CounterForce 0 Posted July 13, 2004 I am looking for a high quality AH 64D Longbow Apache helicopter. The model should really look like an Apache and the Apache should be able to carry all realistic equipment and not only one config. (38 FFAR, 8 Hellfire) I have not found such an addon. Is there somebody working on it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Messiah 2 Posted July 13, 2004 so basically the original apache but with the radar dome Mounted above the rotor? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
panzergrenadier3 39 Posted July 13, 2004 There is one form BOH. I've got a seperate Version without the Mod but can't release because I've got no permission. It's a very cool helo. Try it out... it's easy to seperate it from the mod. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CounterForce 0 Posted July 13, 2004 so basically the original apache but with the radar dome Mounted above the rotor?[.img]http://www.machtres.com/Longbow-1.jpg[/img] it is basically a AH64D with radar dome mounted above the rotor, yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CounterForce 0 Posted July 13, 2004 There is one form BOH. I've got a seperate Version without the Mod but can't release because I've got no permission. It's a very cool helo. Try it out... it's easy to seperate it from the mod. The BOH model looks great but there is no version with AA missiles. I am not very good in making or editing addons and didn't manage it to seperate it from the rest of the mod Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cpt. FrostBite 0 Posted July 13, 2004 There is one form BOH. I've got a seperate Version without the Mod but can't release because I've got no permission. It's a very cool helo. Try it out... it's easy to seperate it from the mod. The BOH model looks great but there is no version with AA missiles. I am not very good in making or editing addons and didn't manage it to seperate it from the rest of the mod I guess you haven't seen the stingers hanging on the sides? But if remember correctly these are only attached to the tankhunter (with 16 hellfires) and not on the basic version (FFAR's + hellfires). This is probably due to engine limitations. Someone correct me if I'm wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr_rOk 0 Posted July 13, 2004 I think the stingers are attached to both versions in the JSDF camo scheme. You also get two unmarked ones (black), they come without stingers btw that's the best apache this community has, at least from the released ones pool @ panzergrenadier did you change the camo too? Cos i really don't like the insignia on the left. If so you might give me a crash course on how i can do it too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cpt. FrostBite 0 Posted July 13, 2004 The cammo can be easily changed, since the models are the same they should ues the same textures (format and mapping ect). You can also just take the model of the RES side and config it too the west side with the black cammo textures. Quite easy to do. It's quite a good idea. I'll give it a try this weekend and see where I'll end up. I allways use the BOH apaches. BOH mod is a bit silent and I haven't seen much of them lately (although update pictures were shown). Keep trying to get permission. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CounterForce 0 Posted July 13, 2004 no stingers attached to any BOH Apache. http://www.cf-ofp.de/pics/apache_1.jpg http://www.cf-ofp.de/pics/apache_2.jpg The problem with the BOH apaches is that if I made a mission using them I could not publish the mission if I used the seperated Apaches without permission. Furthermore I can't seperate them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cpt. FrostBite 0 Posted July 13, 2004 no stingers attached to any BOH Apache.http://www.cf-ofp.de/pics/apache_1.jpg http://www.cf-ofp.de/pics/apache_2.jpg like mr_rOk posted; they are attached to the BOH apaches on the RES side; the japanese apaches in brown/green camo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigershark_BAS 0 Posted July 13, 2004 so basically the original apache but with the radar dome Mounted above the rotor? Correction....radar dome on top AND larger avionics bays running along side the fuselage under the cockpit. They are significantly different in size and shape compared to the A model. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSpencer 0 Posted July 13, 2004 The BoH apaches, US and Japanese, only have Hellfires and FFARs. I would like a version with some real weapons that the Apache can carry, like the AIM-9X and AGM-122. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CounterForce 0 Posted July 13, 2004 The BoH apaches, US and Japanese, only have Hellfires and FFARs.I would like a version with some real weapons that the Apache can carry, like the AIM-9X and AGM-122. the BOH Apaches on Res Site have AA Missiles. Aim-92 The problem is that they are on the res site and not on the West side and on their sides you can see some japanese figures instead of United States Army Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Messiah 2 Posted July 13, 2004 so basically the original apache but with the radar dome Mounted above the rotor? Correction....radar dome on top AND larger avionics bays running along side the fuselage under the cockpit. They are significantly different in size and shape compared to the A model. well, it was coming from some1 who's only seen them in OFP and TV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr_rOk 0 Posted July 13, 2004 Sorry Mspencer, but you're wrong, or if you're not I don't know what version of BoH are you using. And aren't Hellfire's and FFAR's real apache weapons? You made a completely ridiculous statement, why would I go for 1 sidewinder on the tip(? if it goes on the tip and not under the wing, in which case it's even worse) if i can have 2 stingers. And agm-122 is an anti radar missile-not much use for it in OFP, although you can probably shoot of an APC with it, but that's the 30mm cannon job. Honestly how many pics of apache with your loadout have you seen? And how many with FFAR and Hellfire combo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
calm_terror 0 Posted July 13, 2004 actual the apache Long bow and apache. both have sidewinder tubes on their winglets. not stingers. it carries 2 on each winglet. well can. and yes the apache can carry the anti-radation missile but inplace of the hellfires or LAU's.. btw if there is is not chance of any enemy aircraft they don't bother to put the sidewinder pods on the wings. but if there is a chance they do put them on.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr_rOk 0 Posted July 13, 2004 Calm terror please post a pic showing the apache with 4 sidewinders on the tips of the wings! Stingers yes, sidewinders no, they're simply too large. And there's no such thing as sidewinder tubes-remember that-you mixed it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fallchild 0 Posted July 13, 2004 For what it's worth, fas.org seems to say that they can carry sidewinders. Whether that's true or not, who knows? Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr_rOk 0 Posted July 13, 2004 Yes they can carry sidewinders but not 4 of them as calm_terror implied but 2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grizzlie 0 Posted July 13, 2004 I have a question. I have heard that Apache pilots were (are) trained to use Hellfires as AA weapon, can someone confirm it? And what is shown on fas's page r maximum load. http://www.janes.com/defence/air_forces/news/jawa/jawa001013_1_n.shtml There u can find other loads. It would be really nice to have new Apache's Seems so far it is one of "forgotten" weapon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
calm_terror 0 Posted July 13, 2004 there is the lay outs it is hard ot find any images of the pods on the real thing sicne the US has yet to go agianest an country with any kidna of real air power.. but here is a quote from a document aboot the ah-64 Quote[/b] ]The Marine version would have not had the Chain Gun, but it would have been able to carry TOW antitank missiles, pods for Zuni 12.7 centimeter (5 inch) heavy unguided rockets, and AIM-9 Sidewinders air-to-air missiles (AAMs) or the Sidewinder anti-radar missile (SideARM), with the Sidewinders fitted to wingtip launch rails. Sidewinder qualifications were performed with the Apache in 1987 and SideARM qualifications were performed in 1988. The Marines really liked the Apache, but the Corps always tended to be the last in line for funding and the money simply wasn't there. Incidentally, the US Army had some interest in the Sidewinder and SideARM trials, and also performed test firings of the "AIM-28 Air-To-Air Stinger (ATAS)" heat-seeking AAM in 1989. The ATAS was carried in a two-round pod, allowing carriage of four missiles. It lacked the range of the Sidewinder, but the Sidewinder also produced excessive smoke and flame when launched that announced the location of the gunship launch platform. Further firings were also performed with the British laser-guided Shorts Starstreak / Helstreak AAM in 1991, which was also carried in a two-round pod. tho for the sidewinder is does nto say how many only it fits on rails ok here it is an actual number yeah it is 2 sidewinders or 4 strigners. Quote[/b] ]A planned modification adds another two hardpoints at the wingtips for up to four Stinger, Mistral or Shorts Starstreak air-to-air missiles or two Sidewinders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadow 6 Posted July 13, 2004 The AH-64A can be fitted with Sidewinder-pylons on the wingtip, but they never use it. Like you guys say, it can only carry one Sidewinder on each wintip. They were tested but never used. The AH-64D has Stinger-pylons on each wintip as default, they are are rarely used. They only fit Stingers when they know they'll need it. The AH-64A has been tested with Stinger-racks, but they've never used them. The A-model does not have Stinger-pylons as standard. AA-missiles are not standard payload on either models, but both can use them if needed. The difference is; on the A-model you need to fit the pylons first before you attach the tubes. On the D-model you only attach the tubes and you're good to go. It's obvious Boeing had AA-missiles in mind as standard payload on the D-model compared to the A-model. One of the difference between them is that the nav-lights on the A-model is on the wingtips. These have been moved up to the side of the engines on the D-model. I assume all that smoke and heat from missiles fired from the wingtip will dirty the glass around the light and overall shorten the lamps life-time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
panzergrenadier3 39 Posted July 13, 2004 No, I haven't changed the textures. I've only taken out all files not needed for the Apaches. And that was not me, it was a friend of mine. I've only done some changings on the config. It is the original pbo but only with the Apaches. And they don't have AA Weapons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr_rOk 0 Posted July 13, 2004 You have black ones or camo'd ones? The ones in camo have AA missiles, unless you "destroyed" that part of config where it states weapon classes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MontyVCB 0 Posted July 13, 2004 so basically the original apache but with the radar dome Mounted above the rotor?[.img]http://www.machtres.com/Longbow-1.jpg[/img] it is basically a AH64D with radar dome mounted above the rotor, yes no its not, if u look closely at it from the front the compartments on each side of the cockpit you will notice that they are winder and bigger as the D version has a had a total avionics upgrade and is completey digital the A version is not, btw not all AH-64D's have the longbow radar fitted as u only need one per 3 choppers, i do kno all of the uk's     WAH-64's have longbow fitted  edit- ops tigershark did'nt see ur post there   but could'nt help adding my 2-cents  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites