Falcon Six Two 0 Posted February 21, 2004 MOLLE (Modular Lightweight Load-Bearing Equipment) is a (1999, late 90's issued) recent advancement in load bearing equipment, replacing the older ALICE system. Â If you look pictures from the WWII to the Gulf War till now you'll notice the web belt has relatively stayed the same, it has metal brackets embended in the belt, etc. Â The ALICE system involved metal clamp like devices to clip on utility pouches or straps, the MOLLE and MOLLE II systems are instead using nylon straps + buttons to secure to strips of nylon on vests, chest rigs etc, a more "modern" way of load bearing gear for soldiers. Â Though I personally think it's flawed, under the USMC some have reported the damn things to break down after 2 months. Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coporal_punishment 0 Posted February 21, 2004 Here are some more screenshots just note I'll be changing the officer hat and removing the backpack of the troops. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redhawk_six 0 Posted February 21, 2004 Looks very nice! As I said earlier, pouches are fixed directly to the body armour, so the harnesses should be removed. If you are including the Force Recon models, it should be noted that US Army Special Forces have a lot of freedom in their kit. In order to represent this, I would suggest doing things like having one model with a black SF polar fleece jacket on, another with a woodland jacket but tri-colour desert pants, etc. Here are some US Army SF photos: http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/Special_Forces-Afghanistan http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/Special_Forces-Philippines http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos...._Forces Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianTerror 0 Posted February 21, 2004 Does that woodland look a little big or is it just me? Good idea for a pack though...Id hate to see good soldier models go to waste. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coporal_punishment 0 Posted February 21, 2004 Okay here's another pic, i've used the desert trooper and amazingly when i made the cpp the goggles were gone anyway I quite liked it, I also used Suchey's vest, but I'll redo it so it doesn't have a webbing harness I also intend to redo the ammo pouches. Well anyway here's a pic of the troops Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coporal_punishment 0 Posted February 21, 2004 Does that woodland look a little big or is it just me?Good idea for a pack though...Id hate to see good soldier models go to waste. Â Yep it is a little big i'll edit it when i get the chance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SNIPER_SKULL 0 Posted February 21, 2004 looking good man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pappy Boyington 0 Posted February 21, 2004 will there be a way to replace the BIS units with these ones? ive got INQ replacing the old weapons GMR replacing the yellow puffs. now i need better soldiers replacing the orginals. not to concerned with fixing the vehicals.. cuz thier only there for me to blow up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coporal_punishment 0 Posted February 21, 2004 will there be a way to replace the BIS units with these ones?ive got INQ replacing the old weapons GMR replacing the yellow puffs. now i need better soldiers replacing the orginals. not to concerned with fixing the vehicals.. cuz thier only there for me to blow up  Funny you mention that because i would most probably be releasing a config.bin which replaced the default troops in OFP for all sides. I'll ask ORCS if i can use their airborne so the east can also have some decent troops. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pappy Boyington 0 Posted February 21, 2004 will there be a way to replace the BIS units with these ones?ive got INQ replacing the old weapons GMR replacing the yellow puffs. now i need better soldiers replacing the orginals. not to concerned with fixing the vehicals.. cuz thier only there for me to blow up  Funny you mention that because i would most probably be releasing a config.bin which replaced the default troops in OFP for all sides. I'll ask ORCS if i can use their airborne so the east can also have some decent troops. eh who needs good "east" troops? thier only there for target practice for my Kamikaze Watermelon special unit dont ask cuz it uses like 5 addons and im not askin anyones permission to release it cuz im lazy seriously thou that would be great. if possible can u release special instructions for those of use who dont want to give up our GMR, DR, INQ, Flamer, config bin? thanks for all your work on this too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ironsight 1 Posted February 21, 2004 Looking realy good finally some good (non-special forces) infantery, especialy the little block on the helmet where you can put your nvg's on, miss that by a lot of soldiers (think about animate them so you can realy lower the goggles from your helmet to your face) Keep up the good work corporal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coporal_punishment 0 Posted February 21, 2004 Looking realy good finally some good (non-special forces) infantery, especialy the little block on the helmet where you can put your nvg's on, miss that by a lot of soldiers (think about animate them so you can realy lower the goggles from your helmet to your face)Keep up the good work corporal  Btw don't thank me for the NV block on the helmet thank Suchey and his fine work, i'm only retexturing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stgn 39 Posted February 21, 2004 US soldiers One man whit interceptor and purches In group whit interceptor and purches Soldier whit IIFS 2 (LBV 88 enhanced) Soldiesr whit PASGT and MOLLE 2 Soldiesr whit interceptor and purches Soldier whit Interceptor and IIFS 2 from 2003 Again And againSoldiers whit interceptor, IIFSand one whit an assult west when did the Us Army issue MOLLE 2 ? Is it only to deployed troops or everybody ho wants it? STGN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coporal_punishment 0 Posted February 21, 2004 So should I make troops with MOLE or ALICE i would prefer MOLE becuase i don't need to model but perhaps if i don't become to busy I'll make '85 woodland troops and '91 gulf troops with ALICE Personally I don't know the difference i'm just a drunk aussie which knows Aussie troops use ALICE and don't know much about US equipment but I know a hell of a lot on US militrary structure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddmatt 1 Posted February 21, 2004 Can you make them as part of ECP so i can run both mods at once. I'm sure the ECP team will be happy about it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Landwarrior87 0 Posted February 21, 2004 So should I make troops with MOLE or ALICE i would prefer MOLE becuase i don't need to model but perhaps if i don't become to busy I'll make '85 woodland troops and '91 gulf troops with ALICE you should take your time at it, one step at a time... make them with whatever they use now.. o and i noticed in your pics they all have M16's... not a good idea because most units have already started using nothing but the M4.. i think Earl's regular M4 and the Grenade Launchers variants are the best choice to put on the soldiers... just equip all of them with the regular M4. leave it to mission makers to put all the optics on or whatever. these r gonna so kick so much ass.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSpencer 0 Posted February 21, 2004 I told Cpl Punishment about the problem regarding the 8-point cover, as opposed to the no-point smooth cover. Surprised I'm the only one to catch it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrunchyFrog 0 Posted February 21, 2004 Will these troops going to be armed with "updated" weapons? M16A2 M16A2+M203 M240B M24 M249 M136 AT-4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reconmercs 0 Posted February 21, 2004 So should I make troops with MOLE or ALICE i would prefer MOLE becuase i don't need to model but perhaps if i don't become to busy I'll make '85 woodland troops and '91 gulf troops with ALICE you should take your time at it, one step at a time... make them with whatever they use now.. o and i noticed in your pics they all have M16's... not a good idea because most units have already started using nothing but the M4.. i think Earl's regular M4 and the Grenade Launchers variants are the best choice to put on the soldiers... just equip all of them with the regular M4. leave it to mission makers to put all the optics on or whatever. these r gonna so kick so much ass.. actually against popular belief..the M16 is still widely used by the army...the regular M4(3 round burst capable) is used mostly by the airborne, 10th mountain and some others...maybe a mix would be better than giving every soldier an M4 or M16 and make sure if you use an M4 it's 3 round burst...only special operation units use the full auto capable versions.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted February 21, 2004 Whats wrong with using Earl's weapons? They're the best out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reconmercs 0 Posted February 21, 2004 I like Earls weapons too and they are the best our there..I was just sayin since M4s were being suggested that not every grunt outta basic is issued a ninjaed out M4..if they get one it's the 3 round burst version..so maybe a modding of Earls M4 would work...but yeah I agree his weapons are the best we've seen as a community Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianTerror 0 Posted February 21, 2004 Using Earl's weapons is a great idea, I know i "re-issue" all my addons with either INQ or Earl weapons. much better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Landwarrior87 0 Posted February 21, 2004 reconmercs, you got a website that states information of a "Burst Only" M4? outta my time playing flashpoint and following the us army ive never heard of it... or atleast being in wide use like that.. why make it only 3 round burst if you lose accuracy.. why not just keep the m16? im not doubting it, i just want to read up on it to see whats the point of making a m4 only 3rnd burst. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted February 21, 2004 The M-4 has the 3-round burst. The M-4A1 is full auto. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Landwarrior87 0 Posted February 21, 2004 http://world.guns.ru/assault/as17-e.htm Quote[/b] ]For this purpose M4 was latter modified with the M16A3-style flat-top receiver with integral Picatinny-type accessory rail instead of the M16A2/M4-type integral carrying handle. The other change in the M4A1, when compared to M4, is that its trigger unit is modified to fire full-auto instead of the three shots bursts. ok all there... so wait wait wait.. still a bit confused.. which one does the US army use... out of all the games i played ive NEVER played with a 3rd burst ONLY m4, some games had a 3rnd and full auto.. but then again just not very realistic... ive never played with a 3rd burst only M4. so which one does the US Army use? M4 or M4A1? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites