Cheat or not ?

[Blackden 0]

19:37:16 Player xxxxx connected (id=xxxxxx)

19:37:16 xxxx uses modified config file

19:37:18 xxxx uses modified data file - g36a\g36.p3d

19:37:18 xxxx uses modified data file - g36a\g36_optics.p3d

19:37:18 xxxx uses modified data file - g36a\m_g36.paa

Obviously a cheater or not ?

Please...

Black

[llauma 0]

19:37:16 Player xxxxx connected (id=xxxxxx)

19:37:16 xxxx uses modified config file

19:37:18 xxxx uses modified data file - g36a\g36.p3d

19:37:18 xxxx uses modified data file - g36a\g36_optics.p3d

19:37:18 xxxx uses modified data file - g36a\m_g36.paa

Obviously a cheater or not ?

Please...

Black

The only thing that message says is that he has another G36 model and textures than the server.. I have it too as I did a small change to the model lods.

But if someone gets this message in a ladder match I would recommend you to tell him to fix it before joining as it could as well be a 5 m high flagpole with a red flag instead of a normal weapon.

[Blackden 0]

k..thx

[RN Malboeuf 12]

there are about 5 mods that cause that error if the server is not running the same mod(s)

but's he's right, normally we dont mind it, but in league matches, it's get the fk out and fix yur shit lol

[benu 1]

Most Mods change more than only the g36a, but the ofp supercheat by default only changes the g36a. It's easy to change this, but if someone had only the g36a changed i would be suspicious. I never had a player with only a changed g36a, all mods i've seen change more than just the g36a.

[RN Malboeuf 12]

thats because your server is limited in what it plays, what i mean by this is that players use it for only a few things so you get allot less of every one, where servers like ours get players from every where

Our server is in use 3 times more then yours and we see the single G36 error allot

when we watch those players in game they usually suck ass so badly we can tell it's a MOD and not a cheat (depending if the map even contains G36s)

[Blackden 0]

and if i can ask 1 more...?

What about these files :

xxxx uses modified data file - merged\00009mc_vojakw2.paa

xxxx uses modified data file - merged\00010mc_vojake2.paa

xxxx uses modified data file - merged\00011&str_fikovnik.paa

xxxx uses modified data file - data3d\racek2.p3d

Because i need to know.

[Gadger 0]

and if i can ask 1 more...?

What about these files :

xxxx uses modified data file - merged\00009mc_vojakw2.paa

xxxx uses modified data file - merged\00010mc_vojake2.paa

xxxx uses modified data file - merged\00011&str_fikovnik.paa

xxxx uses modified data file - data3d\racek2.p3d

Because i need to know.  

Possibly, but its much more likely they just need to enable HWTL in there OFP prefrences. Test it yourself, disable HWTL then join your server, you will get the same checkfile messages.

[benu 1]

Actually, you only should get those messages when you do NOT have HWTL enabled, but in that case you should get 12 merged\bla.paa messages. If you get less than 12 then they have tampered with the merged.pbo, which contains eg soldier textures. Such things are used for glow skins or (badly working) aimbots.

[Gadger 0]

Actually, you only should get those messages when you do NOT have HWTL enabled,

That's exactly what I said Benu, I just worded it differently.

[benu 1]

I know, but i wanted to stress what i think is the crucial point with these messages: you either get none of them (HWTL) or ALL TWELVE (no HWTL). Everything else means the player tempered with the textures for the soldier models.

[Blackden 0]

Thx for the answers guys

[RN Malboeuf 12]

Just loose the merged file checks,  you'll have too many players with errors, that you wont beable to determin which is a cheat and what is not, Admins like Benu and I do  have a good Idea which sets of errors "could" be cheats, but in the end it's very hard to figure out

Also Merged Checks are concidered faulty due to this, and many servers disregard the Merged checks, some use ours (ours will find roughly 50% of actuall cheaters and not display 100% false Error info), and others just ignore them

[RN Malboeuf 12]

and before benu craps out on me, we have tested his server settings and they do not see about 60% of the cheats giving his server about 40% coverage. our's captures 75% of current and out dated cheats, nor can any server do past that i am afraid since you can not guess and what filenames they may make

[Blackden 0]

you can add : "data1.000" to your filechecker, from a wireframe program, we caught one guy with this file on our server last night.

[theavonlady 2]

you can add : "data1.000" to your filechecker, from a wireframe program, we caught one guy with this file on our server last night.

What is wireframe and what does this program do?

[Sniperwolf572 758]

Wireframe mode does not load any textures so you can see trough objects.

[Blackden 0]

Damn avonlady, you dont know what is a wireframe program, its the most used cheat in OFP with speed cheat and colored uniform.

Wireframe is really easy to use, the game is very bad with it, but you can see who is behind a wall, a bush or who come in front of you.

you can see in this screenshot: http://blackden.free.fr/wireframe.jpg

But player who use it, cant read chat message, if you ask him something, he will not answer cause he dont see anything.

And, there is no way for ask BIS to give us a filechecker who can check in other directory than OFP ?

[Marshal 0]

Hey guys,

Marshal Law here from the TNT League. I was wondering if perhaps the people here could put their heads together and come up with a really good up to date filechecker which could be released to the OFP community. I am a member of the Strike Team clan and we have a pretty good filechecker but there are still a few cheats that get past it.

I think a good idea for OFP2 would be if the game had a filechecker built into it which could be updated with new code with every new patch released. The big problem with OFP is that anyone can add a cheatfile into their folders and rename it. Now if OFP2 knew what files were new to the folder (no matter what you called it) then we would all be a lot better off.

So heres a challenge - can anyone come up with a really good filechecker to stop these cheating losers once and for all?

ML

[sanctuary 19]

Is cheating on multiplayer that big ? or is it just always the same few sad idiots coming with new names or renamed cheats ?

This thread gives me the feeling that there is a lot of stupid cheaters online, is that true ?

[RN Malboeuf 12]

actually for all we bitch it's really not that bad, the OFP Community seems bent on realism, the only time it really becomes bother some is in league matches, there are still ass holes that want to win the easy way

our server see's atleast 5 cheat attemps a day (they Disco when caught by file checker) (does this mean they go else where? who knows.. but since mainsteam servers all have simmular file checks they are realitivly cheat free)

and there seems to be 1-2 cheats a week, they seem to get in pass the file checks, but both sides (east/west) will readily say who is fking around

in those instances it's easy to tell who the guy is, some time tho a player will use the cheat in moderation, putting him on top of a CTF or DM

the 102% speed cheat allows players to center in on thier enemys 2% faster then them, they stop breathing 2% faster, thier gun movements center in on targers faster (some claim mouse speeds can do the same but not to the same accuacy as the speed cheat)

then there are the wall hack and bush hack fkers, they stand right out, 3-10 times the kill ratios, even with a complete roster of elite players these guys rise above like gods - let's just say if it happens in this situation it's utter bullcacca

[BigRed 2]

Is cheating on multiplayer that big ?

No it is just always the same few sad idiots accussing people when they can't prove anything and they only thing they can come up with is that they are cheating that is what is killing OFP multiplayer not the few noobs that drop LST's on your head in Hexenkessel.

[sicilian 0]

Is cheating on multiplayer that big ?

No it is just always the same few sad idiots accussing people when they can't prove anything and they only thing they can come up with is that they are cheating that is what is killing OFP multiplayer not the few noobs that drop LST's on your head in Hexenkessel.

Yes and it makes me sad waiting half a hour or longer for a good game and then getting cheated!

There aren't so many ppl who cheat but if you meet one it is really fcked up. Personally I havn't got much time to play OFP and if I get the chance I want to play a interesting and hard fighting game. Therefor it is that badass to investigate time you usually not have and then to get fcked up by these cheaters.

Sry for my wording but it is really annoying me!

[Blackden 0]

Quote[/b] ]Is cheating on multiplayer that big ? or is it just always the same few sad idiots coming with new names or renamed cheats ?

Always the same idiots.

Quote[/b] ]No it is just always the same few sad idiots accussing people when they can't prove anything

Wrong, we caught many players by the filechecker, "config_DX" there, "data001" here, and others "cheats\merged.pbo"

So you cant say this.

Hey, if someone from BIS read this line, please, do your best for OFP2, i am tired to fight cheaters, 3 years old fight.

[RN Malboeuf 12]

Is cheating on multiplayer that big ?

No it is just always the same few sad idiots accussing people when they can't prove anything and they only thing they can come up with is that they are cheating that is what is killing OFP multiplayer not the few noobs that drop LST's on your head in Hexenkessel.

so based on your statement there are no cheaters, that's an amazing argument lol

What is sad is how squads turn a blind eye to members that cheat, in RN we have let go 2 OFP players caught cheating and 5 in Free Space 5 years ago, we have no room for those ppl