Back at it with Suchey's Marines

[Wilco 944]

Well, working on them again.  As you can see the MARPAT is yet again redone to look more closely like the real MARPAT.  Also, new texture for the interceptor (Yes, it's from Joint Operations, but the only one I could find and is possibly temporary) and new textures for the pouches.  I have also reworked the camelbak and added a new texture to fit it more closely to what most Marines carry.

I'm still figuring out things to add to them, so feel free to post what you think.

[Metalmalte 0]

looks neat so far!

[Gordy 0]

Wilco, my man, how I would like to make a soldier unit for OFP. The only thing that is stopping me is the O2 named selection problems.

Anyway,

It looks early so I'll wait until it shapes up to be more juicy.

[_Nebular_ 0]

Hi wilco,the that' s looking nice,the camo is well represented

!I have one little request,could you equip them with laser' weapons for magazine compatibility with HYK' s soldiers?

(Sorry for my english)

[-HUNTER- 1]

looks at gordy's sign, looks at wilco retexture marines....

[ebns72 0]

beautiful Actually, in the last version I thought the desert was excellent...its the woodland that needs fixing up, IMO. are you going to return to the lav as well and fix up some bugs? IIRC the ai didn't want to move or follow waypoints in the water which caused some problems with the lav.

I can also see you are retexturing the vest/body armor and equipment. The body armor on sucheys looks outdated and ugly so I can't wait to see him fully renovated

[Wilco 944]

looks at gordy's sign, looks at wilco retexture marines....

I'm all for it if he wants to

[Wilco 944]

What I'm really thinking about doing right now is completely switching over to HYK's US Soldiers and starting from there.

[shinRaiden 0]

has anybody else here thought of the idea of shipping unarmed soldiers so that mission makers can cleanly set it up in editable code, or are we all to lazy and can't be arsed to import the premade JAM description.ext blocks,or a little addWeapon script here and there? If I were to download something with weps already assigned, sure it's the lazy way to slap them in game, but even if I clear out all the weps and mags, the addon in those cases prerequires a given ammo/wep addon, and it's none-trivial to update that for replacement mods, JAM, MAAM, etc. This is nice and all, and would encourage mission development, but might be counter-productive if you also plan to include YAM4P - Yet Another M4 Pack - like everyone else.

Secondly, if you keep the models-textures seperate from the configs-scripts its much easier imho to provide some types of addon control and maintanence. Both are crucial for stability in the MP world post-release.

[Landwarrior87 0]

please use hyk's model!!! i came to that awhile ago i dont like sucheys model anmyore... they loook too big and bulky especially the helmet.

[Gordy 0]

what's up with my signature?

[orson 0]

At least i was listening Shin  

I fully realise the importance of what you say , take heed people ... knowledge is filtering here  

*edit*

spose its all down to the makers decision at the end of the day .

[ebns72 0]

It would be great to use hyk's model In addition to being a better model, it would create more standardized and meshed-together feel if you used hyk and your marines in one mission.

On that note of making them seem similar, will you still be using the old laser photograph gear? I think the gear on laser's new soldiers or maybe hyk's equipment would fit better with the rest of the addons available.

[Wa_Va_Voom 0]

It would be great to use hyk's model    In addition to being a better model, it would create more standardized and meshed-together feel if you used hyk and your marines in one mission.

On that note of making them seem similar, will you still be using the old laser photograph gear? I think the gear on laser's new soldiers or maybe hyk's equipment would fit better with the rest of the addons available.

I'm making US Marines with MARPAT cammo and woodland cammo using HYK's troops i already have gotten his permission. I wont hog the thread so quickly

you will have

85 Marines Woodland

91 Desert Marines Choc Chip

Modern Marines Woodland

Modern Desert Marines 3 Tone

Modern Marines MARPAT

Modern Desert Marines MARPAT D

they will follow the organisation of HYK's troops

Wilco these troops look great and its great to see such a popular addon get undated

Will you also be updating the Russian Naval Infantry too?

[Wa_Va_Voom 0]

Okay i've went and taken and photo and thinking about it I should have taken it without cloud cover becuase it kinda changes the colour a bit but here you go

Hopefully we can work together Wilco

EDIT

here is a few pics in normal light

and here is the woodland

[ruff 102]

u guys really should

and add some force recon guys too!!

using hyk sF models

[stanley 0]

Wilco, maybe you will place a new head model on this marine? For example, from OW mod, as Laser does fo his Deltas/rangers/Seals.

[Stelios 1]

My 2 cents :

The models are fine, dont need HYK models. Maybe adjust the helmet a little bit and the goggles. I would stick with a tan-camelbak instead of black. Unless you're going with my next advice : variation.

Sounds hard to do with such a standarized unit vs very custom SEALs and SF. But use variation in the details.

Examples : goggles. Like Suchey did in his original units. One soldier has a cover over his goggles, one unit doesnt have goggles, other one has. Then one unit has an NV mount the other one doesnt. Some different camo's on the camelbaks.

And Marine Sniper added a thank you in his scout sniper addon for an animation which let the unit have a different stance when prone. left hand on the buttstock. Sounds ideal for the M240G gunners. If you can implement that, would be ideal.

[belgerot 33]

Great to see you working on these again. I have kept your previous ones for some time now, and to see you're reworking them to look even better is very good news..

With the custom head, if you do choose to do one besides the old BIS model then why not go with Llauma's recent work? Looks the best yet..but also only if you want to, otherwise these units will still look great..

[Landwarrior87 0]

if you do use HYK's model.. alot would have to be changed.. Vest and camelbacks and things like that. As far as variation is concerned its like the guy said.. its pretty much a standard unit though... i dont really find it neccessary to do the little added details.

[FerretFangs 0]

All I can say is, no matter how good they look, please, please, PLEASE, configure their weapons properly so that they can hit the broad side of a barn at twenty yards with a SMAW, and not blow their whole squad, and themselves to Hell and gone with the Javelin. Otherwise, all you get is a very pretty pile of dead Marines.... and that's just not much fun for me.

[Gordy 0]

Wilco,

If you need sth for the marines just say, I can do it.

Helmets, glasses, weapons, etc.

[-HUNTER- 1]

I ment the gun in your sign dude!

F******* great looking M16A4 for elite USMC!

[GoOB 0]

Would it be possible to add Laser's or Llauma's headmodel on these babies?

[Wilco 944]

I'll talk to Llauma about it, I'd also have to get some people to code for new textures for the faces and whatnot.

I'll see what I can do, now that I have a somewhat three man team (Wa Va Voom/Me and Gordy on the side)

I'll get to you what I need gordy