefit from this.

Going back on topic...

Quote[/b] ]Holy Grail that be

Maybe ArmA .... we can hope anyway.

Yeah, it has been done via mission scripting before but it’s not really the ideal solution.  Interestingly the behaviour of AI wingmen can seem to suggest a solution is possible - if they carry the right weapon.

I've been playing around with detection ranges etc in the past and seen the AI release weapons without diving (too much) onto the targets.  It seems to be a function of the combat mode more than anything else.  If you have a plane loaded with longer range weapons – Footmunch’s F-15E is a good example -  fly toward a target at altitude above 400m  and let the Wingman find the target – don’t order him to do anything and watch what he does.  Sometimes he’ll stay in formation and just release the weapons. Other times he’ll drop a little release and then return to formation but he won’t (usually) continue diving onto the target.

Play around with different aircraft and you’ll see what I mean – it doesn’t work with all weapons but find the LGB or freefall weapons and you’ll see what I mean.

[akd 0]

B-2s don't carry LGBs either. F-117s, yes, but they are not really a significant force and even they are moving towards JDAMs. JDAMs are really the way to go for these strategic aircraft, although perhaps the functionality in game would be much the same as LGBs.

Sorry about this Gnat - answering Off topic

Take a look in the Armament > Precision > GBU27 - read the page and you'll see several other LGB's listed as certified armaments

The B-2 in recent times its dropped more LGB's on operational missions than Mk82s or Mk84s.

Err...that's interesting considering the B-2 does not have a laser designator. I see GBU-27 listed at FAS, but FAS does not keep their info up-to-date and I believe in this instance they intended to list GBU-37, which is GPS-guided and has certainly been used operationally by the B-2. I also don't see the other laser-guided weapons you say are listed there. The B-2's primary weapon has been and continues to be the JDAM.

GBU-27 is primary weapon of the F-117. I believe improved GBU-27s have been tested/used on F-16s, as well.

Try globalsecurity.org. Their information is more accurate and up-to-date.

(sorry, just interesting that people are so interested in developing strategic weapons for a tactical game.)

[Guest RKSL-Rock]

Err...that's interesting considering the B-2 does not have a laser designator. I see GBU-27 listed at FAS, but FAS does not keep their info up-to-date and I believe in this instance they intended to list GBU-37, which is GPS-guided and has certainly been used operationally by the B-2. I also don't see the other laser-guided weapons you say are listed there. The B-2's primary weapon has been and continues to be the JDAM.

GBU-27 is primary weapon of the F-117. I believe improved GBU-27s have been tested/used on F-16s, as well.

Try globalsecurity.org. Their information is more accurate and up-to-date.

(sorry, just interesting that people are so interested in developing strategic weapons for a tactical game.)

It doesnt need one - ground designation, or FAC have been used in the past either that or the USAF is in the habit of publishing misinformation in their reports.

Quote[/b] ]Try globalsecurity.org. Their information is more accurate and up-to-date.

Personally I'm looking at 2 sources - USAF year end reports to the US Congress from 2003/2004 and Janes Website.  I know that FAS or Global Security havent actually updated thier stuff for over a year but the information in either is almost identical.

As for Strategic weapons in a Tactical game - what can i say i think big

I make things becasue i want them not because i shouldnt make them because it shoudnt fit in a 'tactical' game.  If we stuck to that idea we wouldnt be here discussing B-52s would we?

[gunfighter-6 0]

One small thing:

Is it possible to change the radio messages? It's a bit weird when you are talking to yourself by radio... can the bomber send the messages?

[-HUNTER- 1]

If you change the time between reloads to 0.0 you can drop some serious shit on teh enemy! Toobad you cannot release all bombs like at once!

[[aps]gnat 28]

If you change the time between reloads to 0.0 you can drop some serious shit on teh enemy! Toobad you cannot release all bombs like at once!

Yeh, if addon makers make their RELOAD time very low or even zero the VBomber addon becomes more flexible.

Bombers with reload forced to 1 or 2 seconds make the "target" area very looooonnnnggggg.

Quote[/b] ]Play around with different aircraft and you’ll see what I mean

Interesting ...... will do.

[ALYGATOR 0]

Someone can make an user mission with vb because i don't succeed(?) to make it work in my editor. thanks and sorry for my english........

[[aps]gnat 28]

Someone can make an user mission with vb because i don't succeed(?) to make it work in my editor. thanks and sorry for my english........

Just UNPBO the demo missions and use those as a start.

<span style='font-size:11pt;line-height:100%'>FYI ALL .... found the solution to my crummy textures thanks to Rock and Sander, next release should have much better textures and maybe more than 1 scheme. But dont ask when ... cuz Im not sure and Im going on holidays soon.</span>

[aus_twisted 0]

What was the solution for the textures?, I found a grey that compresses pretty good with Texview on the reskin I'm doing.

[Guest RKSL-Rock]

What was the solution for the textures?, I found a grey that compresses pretty good with Texview on the reskin I'm doing.

Look at the last posts on the first page - both mine and Sanders posts.

[akab 0]

Grey como wil be nice

http://www.fas.org/nuke....007.jpg

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/bomber/b-52h-m-010.jpg

[aus_twisted 0]

Thanks for the link, the only thing I didn't know about before was the Pan and PAATool. I used to convert textures to a 8 Bit 256 color pallete for some older games which was annoying, it would be nice if the compression in OFP had more colors in the pallete like most of the newer games have. Hopefully Armed Assault with the newer graphics engine, BIS?

I'm making the 2 main textures in 2048x2048 and 4096x2048, if you have the video card that can handle such large textures it's fine, I'll see what the textures come out like resized down when there done.

[Footmunch 0]

Nice work, Gnat

I'll have to dig up and finish the Vulcan model. The UK forces

need some carpet bombing capability too...

[Daniel 0]

This might be the wrong thread, but did Gnat mention possibly doing an AC130? I really need one for my campaign so if that is on your to-do list, please say clue me in. I'm gonna be using your great B52 aswell.

[[aps]gnat 28]

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