Us presidential election 2004

[theavonlady 2]

Talking about tan, Bush has kept more vacation during his presidency than 4 last US presidents before him together.

And the beat goes on......................

Quote[/b] ]Bush Vacations

Deceits 6-7

Fahrenheit 9/11 states, "In his first eight months in office before September 11th, George W. Bush was on vacation, according to the Washington Post, forty-two percent of the time."

Shortly before 9/11, the Post calculated that Bush had spent 42 percent of his presidency at vacation spots or en route, including all or part of 54 days at his ranch. That calculation, however, includes weekends, which Moore failed to mention.

Tom McNamee, "Just the facts on ‘Fahrenheit 9/11’ Chicago Sun-Times, June 28, 2004. See also: Mike Allen, "White House On the Range. Bush Retreats to Ranch for ‘Working Vacation’," Washington Post, August 7, 2001 Many of those days are weekends, and the Camp David stays have included working visits with foreign leaders. Since the Eisenhower administration, Presidents have usually spent many weekends at Camp David, which is fully equipped for Presidential work. Once the Camp David time is excluded, Bush's "vacation" time drops to 13 percent.

Much of that 13 percent was spent on Bush's ranch in Texas. Reader Scott Marquardt looked into a random week of Bush's August 2001 "vacation." Using public documents from www.whitehouse.gov, here is what he found:

Monday, August 20

Spoke concerning the budget while visiting a high school in Independence, Missouri.

Spoke at the annual Veteran's of Foreign Wars convention in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

Signed six bills into law.

Announced his nominees for Chief Financial Officer of the Department of Agriculture, Assistant Secretary of the Army for Financial Management, member of the Federal Housing Finance Board, Assistant Secretary of Labor for Disabled Employment Policy, U.S. Representative to the General Assembly of the U.N., and Assistant Administrator of the U.S. Agency for International Development for the Bureau of Humanitarian Response.

Spoke with workers at the Harley Davidson factory.

Dined with Kansas Governor Bill Graves, discussing politics.

Tuesday, August 21

Took press questions at a Target store in Kansas City, Missouri.

Spoke with Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chretien on the matter of free trade and tariffs on Canadian lumber.

Wednesday, August 22

Met with Karen Hughes, Condi Rice, and Josh Bolten, and other staff (more than one meeting).

Conferenced with Mexico's president for about 20 minutes on the phone. They discussed Argentina's economy and the International Monetary fund's role in bringing sustainability to the region. They also talked about immigration and Fox's planned trip to Washington.

Communicated with Margaret LaMontagne, who was heading up a series of immigration policy meetings.

Released the Mid-Session Review, a summary of the economic outlook for the next decade, as well as of the contemporary economy and budget.

Announced nomination and appointment intentions for Ambassador to Vietnam, two for the Commission on Fine Arts, six to serve on the Commission on the Future of the United States Aerospace Industry, three for the Advisory Committee to the Pension Benefits Guaranty Corporation, one to the Board of Directors of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, and one to the National Endowments for the Arts.

Issued a Presidential Determination ordering a military drawdown for Tunisia.

Issued a statement regarding the retirement of Jesse Helms.

Thursday, August 23

Briefly spoke with the press.

Visited Crawford Elementary School, fielded questions from students.

Friday, August 24

Officials arrived from Washington at 10:00 AM. Shortly thereafter, at a press conference, Bush announced that General Richard B. Myers will be the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and General Pete Pac will serve as Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. He also announced 14 other appointments, and his intentions for the budget. At 11:30 AM these officials, as well as National Security Council experts, the Secretary of Defense, and others, met with Bush to continue the strategic review process for military transformation (previous meetings have been held at the Pentagon and the White House). The meeting ended at 5:15.

Met with Andy Card and Karen Hughes, talking about communications issues.

Issued a proclamation honoring Women's Equality Day.

Saturday, August 25

Awoke at 5:45 AM, read daily briefs.

Had an hour-long CIA and national security briefing at 7:45

Gave his weekly radio address on the topic of The Budget.

Having shown a clip from August 25 with Bush explaining how he likes to work on the ranch, Moore announces "George Bush spent the rest of the August at the ranch." Not so, as Scott Marquardt found by looking at Bush's activity for the very next day.

Sunday, August 26

Speaks at the Little League World Series in Williamsport, Pennsylvania.

Speaks at the U.S. Steel Group Steelworkers Picnic at Mon Valley Works, southeast of Pittsburgh. He also visits some employees still working, not at the picnic.

Marquandt looked up Bush's activities for the next three days:

Declared a major disaster area in Ohio and orders federal aid. This affects Brown, Butler, Clermont and Hamilton counties.

Sent a report on progress toward a "solution of the Cyprus question" to the Speaker of the House and the Chairman of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations.

Announced his intention to nominate Kathleen Burton Clarke to be Director of the Bureau of Land Management (Department of the Interior).

Spoke at the American Legion's 83rd annual convention in San Antonio, discussing defense priorities. Decommissioned the Air Force One jet that flew 444 missions, from the Nixon administration to Bush's retirement ceremony for the plane in Waco, Texas.

Attended the dedication ceremony of the San Antonio Missions National Historical Park in San Antonio.

Announced appointment of 13 members of the Presidential Task Force to Improve Health Care Delivery for Our Nations Veterans.

It is true in a sense that the Presidency is a "24/7" job. But this does not mean that the President should be working every minute. A literal "24/7" job would mean that the President should be criticized for "sleeping on the job 33 percent of the time" if he slept for eight hours a day.

Christopher Hitchens notes:

[T]he shot of him "relaxing at Camp David" shows him side by side with Tony Blair. I say "shows," even though this photograph is on-screen so briefly that if you sneeze or blink, you won’t recognize the other figure. A meeting with the prime minister of the United Kingdom, or at least with this prime minister, is not a goof-off.

The president is also captured in a well-worn TV news clip, on a golf course, making a boilerplate response to a question on terrorism and then asking the reporters to watch his drive. Well, that’s what you get if you catch the president on a golf course.

Christopher Hitchens, "Unfairenheit 9/11: The lies of Michael Moore," Slate.com, June 21, 2004. (Some of Moore's defenders have denounced Hitchens as a member of the vast-right wing conspiracy. Hitchens, however, wrote an obituary of Ronald Reagan recalling his lone meeting with Reagan, when he asked a question which made Reagan angry: "The famously genial grin turned into a rictus of senile fury: I was looking at a cruel and stupid lizard." Hitchens also wrote a book and produced a movie, The Trials of Henry Kissinger, urging that Kissinger be tried for war crimes.)

By the way, the clip of Bush making a comment about terrorism, and then hitting a golf ball, is also taken out of context, at least partially:

Tuesday night on FNC’s Special Report with Brit Hume, Brian Wilson noted how "the viewer is left with the misleading impression Mr. Bush is talking about al-Qaeda terrorists." But Wilson disclosed that "a check of the raw tape reveals the President is talking about an attack against Israel, carried out by a Palestinian suicide bomber."

"Cyberalert," Media Research Center, July 1, 2004, item. 3.

Interestingly, as detailed in Bill Clinton's autobiography My Life, in November 1995. when President Clinton learned that Israel's Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin had been shot, Clinton went out to the White House lawn and hit golf balls while he waited to learn if Rabin would live. That Clinton played golf after learning of a terrible crime in Israel obviously does not mean that he did not care about the crime. If a television station had recorded some footage of Clinton hitting golf balls that awful night, it would have easy for a hyper-partisan film-maker to use the footage against Clinton unfairly.

Moore wraps up the vacation segment: "It was a summer to remember. And when it was over, he left Texas for his second favorite place." The movie then shows Bush in Florida. Actually, he went back to Washington, where he gave a speech on August 31.

[Moore response: Accurately quotes the Washington Post: "if you add up all his weekends at Camp David, layovers at Kennebunkport and assorted to-ing and fro-ing, W. will have spent 42 percent of his presidency 'at vacation spots or en route.'" Does not attempt to defend Fahrenheit's mischaracterization of the Post's meaning. Does not explain why the Israeli context was removed from the Bush quote. Does not defend the claim that Bush went from Texas to Florida.]

Fifty-nine Deceits in Fahrenheit 9/11

Which reminds me................... I need some shuteye.

[Supah 0]

You wants us to invade Nigeria to help lower the prices...

I guess Bush controls the weather or something...  

Ok apparently you have to be painfully obvious with you people. Had TBA not started Dicking about in the middle east Oil would never have reached these heights. The nigerian trouble would have had far less a impact. The majority of this rise in prices is due to the middle east falling capacity to produce oil because of TBA's war. That war is costing you not just the lives of more and more troops but now billions of dollars, not just on oil but on stuff like plastics too of which oil is the raw material. Steel and everything that needs moved anywhere will be more expensive. Everything from crops to chewinggum, from airtravel to mail. Everything things like steel are used in, cars etc., will be come more expensive. It will all become more and more expensive all due to TBA's ill-concieved invasion of Iraq. This war will start to hit you in the wallet more and more. Add to that the rising cost of the war and the effect it has had on your deficit .... still think there is nothing bush can do about it? Or is that all ok because Kerry once farted in a elevator in the late 70's ?

[m21man 0]

Quote[/b] ]Or is that all ok because Kerry once farted in a elevator in the late 70's ?

He did? Actually, I rather like the sound of "John Farting Kerry"

[turms 0]

I dont see anything in the Avons post that conflicys my claim.

[m21man 0]

Quote[/b] ]I dont see anything in the Avons post that conflicys my claim.

Because you're reading very literally. The point of Avon's post was that Bush's vacations still contain plenty of work. They're most certainly working vacations.

Your claim should be put into perspective, and that was the purpose of Avon's post. Refusing to put something in perspective is what conservatives are supposed to do .

[Balschoiw 0]

In the movie Bush says:

"Well it may look like I´m on holidays, but you know...I´m doing things...like signing stuff and such...you know even today *turns back to advisor*...what will I sign today ?...*little talk*...you know I´ll be signing some stuff even today...some laws and such..."

Great thing Bushy signing stuff he doesn´t even know about. Yeah, that must be the president of choice....

Quote[/b] ]They're most certainly working vacations.

Haha yes ! Sure...

I´d earn a hell lot of money if I could declare such as work....

[m21man 0]

Quote[/b] ]"Well it may look like I´m on holidays, but you know...I´m doing things...like signing stuff and such...you know even today *turns back to advisor*...what will I sign today ?...*little talk*...you know I´ll be signing some stuff even today...some laws and such..."

Are those "..."s pauses in his speech, or marks representing those Moore editing jobs that we've come to know and love?

Quote[/b] ]I´d earn a hell lot of money if I could declare such as work....

You mean ordinary people can't make money by sitting around in an office all day? Well I never!

Besides, an important part of the presidential job could be summed up as "signing stuff". Bush doesn't put on a cape and fly around when he goes to Washington, he goes back to the White House and, well, signs stuff.

[Akira 0]

Quote[/b] ]"No Blood For Oil!"

Damn, we should have invaded Nigeria instead...

Yeah thats hilarious. So hilarious 1000+ service men and women have died laughing you ass.

Quote[/b] ]8.7% (838,000 barrels a day) from Nigeria in 2003 which is fifth and that was increase from 2002....

I did not highlight that because everybody knows that (the middle crap)...

Barrels a day in 2003 to the United States....

1 Saudi Arabia 1,726

2 Mexico 1,569

3 Canada 1,549

4 Venezuela 1,183

5 Nigeria 832

6 Iraq 481

Yeah thanks. Thats almost exactly what I said. Thanks for proving my point.

Quote[/b] ]He did? Actually, I rather like the sound of "John Farting Kerry"

Way to ignore everything and prove once again you are only in high school. Thanks for your oh so intelligent discourse.

Quote[/b] ]Besides, an important part of the presidential job could be summed up as "signing stuff". Bush doesn't put on a cape and fly around when he goes to Washington, he goes back to the White House and, well, signs stuff.

Wow. I hope US Government is a requirement for graduation because you obviously slept through class. Maybe its you that should have "4 more years".

[Balschoiw 0]

Quote[/b] ]Are those "..."s pauses in his speech, or marks representing those Moore editing jobs that we've come to know and love?

Pauses...he doesn´t look extremely smart in this part of the movie. It´s a straight scene, no cutting, no editing.

Quote[/b] ]You mean ordinary people can't make money by sitting around in an office all day? Well I never!

Besides that you are not the one to decide about abortion, gay marriage bans and little wars in minor countries, are you ?

And increase your golf handicap while you do so ?

Bush has never been known as the most working person on this planet. In fact when he started to work things got bad for his emloyees. He doesn´t really have a record of sucessfull businesses to show, has he ? Show me some.

Quote[/b] ]Besides, an important part of the presidential job could be summed up as "signing stuff".

The grin on his face while telling this does indeed indicate that he doesn´t have the slightest idea what he will do this afternoon others than playing golf...

And yes, you´re right signng stuff is important. But one should know what he´s signing. Looks like Bush missed that intellectual chances more than one time. He may be a big signer, but I really doubt he understood half of the things he signed....

He´s not known to be the smartest guy of the club.

Again, proove me different

Quote[/b] ]Maybe its you that should have "4 more years".

Haha, good one. Yeah, would be definately cool to show those "I support my president whatever asshole he may be" that there are more ideas on uniting the planet than going to war with a guy who could be main actor at the MAD show.

Edit:

Oh and for a really good laugh visit the US embassy in Iraq webpage. It´s priceless.

US embassy in the democratic Iraq

Quote[/b] ]Washington -- With Iraqi national elections approaching, the State Department has begun implementing a $10 million grant program in which several nonprofit organizations are training Iraqi women in the skills and practices of democratic life

Haha great !

[m21man 0]

Quote[/b] ]Yeah thats hilarious. So hilarious 1000+ service men and women have died laughing you ass.

That's a rather dramatic change in subject. You start defending the idea of a US -> Nigerian war, and then the moment I wonder why Mr. "No-Blood-For-Oil" has started to defend the very concept that he abhors, you decide that the best defensive move is to call me an ass. What do the deaths of American soldiers have to do with your advocating combat to lower oil prices?

Unless your talking about the Nigeria comment, which was meant to be sarcastic. Shall I frame all my sentences with little toneboxes so that your serious, mature mind can understand when I'm being sarcastic?

Quote[/b] ]Way to ignore everything and prove once again you are only in high school. Thanks for your oh so intelligent discourse.

I see Turmsy has escaped your Holy Wrath, and he's the one who decided that Republicans are concerned with whether Kerry flatulated in an elevator in the late 70s (Which is almost a direct quote). I don't care, in conversation I refer to him as "Kerry". Do you actually think I was serious when I said I liked the name "John Farting Kerry"? I meant it as exaggeration, just as I hope Turms was exaggerating.

Note - Perhaps your assumption was reasonable. After all, it's a known fact that your typical high-school male is a paragon of sophistication and seriousness.

Quote[/b] ]Wow. I hope US Government is a requirement for graduation because you obviously slept through class. Maybe its you that should have "4 more years".

"Summed up". How would you summarize the work that a President does in Washington into two words ? With some more words, I would say "Makes speeches, tries to wheedle Congress into agreeing with him, creates executive orders, and supports/opposes legislation." In fact, that's still a rather simplistic summary. Maybe: "Heads executive branch, exercises legislative/judicial powers, commands the military."

I'm sorry, but I do not possess your infinite wisdom and implied ability to compress a detailed description of the Presidency into two words.

[m21man 0]

Quote[/b] ]SAN FRANCISCO - John Walker Lindh asked President Bush on Tuesday to commute his 20-year prison sentence for aiding the Taliban.

His lawyer, James Brosnahan, said that Lindh was fighting alongside the Taliban in a civil war against the Northern Alliance, that he is not a terrorist and that he never fought against U.S. troops.

Brosnahan said the sentence should be reduced because Yaser Esam Hamdi, another American citizen captured in Afghanistan (news - web sites) on suspicion of aiding the Taliban, is being released after being held for three years as an enemy combatant.

Hamdi will not be charged with any crime under an agreement with federal officials made public Monday. Hamdi will be required to give up his U.S. citizenship and will be sent to Saudi Arabia, where he grew up.

"Comparable conduct should be treated in comparable ways in terms of sentencing," Brosnahan said at a news conference.

The White House referred calls to the Justice Department (news - web sites). Justice Department spokesman Mark Corallo, while not commenting directly on the merits of Lindh's request, pointed out that Lindh "pleaded guilty to supporting the Taliban with his lawyers standing beside him."

"The Taliban was a brutal regime that harbored and assisted al-Qaida," Corallo said. "It should be pointed out we are currently engaged in a global war on terrorism against al-Qaida and remnants of the Taliban."

Lindh's request does not specify how much of a reduction he is seeking.

Lindh, a 23-year-old Northern California native, pleaded guilty in civilian court to supplying services to the now-defunct Taliban government and carrying explosives for them. He and Hamdi were both captured in late 2001.

Brosnahan said he negotiated the 20-year sentence during a time when a "highest state of fear" was affecting U.S. juries and he thought it was the best deal he could get at the time. He could have gotten life in prison if convicted.

Frank Zimring, a University of California, Berkeley, legal scholar and an expert on clemency, said it is unlikely the president will reduce Lindh's term, especially during a presidential election focused on the war on terror.

"The morning line on the commutation of a sentence of this kind in a middle of a presidential election is one of those situations where London bookies would offer you millions of pounds for just a shilling or two," he said.

Lindh's mother, Marilyn Walker, said her son "has never had any sympathy or involvement in terrorist activity."

In all, the president has commuted the terms of two prisoners, both on May 20.

The president commuted the sentence of Bobby Mac Berry, of Burlington, N.C., who had been sentenced to nine years in prison in 1997 for marijuana and money laundering convictions.

Bush also commuted the sentence of Geraldine Gordon, convicted in Las Vegas of a drug distribution charge in 1989 and sentenced to 20 years in prison. Gordon's release was effective Sept. 20.

[turms 0]

Gnite.

[SpongeBob 0]

Vote Republican and let's feast on babies together

[blackdog~ 0]

And that's supposed to be...

PS: There was a kid who ate babies in my PE class once. Well, in theory. But he always got super pissed off when we said he ate babies.

[billybob2002 0]

Quote[/b] ]Yeah thanks. Thats almost exactly what I said. Thanks for proving my point.

erm no....The other nations would have to pick up Nigeria 832,000 barrels a day. If they do not pick the extra 832,000 barrels, millions of barrels of oil in less than week would be lost....

[Balschoiw 0]

Thank god you have waterproof contracts with Iraqi oil now.

Funny...the only thing that get´s fixed within seconds when blown up are the pipelines in Iraq....

Ahhh...by the way , where is the money, how much money is used from the fund for Iraq´s rebuilding ?

Just a little question. I´d be happy if you can provide numbers and the way the money from the Iraqi oil fund is spent. Or is the money taken to finance US war in Iraq ?

Another funny chapter of the TBA. Let people pay for their own killing.

Good night !

[Akira 0]

Quote[/b] ]That's a rather dramatic change in subject. You start defending the idea of a US -> Nigerian war, and then the moment I wonder why Mr. "No-Blood-For-Oil" has started to defend the very concept that he abhors, you decide that the best defensive move is to call me an ass. What do the deaths of American soldiers have to do with your advocating combat to lower oil prices?

I see your reading comprehension is in just a sorry state as your US Government.

I'll leave it to you to go back and read what I said and to figure it out...

Hint---> Sarcasm

Quote[/b] ]I see Turmsy has escaped your Holy Wrath, and he's the one who decided that Republicans are concerned with whether Kerry flatulated in an elevator in the late 70s (Which is almost a direct quote). I don't care, in conversation I refer to him as "Kerry". Do you actually think I was serious when I said I liked the name "John Farting Kerry"? I meant it as exaggeration, just as I hope Turms was exaggerating.

Please oh please tell me you are not going out into the voting general public with your unbelievable lack of reading comprehension and subject focus.

Try this.

Read the paragraph before the "fart" comment. In fact don't even pay attention to the obviously sarcastic in reference to the tan story comment. (but sadly it wasn't obvious enough for you. Reading comprehension used to be a prerequisite for graduation from HS when I was in school. Welcome to Bush's America.)

In the end the result is you had no rebuttal other than focusing on flatulence.

Quote[/b] ]"Summed up". How would you summarize the work that a President does in Washington into two words ? With some more words, I would say "Makes speeches, tries to wheedle Congress into agreeing with him, creates executive orders, and supports/opposes legislation." In fact, that's still a rather simplistic summary. Maybe: "Heads executive branch, exercises legislative/judicial powers, commands the military."

I wouldn't try to sum it up in two words for starters. And if I did it certainly wouldn't be "sign stuff."

But in Bush's case maybe I could...

"Yes, Cheney."

Easier than I thought....

Quote[/b] ]I'm sorry, but I do not possess your infinite wisdom and implied ability to compress a detailed description of the Presidency into two words.

It's alright. Not all of us can. Give it a few years...

Quote[/b] ]erm no....The other nations would have to pick up Nigeria 832,000 barrels a day. If they do not pick the extra 832,000 barrels, millions of barrels of oil in less than week would be lost....

You forget. Though there may be a millions after the "barrel" part, in the end it is still 8%. Now granted that will, thanks to "speculators" ("I think I will speculate me some money.") that will drive up costs and in the end affect our economy, it shouldn't. It is the Middle East and Iraq, not Nigeria (no one cares about Africa remember?) that is affecting oil prices. It's easy to point to Nigeria and blame them while insuregents in our ME mess continue to blow Iraqi pipelines...

Good thing its not about oil...

[Supah 0]

Quote[/b] ]Way to ignore everything and prove once again you are only in high school. Thanks for your oh so intelligent discourse.

I see Turmsy has escaped your Holy Wrath, and he's the one who decided that Republicans are concerned with whether Kerry flatulated in an elevator in the late 70s (Which is almost a direct quote). I don't care, in conversation I refer to him as "Kerry". Do you actually think I was serious when I said I liked the name "John Farting Kerry"? I meant it as exaggeration, just as I hope Turms was exaggerating.

Note - Perhaps your assumption was reasonable. After all, it's a known fact that your typical high-school male is a paragon of sophistication and seriousness.

Turmsy? That was me AFAIK Good thing to see how well you are reading what you are replying too though

[kerosene 0]

[Oh and for a really good laugh visit the US embassy in Iraq webpage. It´s priceless.

US embassy in the democratic Iraq

]

Did you see the "citizen exchange" and "educational oppurtunites" links at bottom of the page?

Any takers?

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

I apologise for this "german" version.. I would translate it but I have to leave for 30 minutes... maybe later

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Code Sample </td></tr><tr><td id="CODE">In vielen Bundesstaaten beklagen sich Studenten, dass sie Schwierigkeiten haben, zu den kommenden Präsidentschaftswahlen zugelassen zu werden. Und da es offensichtlich ist, dass Kerry der Favorit bei den Jungwählern ist, liegt die Vermutung der Wahlmanipulation natürlich nahe.

Die US-Wahlen 2000 in Florida haben gezeigt: Nur wenige tausend Stimmen könnten über den nächsten Präsidenten entscheiden. Und nun weigern sich einige Wahllokale, Studenten zuzulassen. Die Begründung: Studierende, die in einem Studentenwohnheim leben, haben keine dauerhafte Adresse. Genau diese wird aber benötigt, um sich registrieren zu lassen. Die Alternative für die Geschädigten: Einfach in die, zum Teil einige Flugstunden entfernte, Heimatstadt fliegen und dort wählen. Eine Briefwahl für Erstwähler ist nämlich nicht in allen Bundesstaaten möglich. Auch umständliche Fragebögen oder die Schließung von Wahllokalen rufen die Kritiker auf den Plan. Genau wie Wahlunterlagen, in denen Studenten ihre finanzielle Situation offenlegen müssen, die dann dementsprechend selten ausgefüllt werden.

Der Grund für derartige Einschränkungen erscheint aber zumindest teilweise logisch: Gerade in kleinen Städten mit einem hohem Anteil an Studenten grassiert ein wenig die Angst, dass das Jungvolk die Lokalpolitik zu stark beeinflussen könnte. Und da die Registrierung für die Präsidentschaftswahlen zugleich auch für die Lokalwahlen gilt, erscheint es etwas nachvollziehbarer, warum diese den Studenten derart erschwert wird. Außerdem stellte Jennifer Weiser, Rechtsberaterin an der New York University, fest: "solche Probleme sind vereinzelt wohl schon bei früheren Wahlen aufgetreten, aber es gab noch nie so eine Häufung von Fällen wie in diesem Jahr. Das hängt vermutlich damit zusammen, dass sich mehr Studenten als sonst registrieren." Und: Nicht zuletzt durch diese Vorfälle interessieren sich immer mehr junge Menschen für Politik. Einer Erhebung zufolge wollen immerhin 83 Prozent zur Wahl gehen.

[Supah 0]

I apologise for this "german" version.. I would translate it but I have to leave for 30 minutes... maybe later

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Code Sample </td></tr><tr><td id="CODE">In vielen Bundesstaaten beklagen sich Studenten, dass sie Schwierigkeiten haben, zu den kommenden Präsidentschaftswahlen zugelassen zu werden. Und da es offensichtlich ist, dass Kerry der Favorit bei den Jungwählern ist, liegt die Vermutung der Wahlmanipulation natürlich nahe.

Die US-Wahlen 2000 in Florida haben gezeigt: Nur wenige tausend Stimmen könnten über den nächsten Präsidenten entscheiden. Und nun weigern sich einige Wahllokale, Studenten zuzulassen. Die Begründung: Studierende, die in einem Studentenwohnheim leben, haben keine dauerhafte Adresse. Genau diese wird aber benötigt, um sich registrieren zu lassen. Die Alternative für die Geschädigten: Einfach in die, zum Teil einige Flugstunden entfernte, Heimatstadt fliegen und dort wählen. Eine Briefwahl für Erstwähler ist nämlich nicht in allen Bundesstaaten möglich. Auch umständliche Fragebögen oder die Schließung von Wahllokalen rufen die Kritiker auf den Plan. Genau wie Wahlunterlagen, in denen Studenten ihre finanzielle Situation offenlegen müssen, die dann dementsprechend selten ausgefüllt werden.

Der Grund für derartige Einschränkungen erscheint aber zumindest teilweise logisch: Gerade in kleinen Städten mit einem hohem Anteil an Studenten grassiert ein wenig die Angst, dass das Jungvolk die Lokalpolitik zu stark beeinflussen könnte. Und da die Registrierung für die Präsidentschaftswahlen zugleich auch für die Lokalwahlen gilt, erscheint es etwas nachvollziehbarer, warum diese den Studenten derart erschwert wird. Außerdem stellte Jennifer Weiser, Rechtsberaterin an der New York University, fest: "solche Probleme sind vereinzelt wohl schon bei früheren Wahlen aufgetreten, aber es gab noch nie so eine Häufung von Fällen wie in diesem Jahr. Das hängt vermutlich damit zusammen, dass sich mehr Studenten als sonst registrieren." Und: Nicht zuletzt durch diese Vorfälle interessieren sich immer mehr junge Menschen für Politik. Einer Erhebung zufolge wollen immerhin 83 Prozent zur Wahl gehen.

My approximate translation (not german)

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Code Sample </td></tr><tr><td id="CODE"> In many states students have complained that they have had difficulties registering to vote for the coming presidential election. Because Kerry is the clearly more popular with younger voters the suspicion of vote manipulation is close.

The 2000 elections in florida have shown that a few 1000 votes can make a large difference in the coming elections. Now a few voting offices have refused to allow students. The excuse: Students living on a campus dont have a permanent adress which is needed to register to vote. The alternative is to vote in ones home town which can be hours away by plane. Casting a absentee ballot isn't posibble in all states. Also overly complicated questionaires (not certain about thhis one) and strange closing hours of voting offices are drawing criticisme. Just as election forms (euh?) in which student have to explain their entire financial situation, which often dont get filled in.

The ground for these constrictions does appear partly logical. Mainly in small towns with allot of students the fear has grown that the young people will start to influence local politics too much. The registration for the presidential elections uses rules made for those local elections its not strange that students are having trouble registering. Also, said Jennifer Weiser, Lgeal advisor to the New York University, "Such problems have occured in earlier elections but then the election wasn't so closely contested. This may cause more students to register to vote." because of this more and more young people have started to take an interest in politics. Polls show that 83% of them is planning to vote.

Pfew! Highschool german classes sure were long ago

[billybob2002 0]

Action Jackson has returned to presidental politics..

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tm....ckson_1

Quote[/b] ]

Jackson Joins Kerry Campaign As Adviser

Wed Sep 29,11:04 AM ET  

WASHINGTON - Civil rights activist Jesse Jackson joined the campaign of Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) on Wednesday as a poll showed support for the presidential candidate slipping among black Americans, a critical Democratic constituency.

The Pew Research Center said Tuesday its latest poll showed 73 percent of blacks supporting Kerry compared to 12 percent supporting President Bush (news - web sites). In 2000, Al Gore (news - web sites) won 90 percent of the black vote.

Democratic groups have aired campaign ads criticizing Republican efforts to woo black voters.

The Kerry campaign said Jackson, who will serve as a senior adviser, will travel to battleground states to energize Democratic support for Kerry and running mate John Edwards (news - web sites).

I wonder if he is doing this for free...

[BoweryBaker 0]

I don't think Jesse Jackson would dislike Kerry. Most people with color don't like Bush from my personal encounters.

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

wow supah.. I seriously believe this has been well translated  

[kerosene 0]

Whos goona watch the Bush - Kerry debate?

I saw some of Bush's interview with Bill O'reilly and he had a hard time even with O'reilly throwing him non-stop softballs, i can see him drifting off on weird tangents or answering a slightly different question to the one he's asked if he has a tough time.