Taconic 0 Posted November 3, 2004 AND HOW COME YOUR SO BLOODY PICKY WHEN IT COMES TO KERRYS FUTURE POLICYS WHICH HE HASNT EVEN BEEN GIVEN THE CHANCE YET TO IMPLEMENT ...are you actually being serious? What exactly are you supposed to elect an official based upon? What they had for breakfast? What they did on May 7th, 1975? Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought that people elected officials based upon what they were going to do in the future. Quote ]ALL THE WHILE GIVING BUSH the FREE HEADSUP TO DO EVERYTHING FROM declaring WAR on countries under FALSE pretences to TAX CUT FOR RICHES , WHY NOT QUESTION THAT FOR ONCE? ITS BEEN GOING ON FOR 2-3 YEARS NOW? How HYPOCRITE i might ADD.</b> 1: I stated that I did not vote for Bush. I did not vote for Bush in 2000, either. I did not "give" Bush anything, thank you. 2: I do not support the Bush administration. I do question George Bush, his policies, and his motivations. In fact, I oppose George Bush on many points. However, I am attempting to make a point about Kerry, not Bush. This, folks, is why I stay away from these threads. People enjoy overlooking what you've said and putting words in your mouth if they don't happen to agree with you wholeheartedly. I think that it's pretty clear that I am unpartisan, yet I have been labeled a Republican and a hypocrite that has given Bush free licence to do as he pleases because... ...because I expressed my belief that Kerry did not sell himself hard enough to a demographic that could have gotten him elected. I think that I'm done here. This is pointless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acecombat 0 Posted November 3, 2004 I am sorry i didnt account you as a rep. but the way you kept coming strongly at kerry with pointslike those which have been already discussed tens of times over and with this crappy election result some of us like me are a bit pissed off and might take any such posts as yours by someone from the conservative Bush supporting side. Quote[/b] ]Bush was the incumbent. He did not have be nearly as proactive as Kerry for that reason and that reason alone. I'm not attacking Kerry here. I'm simply stating that he could have been more proactive in regards to the general public. SO whats the result ? American economy sinking lower? Dollar going down to the euro? Could Kerry make it even worse dont think so unless he was planning on something really drastic and dastardly against his very country. You see this is what pisses me off a guy whos failed in everything nearly isnt criticised much but the guy coming in HAS to DETAIL every minute detail he has to please you, for gods sake he couldnt be lower then BUSH this much was guarenteed by his brief plans and his over all character , he just didnt look that kind of person and so does his record says. But he and his policys need to pass a razor edge test before everyone else. Its like that Dog story who has this one bone in his mouth sees his reflection in the mirror and think wow another bone i need to get that one from that dog and then barks and drops his own in the water and is eventually left with nothing. Beggars cant be chosers dont go nitpicking on him if the other guy is failed atleast give him a chance he hasnt failed yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walker 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Hi all Well I just had a real good puke. America has chosen its leaders for the next four years. And I? Well I feel sorry for the world and sadder for America. As you sow, so shall you reap. Kind Regards Walker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybob2002 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Hi allWell I just had a real good puke. RalphWiggum better say sorry! Quote[/b] ]Well I feel sorry for the world and sadder for America.As you sow, so shall you reap. Kind Regards Walker Why can some of you not try to push the restart button? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
der bastler 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Oh dear, four more years... Will this planet survive? --- On the other hand, that will strengthen our exports, with a steady-weak dollar... (ever trying to see something good in bad events) --- P.S.: Just one last question: What's so hard about making a cross on a piece of paper? Is it that hard that one needs machines to do the job? SCNR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Architekt 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Let me add to your'e pile of chunder As the world sighs, I'm glad I'm not a yank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybob2002 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Quote[/b] ]P.S.: Just one last question: What's so hard about making a cross on a piece of paper? Is it that hard that one needs machines to do the job?SCNR Because we want to be advance.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hit_Sqd_Maximus 0 Posted November 3, 2004 This thread is starting to sound like a broken record. "Oh no, Bush was elected. The sky is falling!" "Nuh uh, BUSH IS THE ROXOR AND LIBERALS SUCK!!!1" Jesus, some of you guys need to chill out. Like Navy eel said, there will be a ton of changes in the next 4 years. Who knows how things are going to go with Bush, and who knows how things would have gone if Kerry had become president. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
der bastler 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Quote[/b] ]P.S.: Just one last question: What's so hard about making a cross on a piece of paper? Is it that hard that one needs machines to do the job?SCNR Because we want to be advance.. Good joke. No, seriously, why employ voting machines? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blake 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Like Navy eel said, there will be a ton of changes in the next 4 years Maybe. Just maybe. Or thinking of it: His methods got a big approval now, why would he need to change anything on his second term? Quote[/b] ]Who knows how things are going to go with Bush At least people knew how (or had some kind of gut feeling) how were they with Bush. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybob2002 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Good joke.No, seriously, why employ voting machines? Because we want to be advance (i.e. e-gov) and have very fast results.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baphomet 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Not surprised by this, however I'm a little disgusted with Kerry. Even if Bush does fuck up this term, what can anyone really say? "Well you know... Kerry ducked out..." What a pansy Kerry is for crying out loud. Even if he was going to lose. Take it like a man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
der bastler 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Like Navy eel said, there will be a ton of changes in the next 4 years. Who knows how things are going to go with Bush, and who knows how things would have gone if Kerry had become president. We will see. There is still much terrorism left to smoke out plus some awful baaaad countries to bring freedom to. Interesting times, btw. Must get some popcorn... oh, and a good armchair. In diesem Sinne... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killagee 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Let me add to your'e pile of chunder As the world sighs, I'm glad I'm not a yank. Agreed. just slightly over half the people whose eyes you look into when you walk down the street in the USA are going to be guilty of whatever comes next...:( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
der bastler 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Because we want to be advance (i.e. e-gov) and have very fast results.. Well, e-results may be very fast, but are they provable? Regarding the importance of this election I'd have assumed you wanted to use the most effective, clear and transparent way to vote --cross-on-paper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shinRaiden 0 Posted November 3, 2004 And the swifties check in: Quote[/b] ] We are pleased with the fact that we were able to effectively bring attention to our issues and raise questions regarding Senator Kerry’s character, leadership ability and qualifications as a potential Commander in Chief. As we have stated since we formed, we believed that John Kerry’s actions in Vietnam, coupled with the reprehensible statements he made after he returned were serious and consequently made him unfit for command. The primary purpose of our organization was to provide a voice for the courageous and honorable veterans of Vietnam, more than 280 Swift Boat Vets, Coast Guardsmen and POWs who served their country with honor. Our national grassroots efforts produced donors in every state in the nation as we raised more than $26 million, with more than $7 million in online contributions. In addition, Swift Boat Veterans and former POW's visited dozens of states to take their message directly to the American people. We were the true embodiment of grassroots citizen action, complied fully with federal election law and had every right to participate in the public discussion of John Kerry's qualifications as Commander in Chief. -- Admiral Roy Hoffmann (ret.) Statement by Adm. Hoffman (ret.) Contrasted with Kerry's concession speech: Quote[/b] ]I want to thank my crewmates and my friends from 35 years ago. That great ‘band of brothers’ who crisscrossed this country on my behalf through 2004. Thank you. They had the courage to speak the truth back then, and they spoke it again this year, and for that, I will forever be grateful. www.johnkerry.com And speak the truth they did. Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted November 3, 2004 internet voting wouldn't work. it'd be too easy to cheat. vote for different people, have minors/convicts vote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blake 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Quote[/b] ]What a pansy Kerry is for crying out loud. Even if he was going to lose. Take it like a man Amazing. Kerry lost and very politely may I add, now people still keep bashing him.  Quote[/b] ]We are pleased with the fact that we were able to effectively bring attention to our issues and raise questions regarding Senator Kerry’s character, leadership ability and qualifications as a potential Commander in Chief. Yeah and the true commander in Chief is Dick Cheney again, this is actually his 3rd term at the helm. Vietnam Veterans relying on a draft-dodger's commanding skills, how patriotic makes me cry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baphomet 0 Posted November 3, 2004 He quit. He didn't lose. Not in my opinion. He quit to avoid "losing". I didn't hear "Kerry lost" on the news or from other people. It was "Wow, did you hear that Kerry threw in the towel?", or "Kerry gave up". It's one thing to give up and be polite about it, it's entirely another to have someone tell you that you lost and keep it together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blake 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Quote[/b] ]It's one thing to give up and be polite about it, it's entirely another to have someone tell you that you lost and keep it together. Yeah why not drag the obvious result to the next year and launch a batallion of lawyers on the way! C'mon what have you been smoking? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acecombat 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Not surprised by this, however I'm a little disgusted with Kerry. Even if Bush does fuck up this term, what can anyone really say?"Well you know... Kerry ducked out..." What a pansy Kerry is for crying out loud. Even if he was going to lose. Take it like a man. ... wha ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blake 0 Posted November 3, 2004 He probably means whatever Bush screws up on the next term, it's Kerry's fault because he 'gave up the elections' so we should then blame him, not Bush Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acecombat 0 Posted November 3, 2004 He probably means whatever Bush screws up on the next term, it's Kerry's fault because he 'gave up the elections' so we should then blame him, not Bush  RIGHT ON! Bush was born it was kerrys fault too probably .... When will these people EVER learn to stop the buck where it belongs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shinRaiden 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Hmm. Kerry conceded, and graciously too. But he had to force John Edwards to shut up because Edwards was trying to do to Kerry what you're accusing Cheney of doing to Bush, ie playing puppetmaster. But the self-credentialed pundits aren't giving up, and it is they who are continuing to wring their hands in dismay for the voters ignoring all their carefully crafted attempts at mind-control and manipulation through the Mainstream Media. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blake 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Quote[/b] ]But he had to force John Edwards to shut up because Edwards was trying to do to Kerry what you're accusing Cheney of doing to Bush, ie playing puppetmaster That's small talk compared how the Master of Puppets has been dangling the Bush Sr & Jr. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites