In need of some help with USAF pilot jargon

[theavonlady 2]

I've posted this in general because:

1. I want this to get maximum coverage by those with potential to assist.

2. There's no mission making technicalities involved, so it's a pretty general request.

I hope the moderators agree. And if not, :P

I'm doing a modification of an OFP mission and I need some help in converting the dialog lingo words from the pilots and tower to something more life-like for a bit of realism.

Anyone who "speaks the language" and can help me, please email me.

TIA!

[Placebo 29]

Nice try but it's quite clear this is an off topic request

[bn880 5]

I figure if this deserves a thread then perhaps the answer should be posted here for all to see?

[theavonlady 2]

I figure if this deserves a thread then perhaps the answer should be posted here for all to see?  

When it's done.

edit: still waiting for help.

[mr burns 132]

maybe this helps:

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Code Sample </td></tr><tr><td id="CODE">[del]it´s from an rtprocedure.pdf which i used some time ago for another mission.

edit: uploaded RTProcedure.pdf

[theavonlady 2]

maybe this helps:

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Code Sample </td></tr><tr><td id="CODE">[del]

it´s from an rtprocedure.pdf which i used some time ago for another mission.

edit: uploaded RTProcedure.pdf

Thanks but a little bit overqualified.

I'm talking about a dozen sentences used as voice/radio messages in a mission that need to sound more professional.

[mr burns 132]

one more try, SHOOTDN2.mp3

this is radiocommunication between some us pilots,

much noise in there but you´ll surely understand more than me

[GoOB 0]

My suggestion would be to PM one, or several of the people we know are/have been in the US military. Like Monty, Hellfish6 and RalphWiggum They should be able to do some "professional sounding" radio voices

EDIT: I think I misunderstood, anyway good luck Avon

[theavonlady 2]

one more try, SHOOTDN2.mp3

this is radiocommunication between some us pilots,

much noise in there but you´ll surely understand more than me

Off the coast of Libya, was it?

Thanks again but my needs are specific to the mission. I've got about a dozen voice lines.

I'm not necessarily asking for the sound files. I need the text to conform to what pilots would say for the dozen or so situations.

[cobra@pulse 0]

Avon, post the lines you want looked at, people may be able to translate them then.

[hellfish6 7]

Yeah, thats probably the best way - post 'em and someone will translate them. Or all of us will.

[theavonlady 2]

From the RAT'S NEST SP mission but converted for player as US aircraft (not chopper) pilot, being lead by an AI squad leader pilot. Some of these are so corny!

Quote[/b] ]"COME ON, GUYS! LET SHOW THEM WHO'S BOSS!"

WE'LL BE ON THE TARGET IN A MOMENT. STAY SHARP.

"ALL ARMORED UNITS ARE DEAD, DOWN OR GOING UNDER. THE PARATROOPERS SHOULD COME IN NOW."

GOOD JOB! UNCLE SAM IS PROUD OF YOU!

DAMN! OUR LEADER'S GOING DOWN IN FLAMES!

IT'S ALL UP TO YOU NOW. TAKE THE TASK FOR YOURSELF AND COMPLETE THE MISSION.

I'M STILL ALIVE  BUT MY PLANE IS DOWN. WHAT CAN I DO?

JOIN WITH THE PARATROOPERS AND TAKE OUT THE BASE WITH THEM.

TRY TO GET OUT OF THERE. WE WILL TRY TO FIND YOU AND PICK YOU UP.

GOOD JOB. THAT BASE IS OURS.

WE'RE DONE HERE. NOW LET'S GET BACK.

[GoOB 0]

From the RAT'S NEST SP mission but converted for player as US aircraft (not chopper) pilot, being lead by an AI squad leader pilot. Some of these are so corny!

Quote[/b] ]"COME ON, GUYS! LET SHOW THEM WHO'S BOSS!"

WE'LL BE ON THE TARGET IN A MOMENT. STAY SHARP.

"ALL ARMORED UNITS ARE DEAD, DOWN OR GOING UNDER. THE PARATROOPERS SHOULD COME IN NOW."

GOOD JOB! UNCLE SAM IS PROUD OF YOU!

DAMN! OUR LEADER'S GOING DOWN IN FLAMES!

IT'S ALL UP TO YOU NOW. TAKE THE TASK FOR YOURSELF AND COMPLETE THE MISSION.

I'M STILL ALIVE BUT MY PLANE IS DOWN. WHAT CAN I DO?

JOIN WITH THE PARATROOPERS AND TAKE OUT THE BASE WITH THEM.

TRY TO GET OUT OF THERE. WE WILL TRY TO FIND YOU AND PICK YOU UP.

GOOD JOB. THAT BASE IS OURS.

WE'RE DONE HERE. NOW LET'S GET BACK.

"Whisky one, prepared to roll! Let's make Ivan a run for his money! "

"Approaching target area, clear to engage. Green weapons hold. Repeat, green weapons hold."

"Target area is clear! Armoured units are neutralized, I repeat, target area is clear. Whisky one, out."

"Good job, good job!"

"OH SHIT! SHIT! Whisky one is down! Repeat, whisky one IS down"

"You are on your own whisky two, stay in the air. Diverting fighters to your location, hold on"

"This is whisky two.... I am a bird without wings, awaiting further instructions"

Aaaw, this is equally corny

[Homefry 0]

No, its less corny, a little anyway.

[theavonlady 2]

No, its less corny, a little anyway.  

Definitely less corny. Thanks.

Can anyone else improve on this and complete it?

[FSPilot 0]

Quote[/b] ]"COME ON, GUYS! LET SHOW THEM WHO'S BOSS!"

WE'LL BE ON THE TARGET IN A MOMENT. STAY SHARP.

"ALL ARMORED UNITS ARE DEAD, DOWN OR GOING UNDER. THE PARATROOPERS SHOULD COME IN NOW."

GOOD JOB! UNCLE SAM IS PROUD OF YOU!

DAMN! OUR LEADER'S GOING DOWN IN FLAMES!

IT'S ALL UP TO YOU NOW. TAKE THE TASK FOR YOURSELF AND COMPLETE THE MISSION.

I'M STILL ALIVE  BUT MY PLANE IS DOWN. WHAT CAN I DO?

JOIN WITH THE PARATROOPERS AND TAKE OUT THE BASE WITH THEM.

TRY TO GET OUT OF THERE. WE WILL TRY TO FIND YOU AND PICK YOU UP.

GOOD JOB. THAT BASE IS OURS.

WE'RE DONE HERE. NOW LET'S GET BACK.

"Come on, guys!  Lets make some smoking holes in the ground!"

"T-O-T (Time On Target) is coming up, keep your scans up."

"All the tangos are smoking, send in the calvary."

"Way to earn that combat pay!"

"One's hit, don't see a chute!"

"Cowboy up and get your job done!"

"I'm down and clear, what do you want me to do?"

"Hook up with those grunts and take out their objective."

"Evade as best you can, SAR package is enroute"

"Objective secure, good work."

"Mission complete, let's R-T-B."

I'm tired, what can I say.

[theavonlady 2]

"Come on, guys!  Lets make some smoking holes in the ground!"

Maybe I should just play the "All Your Base Belong To Us" song throughout the mission.

Seriously, no one here has serious ideas?

[theavonlady 2]

I'm making some link notes here that will help me (and maybe others. I still would appreciate help if anyone is qualified.

MIG Kill - This is a narrative from the Eagle driver who shot down a Fulcrum in Yugoslavia.

Fighter Pilot Jargon

Dancing in the Skies - fictional nonsense but some OK pilot dialog here and there.

Aviator Slang

Puma's Log - Combat Stories - very nice fictional essays.

USAF Callsigns

Another USAF Callsigns list

UPDATE:

This is the mother of all US military pilot jargon documents:

MULTISERVICE AIR-AIR, AIR-SURFACE, SURFACE-AIR BREVITY CODES (PDF). (I found what appears to be a more recent version of this document on the Falcon 4 forums).

UPDATE:

Military Aviation Terms and Definitions

[theavonlady 2]

one more try, SHOOTDN2.mp3

this is radiocommunication between some us pilots,

much noise in there but you´ll surely understand more than me

Off the coast of Libya, was it?  

I'm getting good at this! FYI:

Quote[/b] ]Shootdown

The day is January 4, 1989. The airspace close to the Libyan coast. Two VF-32 F-14As from USS John F. Kennedy (CV-67) fly a mission as Combat Air Patrol when a pair of Libyan Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23 Floggers were detected. The MiG-23s had taken off from Al Bumbaw Airfield near Tobruk and they continued their flight towards the US fighters, even though the F-14s radar had locked on the bogeys. It's a common procedure under such circumstances to lock the powerful AWG-9 radar on the incoming Libyan fighters, to give them the possibility to turn around and head back home. Usually this procedure was impressive enough to drive the Libyans back since the radar warning tone resulting from an armed F-14's radar was fearsome enough. But this time it did not work. For the second time US Navy F-14s were engaged by Libyan fighter aircraft under hostile conditions. During the 8 minutes engagement, the MiGs kept turning in on the Tomcats to maintain a firing solution for their Soviet built air-to-air missiles. As later examination of F-14 still photography resolved, the MiG-23s were armed with AA-7 Apex missiles. After several evasive maneuvers by the Tomcats and aggressive maneuvers by the Floggers, the incoming pair of MiG-23s were declared hostile and the F-14 crews were cleared to engage. The crew of the lead F-14A, AC202 fired an unsuccessful AIM-7 Sparrow missile, while the second F-14As, AC207 (BuNo. 159610) AIM-7 found its target and destroyed one MiG-23. Thereafter, the lead F-14 closed in on the remaining MiG-23 and launched an AIM-9 Sidewinder heat-seaking missile. The missile exploded in the tailpipe of the fleeing Flogger. The pilot of this MiG-23 also managed to eject from his destroyed aircraft. Both pilots were seen with good chutes. After this engagement, the victorious Tomcats headed north for the carrier.

EDIT: Here's the full transcript, courtesy of ATWAR:

Quote[/b] ]Transcript

Crew

Gypsy 207 (F-14A, BuNos 159610 AC207)

- Pilot: Joseph B. Connelly (207P)

- Radar Intercept Operator (RIO): Steven P. Collins (207R)

Gypsy 204 (F-14A, BuNos 159013 AC204)- Wingman

- Pilot: Hermon C. "Munster" Cook III (204P)

- Radar Intercept Operator (RIO): Leo F. Enright (204R)

Alpha Bravo

- CVG-67 USS John F. Kennedy Air Command (AB)

Closeout

- Orbiting control aircraft. (CLOSE)

Transcript

207R- "Gypsy 207 contact at 175, 72 miles, looks like a flight of two, Angels 10."

CLOSE- "Closeout concurs, showing 78 miles."

204R- "Throttle back just a little bit here."

CLOSE- "Closeout shows 25 mile seperation for an inbound"

207R- "Contacts appear to be heading, ah, 315 now, speed 430, Angels approximately 8,000."

CLOSE- "Roger Ace, take it north."

204P- "Looks like we'll have to make a quick loop here."

204R- "Come starboard, ah I need to give ya collision here. Yeah, come starboard about 40."

207R- "207 ah, 61 miles now, bearing 180, Angels 8, heading 330." 204R- "Steady up."

CLOSE- "Alpha Bravo this is Closeout."

204R- "Come back port, ah, 20 degrees here, he's jinkin' now."

207R- "Bogies appear to be coming, ah, jinking to the right now, heading north, speed 430, ah, angels 5,000 now in the descent. So lets take her down now, we're goin' down."

CLOSE- "Concur."

207R- "Closeout, 53 miles now. Bogies appear to be heading directly at us. I'm coming towards. Steady up 150 for 33 offset, 50 miles. 49 miles now, speed 450, Angels 9, I'm goin' down to 3."

204P- "(unintelligible, from 204P, formation flying?)"

207P- "Roger."

207R- "Roger that, 30 degree offset now. Bogies heading 340, speed 500, lets accelerate."

207P- "Okay, it looks like they are at 9,000 feet now."

207R- "Roger, bogies are jinked back into us now, now lets come starboard 30 degrees the other side."

204P- "Coming starboard, say your Angels."

- "(unintelligible) patrol setting up station."

207R- "Roger, Angels now 11, ready up."

AB- "Closeout ah, Warning yellow, weapons hold, I repeat, warning yellow, weapons hold. Alpha Bravo out."

CLOSE- "Roger, Gypsies, pass up, Alpha Bravo directs warning yellow, weapons hold."

207P- "35 miles here."

207R- "Roger that. Bogies have jinked back into me now for the third time. Nose is on at 35 miles, Angels 7"

CLOSE- "Alpha Bravo cleared that, did you copy?"

207R- "Okay, I am taking another offest, starboard, starboard, ah, 210."

CLOSE- "Guys, I'm locked up here 30 miles, Angels 13,000, he's the trailer"

207R- "Roger that, level off here, bogie jinked back into me for the 4th time. I'm coming back starboard. I'm back port now. Port 27 miles, bogie is at 7,000 feet."

207P- "We're at 5."

AB- "Watch out, bogies 135-50, Angels 16, heading 340."

207P- "Okay."

CLOSE- "Roger, same bogies."

207P- "Okay, you're in collision now, steering."

207R- "Okay, bogies have jinked back at me again for the fifth time. They're on my nose now. Inside of 20 miles"

- {Master arm alert}

207R- "Master arm on, master arm on"

CLOSE- "Okay, good light"

207P- "Good Light"

207R- "Okay, centering up the T, bogie has jinked back into me again, 16 miles, at the center of the dot."

CLOSE- "Say your Angels."

207R- "I'm at Angels 5, nose up."

CLOSE- "No, his Angels."

207P- "No, wait a minute."

207R- "Angels are at 9!"

207P- "Alpha Bravo from 207."

207R- "13 miles. Fox 1! Fox 1!"

207P- "Ah jesus!"

204P- "Breaking right."

207R- "Roger that, 10 miles, he's back on my nose. Fox 1 again!"

207P- "Watching 'em up."

207R- "6 miles, 6 miles."

204R- "Tally 2, Tally 2! Turning into me."

207R- "Roger that, 5 miles. . . 4 miles."

207P- "Okay, he's got a missile off."

204R- "Breakin' right."

207P- "Good hit, good hit on one!"

207R- "Roger that, good kill, good kill!"

204P- "I've got the other one."

204R- "Select fox 2, select fox 2!!"

204P- "I got fox 2."

CLOSE- "Keep your eye for the trailer."

207R- "Comin' hard starboard."

204P- "Those fuckin'!"

204R- "Shoot him!"

204P- "I don't got tone."

207R- "That's the second one."

204P- "I've got the second one on my nose right now."

207R- "Okay, I am high cover on you."

204P- "Get a fox, get a, lock him up! Lock him up."

204R- "There! Shoot him, fox 2!"

204P- "I can't! I don't have a fucking tone!"

204P- "Tone's up!"

- {Fox 2--AIM-9 Sidewider launch}

204R- "Fox 2."

204P- "Good kill! Good kill!"

207R- "Okay, good kill."

207R- "Pilot ejected."

CLOSE- "The pilot's ejected out of the second one."

204R- "Okay Munster, lets head north, head north."

207R- "Okay. Port side high, comin' down hard."

204R- "Roger."

207R- "Roger that. Just revert. Blowin' north, let's go down low on the decks, unload, 500 knots, lets get out of here."

204P- "Okay, two good chutes."

CLOSE- "They're showin' two good chutes in the air here, from Munster."

207R- "Roger that, I see the, ah--."

207P- "I've got the splash, one splash."

207R- "One splash."

204R- "Take that down to, ah, 3,000 here Munster."

CLOSE- "The, ah, splash 160 at 96."

204R- "Lets go, Munster down to 3,000 and lets get outta here."

[mazza 1]

Avon may I suggest you post the detail on a Falcon 4 forum.  I am sure it would be a challange for the sim folk out there.. Some just adore brevity.

Some which spring to mind include http://www.f4community.com or http://forums.frugalsworld.com/vbb/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=11

Unfortunatley my brevity is slack as

[theavonlady 2]

Avon may I suggest you post the detail on a Falcon 4 forum.  I am sure it would be a challange for the sim folk out there.. Some just adore brevity.

Some which spring to mind include http://www.f4community.com or http://forums.frugalsworld.com/vbb/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=11

Unfortunatley my brevity is slack as

Thanks for the suggestion. I've just garnered 2 good links from those forums. I'll join if I run out of options.

[FSPilot 0]

"Come on, guys! Lets make some smoking holes in the ground!"

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Maybe I should just play the "All Your Base Belong To Us" song throughout the mission.

Seriously, no one here has serious ideas?

It wasn't that bad.

[Placebo 29]

Remove image tags when quoting please, you've been around long enough to know that

[shadow 6]

This is November one. I'm hit and on fire. Gonna have to put her down. Sorry about that, boys

[theavonlady 2]

This is November one. I'm hit and on fire. Gonna have to put her down. Sorry about that, boys

Rgr, my master caution and fire lights are on, I'm out of here.