Anti- English

[ozanzac 0]

I find it disturbing that people judge others like that.

When I sit down at the pub, I'll routinely drink with all sorts, if they're not putting up false pretenses.

Is it wink wink, nudge nudge, freindly rivalry or fully blown prejudice, bordering on racial hatred?

[bn880 5]

Has anyone else English living in the Celtic countries (for the uninitiated, Wales, Scotland and Ireland) noticed an intense hatrid of the English and racism that would never be tolerated were it against any other group?

For instance, in South Wales, where no-one speaks Welsh, lots of jobs stipulate that you must be able to speak Welsh. This seems a way of keeping the English out of jobs.

The Welsh language lobby there are sadly pretty damn rampant and have a lot of power within governmental institutions and the likes of the WDA. This movement and the Nationalists like Plaid Cymru are just a bunch of racist bigoted idiots, and it is appalling.

It is also one-wat enforced.

Well it sounds a lot like Anglo Canadians going to Quebec...

[Badgerboy 0]

I find it disturbing that people judge others like that.

When I sit down at the pub, I'll routinely drink with all sorts, if they're not putting up false pretenses.

Is it wink wink, nudge nudge, freindly rivalry or fully blown prejudice, bordering on racial hatred?

Yeah, we love each other really, just banter really.

(Except those Cornish bastards!)

And your right, accent does count for a hell of a lot here. It's not so much geographical, but more pronunciation. It tends to reveal your schooling and upbringing. I thought that was normal everywhere?

[IsthatyouJohnWayne 0]

Albert Schweizer-

Quote[/b] ]The first thing we learned about the english language was that pronounciation is crucial. People in the UK judge you by your accent/dialect, opening your mouth is like opening the entire book of prejudice. Actually, when judging a lady to become a pontential bride of the royal family, then one of the most deceisive factors is the dialect since it is said to represent family background, education, manners, and level of culture.

Yeah, but that cookie cuts both ways. Some of the cruelest accent based mocking i have seen is directed at people with 'posh' accents (with working class cockneyesque or other accents being seen as cooler since the sixties).

ozanzac-

Quote[/b] ]Is it wink wink, nudge nudge, freindly rivalry or fully blown prejudice, bordering on racial hatred?

The first kind mostly. Probably like NZers and Aussies or something similar. But with so much history its complicated. Some Welsh people probably feel theyve been persecuted by the English but then some people feel persecuted in all places (witness Bordoy the English 'victim').

bn880-

Quote[/b] ]Well it sounds a lot like Anglo Canadians going to Quebec...

Yes but if anything maybe a little less bitter or serious than the situation in Canada/Quebec. I dont think theres been much in the way of Welsh terrorism (maybe some half serious groups in the 70s or 80s), and i dont think many people in Wales seriously contemplate independance (less than Quebec- though dependance on the EU for a future Welsh state would perhaps make it more possible).

[Monkey Lib Front 10]

i'm not Cornish BTW

[Badgerboy 0]

i'm not Cornish BTW

I'll cancel the hit I put out on you then!

[Supah 0]

Heh british and their accents. I remember a friend telling a story about this trip he took to england when he was a teenager in the late 60's. He was looking for the postoffice but couldnt find it. He asked directions from this small town police officer. He sent him up this hill and lots of turns. My friend was a bit worried because he didnt feel like climbing that hill so he said if there wasn't a way around it because in the netherlands we dont have many hills and he didnt feel like climbing it. The officer replied "O your dutch? I thought you were german! The post office is right down the street to your left " Judging books by their covers (or their sounds) is a dangerous habbit

[Bordoy 0]

Albert Schweizer-

Quote[/b] ]The first thing we learned about the english language was that pronounciation is crucial. People in the UK judge you by your accent/dialect, opening your mouth is like opening the entire book of prejudice. Actually, when judging a lady to become a pontential bride of the royal family, then one of the most deceisive factors is the dialect since it is said to represent family background, education, manners, and level of culture.

Yeah, but that cookie cuts both ways. Some of the cruelest accent based mocking i have seen is directed at people with 'posh' accents (with working class cockneyesque or other accents being seen as cooler since the sixties).

if i hear a cockney accent or geordie accent i just don't think its kool (well no one does in this region)

[somebloke 0]

Hey, jordie accents are excellent. Cockney's are just stinkin trashy. "where to guvna?" or "alrite Darlin, fancy a kwicky?"

Jordie "why aye man, givs a stuttie". Cant beat it.

[tankieboy 0]

Cockney's are just stinkin trashy. "where to guvna?" or "alrite Darlin, fancy a kwicky?"

Noted.

[IsthatyouJohnWayne 0]

The Beckhams are the new royalty and they sound like dirty chimney sweeps. Actual cockneys are pretty rare, its more 'estuary english' i suppose, and that and other regional accents have been in ascendance (to varying degrees) in the UK since the 60s when celebrities and a more vulgar (from an aristocrats point of view) nouveaux riche succeded in socially displacing the old aristocracy.

[tankieboy 0]

^ Get her and her big words...

[somebloke 0]

Yes, cockney ugly word isn't it, like adultery

here's another ugly word.......Bon Jovi,

[IsthatyouJohnWayne 0]

tankieboy-

Quote[/b] ]^ Get her and her big words...

Ok

BECKHAMS ROB NOBS OF TOP JOBS!!!

is that easier for you to comprehend?

[tankieboy 0]

Yes oh edumicated one...

[somebloke 0]

Isn't he number 2? anyway the beckhams have stupid accents and voices.

[Badgerboy 0]

tankieboy-

Quote[/b] ]^ Get her and her big words...

Ok

BECKHAMS ROB NOBS OF TOP JOBS!!!

is that easier for you to comprehend?

 

Have you considered writing for the Sun? You could join their ever growing army of soul destroying headline writers!

[Major Gripe 0]

tankieboy-

Quote[/b] ]^ Get her and her big words...

Ok

BECKHAMS ROB NOBS OF TOP JOBS!!!

is that easier for you to comprehend?

 

Have you considered writing for the Sun? You could join their ever growing army of soul destroying headline writers!

I thought he already works for the Daily Mirror?!!  

Example of IsthatyouJohnWayne's work!!

[ozanzac 0]

I find it disturbing that people judge others like that.

When I sit down at the pub, I'll routinely drink with all sorts, if they're not putting up false pretenses.

Is it wink wink, nudge nudge, freindly rivalry or fully blown prejudice, bordering on racial hatred?

Yeah, we love each other really, just banter really.

(Except those Cornish bastards!)

And your right, accent does count for a hell of a lot here. It's not so much geographical, but more pronunciation. It tends to reveal your schooling and upbringing. I thought that was normal everywhere?

He he.

OK. That I can understand.

Yes, it does happen down here too. But it's rare to find someone who stands out from the crowd. Queenslanders aren't too hard to spot. (They sound most like Steve Erwin; using lots of slang with the stereotyped Australian accent), but in actual fact, most of the country has a relaxed/non-emphatic version of that accent/dialect. In general, the more slang you use, the less educated you seem. But you've still got to be able to understand its meaning to be 'Aussie'.

Quote[/b] ]Probably like NZers and Aussies or something similar

Yeah, We tend to look outside our borders and band togeather against 'N Zed' and 'Souf Efrica' for that same 'different accent' kick.

[hellfish6 7]

This is getting off topic.