Opf user mission creating competition...

[MEDICUS 0]

sound *can* = atmosphere...

limited sound *can* = limited amosphere...

Sound is the key for immersion in my opinion, if used correctly.

Agree!

Quote[/b] ]I also think its a shame to put the bar so low, 5MB i would say would be a bar that EVERYONE would be able to stay under and still make the best "mission" possible.

I only make MP-Missions (Coops most of the time) and a coop with 5MB file-size won't be played too often cause the people don't want to dl it  

Perhaps there is a different view of this with SP-Missions.

Quote[/b] ]Remember... they are only allowed to make one mission (no campaign as far as I know), so they must try to sqeeze a whole movie into a 30 second commercial... its sad that we wont be able to see "no holds barred", "skys the limit" type missions...

Am i only allowed to "throw" one mission into the competition?

Mfg MEDICUS

[drow 0]

not just one mission, i think u can put in 3, but they cant be a mini campaign, which is the best way to do a "mission" or Operation.

And maybe 5 mb is too high, but i mean, when i thought of mission comp i thought of the future... capabilities of ofp, seen, percieved and realized by different creative people...

[MEDICUS 0]

not just one mission, i think u can put in 3, but they cant be a mini campaign, which is the best way to do a "mission" or Operation.

OK.

Hmm, would it be possible to post a list of the "rules" (limitations of addons, file-size, ...) of the cmpetition? Or is there still one? I think i lost the line a few days ago  

THX in advance,

MEDICUS

[m21man 0]

MEC 2004 Rules

[MEDICUS 0]

MEC 2004 Rules

THX m21man!

EDIT:

Quote[/b] ]Working download link to each addon used: *only applies to missions in one of the “all addons†category

Hmm, what about links that work for some and doesn't for others (like the links from Gamezone.cz / never had problems with this links, but afaik some people do).

What about scripts, written by 3rd? Like Kegetys great Spectator-Script? If it allowed to use them (with credits for sure!)? Is yes, where should the credits be given/writen? In the readme and/or in the notes?

Quote[/b] ]Anyone found to have submitted more than one mission for a category, or to have submitted missions to more than 3 of the individual categories will be disqualified from all categories.

So i'm not allowe to submit 3 addon-Coops but i am allowed to submit an addon-coop, a not-addon-coop and a MP-mission (in the "not-coop" category), right?

[Placebo 29]

Okies a couple of quick answers......

1. File size: I see that a lot of people are unhappy with 3mb, let me get back to you on that one, I certainly don't want to enforce a rule needlessly that will inhibit the creative freedom of the mission makers (copyrighted material excepted, I believe the reasoning for that rule is obvious).

2. BIS content: If we've released it you can use it, as someone said BIS can't sue BIS

3. Working download links: Yes I know some people cannot download from Ofp.info but I think the vast majority can and if those that can't looked into using a download manager such as flashget (what I use to download from the office) I think everyone would be able to download fine, so with this example those links are fine.

4. Scripts by a 3rd party: That was asked and answered by me 1 page back IIRC. I'll find it and paste it....

Quote[/b] ]I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know the true legal standing of saying "I copyright this" in relation to a script in a game where all content copyright basically belongs to BIS, if in doubt get the author's permission and you'll be peachy

5. What category submissions are allowed: Yeah I was worried that I didn't explain that part very well, so apologies for that, basically there are 3 mission types SP, MP:Coop, MP Non-Coop, then you have addon/no addon flavours of those, so people may submit 1 SP (either no addons or addons), 1 MP:Coop (either no addons or addons) and 1 MP:Non-Coop (either no addons or addons). Basically I decided on that so someone couldn't submit an SP mission with no addons, then make some slight changes to it, throw in some addons and submit it in the SP with addons category.

[MEDICUS 0]

Copy that.

Thanks for the answer, placebo!

Just another question to the copyright (concerning music):

So i have to use either official BIS music (the one available ingame) or a non-copyrighted one form a band (does there exist non-copyrighted music   ). Normaly i just use small parts (about 70sec) from songs i like.

Mfg MEDICUS

[Tim Pink 0]

Hey medicus

All creative material created by an individual/s is copyrighted as soon as it is written or recorded, there is no such thing as non copyrighted material lol

so ur stuck with the BIS music.

Tim Pink

[MEDICUS 0]

... so ur stuck with the BIS music.

Arrgghh ... it's not the the music isn't good ... it's just like a bubble gum that has been chewed for a year constantly   Without any flavour anymore  

OK, i'll do my very best so ...  

edit:

Just saw your Sig, Tim Pink.

Is your music copyrighted?

Mfg MEDICUS

[Tim Pink 0]

lol

Well as a matter of fact i was thinking of offereing my services to the mission makers out there for writing music, short little peices for different atmospheres and also i dont have a problem with my bands music being in missions.

If anyone is interested please email me at Timpink0@msn.com or just add me to MSN

Thanks

Tim Pink

[Placebo 29]

Couple more things, firstly I've spoken to our IT guru and he says that it shouldn't cause any problems to increase the file size limit to 5mb, so we've done that, but that's all you're getting (for definite this time ).

There is copyright free music available if you search for it, google is your friend, so Keggys tells me

[Hornet85 0]

Just look for free musik

Altavista

MSN

Google

Just look for it its hard to find put it is out ther.

and if you got problem downloading from OFP Info

go to www.download.com and download a download manager that works just fine.

[kegetys 2]

There is copyright free music available if you search for it, google is your friend, so Keggys tells me

Actually there is propably very little copyright free music available... There's "free" music that you can use for whatever you want but even that is still copyrighted to its original author.

Doing nitpicking, the "no copyrighted material" rule actually blocks out people from most countries from the whole competition since the mission itself is copyrighted to whoever makes it and therefore it breaks the rules

[theavonlady 2]

Mission Makers could always use The AMORE method of incorporating music, which would allow a mission to run even if the music files were missing.

But no one ever listens to me.

[Tim Pink 0]

And they can always ask me and ill give them music for free

Tim

[MEDICUS 0]

There is copyright free music available if you search for it, google is your friend, so Keggys tells me

Actually there is propably very little copyright free music available... There's "free" music that you can use for whatever you want but even that is still copyrighted to its original author.

So does it brake the "copyright-rule" to use this kind of "free music" or doesn't it?

Mission Makers could always use The AMORE method of incorporating music, which would allow a mission to run even if the music files were missing.

Thought about that, but with this, i'll still have the problem, that i'm not allowed to use the music i want to. So there is no need for the "AMORE method"  

edit:

And they can always ask me and ill give them music for free  

 

Is there a posibility to get a sample so i'll know what king of music it is?

Mfg MEDICUS

[cozza 24]

But no one ever listens to me.

Preach it Mom. So the world can hear the sweat sound of Flashpoint.

[Placebo 29]

And they can always ask me and ill give them music for free  

 

Is there a posibility to get a sample so i'll know what king of music it is?

Mfg MEDICUS

I get the feeling you have signatures turned off?

[Tim Pink 0]

This website has some samples of my bands work but weve had alot of problems with ppl outside of aus accessing them

And also its not the best reflection on mine and Richard Normans music writing, we try to write music in all styles.

[MEDICUS 0]

And they can always ask me and ill give them music for free  

 

Is there a posibility to get a sample so i'll know what king of music it is?

Mfg MEDICUS

I get the feeling you have signatures turned off?  

No, but the DL-Links for the samles doesn't work for me

[Placebo 29]

Hmm same here

[Tim Pink 0]

here you go Placebo.

http://gdt.game-server.cc/~medicus/misc/infinity_1.zip

its in its early stages but it sounds good.

[xezon 0]

1. File size: I see that a lot of people are unhappy with 3mb, let me get back to you on that one, I certainly don't want to enforce a rule needlessly that will inhibit the creative freedom of the mission makers (copyrighted material excepted, I believe the reasoning for that rule is obvious).

Hmm, what does it mean right now? If I have to use less than 3 MB, I make my own Addon with the Sound-/Musicfiles (thanks to vektorboson for this idea   (Wär ich net drauf gekommen)).

I want to say something else:

The system of the competition rules are a little bit silly!

Let's look at this point:

1. there's one user who makes a 1,5 MB large mission, but he need 55 MB Addons for this!

2. Somewhere is another scripter with a 8 MB mission and only a 4 MB Addonpackage!

Now we count the size of these two different missions and their addons: the download-filesize:

1. 1,5 MB + 55 MB = 56,5 MB

2. 8 MB + 4 MB = 12 MB

And now the best:

The second mission will take out of the competition!

The reason: The mission is too large.

Very stupid.

There's something else, I don't want to make trouble in this forum   , but this is a opinion by a little mapper, who likes OFP and his possibilities. And I don't want to have a OFP editor without any freedom!  

Edit:

Ahh 5 MB, okay I think that's a deal!

Thanks for reading.

[Lin_Chino 0]

I´ll use my own music...I love u Cubase ˇ ˇ

[Placebo 29]

I think that's a deal!

Thanks for reading.

Ditto

here you go Placebo.

http://gdt.game-server.cc/~medicus/misc/infinity_1.zip

its in its early stages but it sounds good.

Thanks I'll give it a listen