Bayonet animation on a rifle

[Gollum1 0]

sweet, i'm starting to think any thing (almost) is possible in OFP

Uuh, no.

Anyway, that looks like a fine bayonet system, but nevermind that, nice soldiers.

[Ionio 0]

fudge it, already been posted... sorry people...

[Gameer 0]

Wow! Awesome! I hope that after the release of these troops/landrovers/bayonets that perhaps you'll also help othe rmod teams use that bayonet system. It would be really nice for example to see the BAS troops with bayonets (or Earl & Suchey's Marines) along with some Russian infantry with bayonets.

At any rate that video was just amazing. Do the AI use the bayonets or is it mainly for players? Either way I think it looks incredible. The only criticism I might have from the video is that it looks like they're kinda stabbing a bit low (like at the victims legs) so perhaps if possible they should stab a bit higher? That's just a minor quibble...I'm happy that they're stabbin' at all.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

The AI use the system too (if you look closely in the action menu you can see a couple new options).

The animation was made "low" because:

a) So it wouldn't look totally stupid if the enemy was crouching/prone

b) We Brits have an obsession for that portion of the body

[tankieboy 0]

Happy with the good feedback from good ppl within the OFP Community.

[bmgarcangel 0]

LOL

Could you guys help our mod out with bayonets on our rifles?

[Tom Norman 0]

Hi, I'm Tom, UKF's scripter.  I wrote the script bayonet script (and associated 'fix bayonet' script).  I just rewrote it last night in fact, and got rid of loads of bugs.  Stu (Gameer) made the animation, while Dave (Vade101) and Jonno made the bayonet model and inventory object.  Jonno, the mod leader, seems quite happy to share it all with everyone else.  So once I've made the modifications I've planned, I'll talk to him about passing the script to other mod teams.  Or at least telling their scripters how they might go about making their own.

Anyway, some details about the script are as follows:

* The script does not run if the unit is not using a weapon fitted with a bayonet.

* The player will automatically bayonet any enemy soldier within a distance of 1.7 in his forward field of vision.

* For AI soldiers, the script searches for any enemy soldiers within a range of 15 (about 11.5 metres) in the unit's 90 degree forward field of vision.

* Upon finding a live enemy soldier, the unit will get up off his belt buckle, sprint to the enemy and stab him.

* AI soldiers will automatically follow their intended victims, so it is of little use running.

* Once the enemy soldier is dead, our man returns to normal.

I'm currently working out any kinks and writing new features.  But that is the script as it stands.

[Messiah 2]

just to add to that... if the script does go public, it will only be after the release of our DPM Pack

[bmgarcangel 0]

Well....I was actually curious also if we could work together...rest in mind, if we used, we wouldn't release it until you guys released it...that would just be uncool

[Hinny 0]

What happens if you are crawling with bayonet fixed and get close to an enemy?

Or if you are in the crounch posistion, then run up to the enemy. Do you drop down on one knee, then the animation happen?

What if an enemy walks into your path while you're are crouching?

[Messiah 2]

bmgarcangel - speak to Jonno at:

jonno@project-ukf.com

Hinny...

The animation is the same in all cases - the man will get up from the prone position, crouch position and then use the bayonet script - this is the case for AI and player AFAIK.

if the bayonet is attached and an enemy walks in front of you, i expect (i havnt tested that yet) the script will kick in and you'll stab him

[Munk 0]

Will there be a way to stop them doing it? It'll be damn annoying if you've spent ages sorting out an ambush to have the crazy AI run out to stab someone

[Hinny 0]

I'd imagine the conveniatley put 'Remove Bayonets' command would come in helpful there.

[Munk 0]

Well I couldnt be assed to download the video so I wouldnt know that would I

[bmgarcangel 0]

Roger dude. I will email him when I get home from school in about 3 or 4 hours

[Messiah 2]

Well I couldnt be assed to download the video so I wouldnt know that would I

then that would be your first mistake....

im not entirely sure about the scripting, but i'll ask Tom - maybe we can add some conditions to allow the player to hold the men back... but we'll see

[miles teg 1]

Wow....all this sounds really fantastic.  Hey Tom, one of the first mods that comes to mind that could REALLY use this bayonet system is the Civil War mod and what's left of the Nepolean War mod.   Something like a Civil War mod is HEAVILY dependent on bayonets.   I can just imagine seeing two 1800's era armies charging each other with bayonets fixed.  

But for now I'll be more then happy seeing the bayonets on these fantastic looking British troops.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[tankieboy 0]

I'd imagine the conveniatley put 'Remove Bayonets' command would come in helpful there.

hehe

[Tom Norman 0]

Ref. crouch/prone to bayonet. That remains the only major problem. I've searched and searched, tried all sorts of clever tricks, but I just can't find a way to find out a unit's stance. At the moment, should an enemy soldier come close to a prone UKF soldier with a bayonet fitted, the script will fire and after about 1.01 seconds, the enemy soldier will drop dead, irrespective of the UKF soldier's position. Even if that means he's still getting up off his belt buckle. He'll still peform the attack, even if the target has already dropped down dead. If anyone can think of a way to solve this then by all means give me a shout.

[tankieboy 0]

The best way to use the bayonet is in a last resort. Not to think fix bayonets and lay in an ambush position but to use on ‘soft’ targets to conserve ammunition, etc.

They also come in very handy when Fighting In Built Up Areas as you can imagine.

[madden 0]

what about a prone stab and a crouched stab anim so u have 3 different ones. then they wont have to get up

[Tom Norman 0]

That's all very well (a lot of work for Stu, our animator), but I'd still need some way of determining whether the unit was standing, crouched or prone in order to play the appropriate animation. Which gets us no further at all. If you've any more suggestions though, keep em coming.

[Messiah 2]

and make em quick! we're trying to get this released asap now

[miles teg 1]

That's all very well (a lot of work for Stu, our animator), but I'd still need some way of determining whether the unit was standing, crouched or prone in order to play the appropriate animation.  Which gets us no further at all.  If you've any more suggestions though, keep em coming.

Your best bet is probably popping off an email to one of the BIS crew to see if they'll tell you what the crouch and prone positions are called or how to identify them in a script so you can fix that problem.  

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[Tom Norman 0]

That's a good idea, I'll try that. Now I just need to find some reliable contact details. Thanks.

[FatJoe 0]

hmm.. try IM Maruk or someone Tom

And I'd like to take the credit from Jonno on the model of the bayonet (unless he made a new one, which I doubt

Wouldn't be any use for a weapons modeler if he wouldn't be put up to his task

anyway.. cheers for all the comments, our boys deserv what they get.. outstanding work Gameer, Tom, Dave

Cheers

Joe