smogmorph 0 Posted June 26, 2004 And now, instead of being a stressed-out wreck, I intend to enjoy some football. Agreed, let's not be english. Zlatan was not to blame, he played well and fought hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeMeSiS 11 Posted June 26, 2004 I say let the Czech win the Euro 2004 cup They deserve it And Nedved man that is a player  The man with the only and one 3 Knee disc very special guy  yea they do, the netherlands would never got here without the czechs winning from germany Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jotte 0 Posted June 26, 2004 I don't blame Zlatan for the loss but he wasn't himself today. To bad such a even game have to be decided by penaltys when there were so many hot chance for both teams. Congratulations Holland! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ironsight 1 Posted June 26, 2004 We have won, take that you Swedes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey Lib Front 10 Posted June 26, 2004 And now, instead of being a stressed-out wreck, I intend to enjoy some football. Agreed, let's not be english. baiting, tbh with all the big teams out apart from Holland, its probally going to be a very boring final and semi's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ironsight 1 Posted June 26, 2004 Congratulations Holland! Thank you, now we are getting drunk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Munk 0 Posted June 26, 2004 And now, instead of being a stressed-out wreck, I intend to enjoy some football. Agreed, let's not be english. No getting pissed for you I hope the rest of the games arent this crap, I had to play fdf to keep myself sane Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Status_cz 0 Posted June 26, 2004 LoL,Denoir,nice prediction Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Status_cz 0 Posted June 26, 2004 But I hope CZE-DEN will be correct Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOB 0 Posted June 26, 2004 Actually looked like we had this game for a while. I am proud of the Swedish team, they fought good and gave me 140 minutes of excitement. Very nice game Holland, but to be honest I think we played a better game for the morepart, but still. Very good game Zlatan definatley wasn't to blame, he missed one penalty which in the end didn't matter since Mellberg missed one aswell. Van der Sar had some great skill behind the posts too And yes, let's not be "Italian" or "English". A great game overall and as far as Sweden is concerned. Great cup! Atleast we slapped Latvia on the nose, eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Munk 0 Posted June 26, 2004 But I hope CZE-DEN will be correct Nooooooooooooooooo, I begged him! I begged him! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Status_cz 0 Posted June 26, 2004 But I hope CZE-DEN will be correct Nooooooooooooooooo, I begged him! I begged him! Well if we´ll lose,Denoir is dead man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Munk 0 Posted June 26, 2004 While we're on a killing spree can we get Urs Meier aswell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOB 0 Posted June 26, 2004 Nah, Czech. republic all the way! Would be lovely to see them take home the championship! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonno 0 Posted June 26, 2004 Im gonna step out of character here and ask a simple request, please for the love of all things holy, shut your pie holes with the sh!t stirring about England fans, its really starting to irritate and is getting old now, and I dont wanna explode either *takes a deep breath and in...and out....* I'd like to see either Holland win, or a shocker with Greece winning that would be nice. I always like to cheer for the supposed underdogs if im a neutral. If Greece win it, Germany if they have any sense should approach Otto if its not too late by then. Rather than the ex Bayern manager, although Id rather they didnt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bordoy 0 Posted June 26, 2004 Just like to say well done Holland!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pukko 0 Posted June 26, 2004 Congratulations Holland'ers; Dutch'ers & Netherland'ers Was a pretty good match for being a 0-0 match now, don't ya think? They will probably have to exchange those goal-cages after this  Let the ones who play the most happy & beautiful football win! Someone said that it's a pity that all 'great football nations' are out, since that would result in boring football in the semi's and final..... Well how often do 'great teams' really play very entertaining?? I'm looking forward towards a great challange between the remaining 'underdog' teams  FOOOOOOOORRRRRZZZAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apollo 0 Posted June 27, 2004 Underdog's? Youre average European national team has a quality of players that is not far at all from the quality of "top" teams like Italy or France.Sure the top team's have a bit more raw individual quality ,my experience tell's me that this individual quality needs a good team organization to really make a difference.In my oppinion the Coach of a team is the biggest influencing factor ,it's easy to fuck up an excelent team with an bad coach and a relative weak team can be seriously strengted by a good coach. Take as example Guus hiddink's exploit with South Korea in WK 2002.On paper the individual quality wasn't there to make the semi-finals (by far) ,however the sucses of that team in that WK came mostly due to their excelent organization and physical team effort. It must be much more difficult to form a solid team with a bunch of millionairs like the French or Italian players ,guys with an ego of a mountain and with personal goals inside such a cup ,than with a country like Greece or full of young players that have nothing to lose and everything to prove.In any case ,you can see an evolution in the decline of big football nations supremacy the last decade in the big cups. I noticed that almost all the deffensive style teams are out of the game .Italy ,Germany and Brittain to name a few who usually play an overall defensive game.It's good for viewers fun to have mostly offensive teams left ,atleast you know these teams will sacrifice defenders in favour for attackers and as result the number of goals will be larger. I got the impression already since WK2002 that offensive style teams have a better chance than deffensive teams because offensive tactics might better developed the last years ,though it could also be that the defensive teams lacked good defenders this year. Btw. Anyone of you guys know if turkey isn't considerd Europe in the European Cup or if they simply failed to reach the first round? (the latter would surprize me) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhoCares 0 Posted June 27, 2004 Holland! HOLLAND!!! AArrrrrrrrgggggghhhh... Must.........resist...... Schade, Holland ist immer noch dabei, ... Czech 2 : 0 Denmark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-RoNiN 0 Posted June 27, 2004 If Greece win it, Germany if they have any sense should approach Otto if its not too late by then. Rather than the ex Bayern manager, although Id rather they didnt. Â His Majesty King Otto has already decreed that he has a contract until 2006, and he intends to see it out until after the World Cup (where he hopes for similar success) - or until he gets fired Apollo, for some unbeknown reason, Turkey is a member of the UEFA But Latvia kicked them out in the qualifiers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apollo 0 Posted June 27, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Apollo, for some unbeknown reason, Turkey is a member of the UEFA But Latvia kicked them out in the qualifiers Well there is a bit of Turkey in europe (Istanbul/Byzantiun) and a bit of europe in turkey (lot of greeks there and greek culture at certain coastal regions) ,so i kinda count it as part of europe. But beaten by LATVIA??? Damn Turkey reached the semi finals in the world cup ,and they have individual quality that with some good coaching should give a nice result ... normally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
der bastler 0 Posted June 27, 2004 If Greece win it, Germany if they have any sense should approach Otto if its not too late by then. Rather than the ex Bayern manager, although Id rather they didnt. Hmm, I think he feels well in Greece for now. He was forced to resign as coach of the 1 FC Kasierslautern in 2000: http://www.fck.de/geschichte/historie/2000_2001.php On the other hand, his record is quite impressive http://www.fussballdaten.de/spieler/rehhagelotto/ 1964-1972: player, 22 goals, 201 games 1973-2000: coach in Germany's premier league, only one season second league(!), won several cups and championships Seems Germany does expel those who excel... Heute ist es leider so, dass die Berater ihren Jungs sagen: Ich mach' aus dir einen Millionär. Sie sagen leider nicht: Ich mach' aus dir einen guten Fußballer. Today advisers say to their clients: I'll turn you into a millionaire. Sadly they don't say: I'll turn you into a good football player. Indeed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
der bastler 0 Posted June 27, 2004 pollo, for some unbeknown reason, Turkey is a member of the UEFA But Latvia kicked them out in the qualifiers Russia took part in Euro 2004 as well. But Russia stretches from Europe to Asia, like Turkey does... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia In dubio pro reo? Anyway, Turkey kicked out by Latvia... seems they are only a little bit weaker than Germany... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ironsight 1 Posted June 27, 2004 Tonight: Czech 1 -0 Denmark At least, thats what I think but I tought Sweden would win too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dauragon 0 Posted June 27, 2004 GOOOO HOOLLAND !!!!!!!!! at least now with france out i dont have to hara kiri Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
