Tymi 0 Posted February 18, 2004 . http://www.rob.com/matt/videos/F15_midair.wmv Ouch ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iNeo 0 Posted February 18, 2004 at least they didn't explode... It sounded like in lomac heh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tymi 0 Posted February 18, 2004 You can hear a computer voice saying "caution" after the crash  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozanzac 0 Posted February 18, 2004 Ouch! Hope both pilots ejected OK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 IN 1 0 Posted February 18, 2004 Well whatever they did later on, ejection are always be the last choose.......No not because of the price of the plane trust me, you wont want to do that more then 2 times in your life time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozanzac 0 Posted February 18, 2004 Yeah, but it was obvious that the pilot had lost control of the aircraft after the collision, that and you don't call 'Mayday', 'Mark', and 'I'm on fire' unless your in deep trouble, and intend to notify the appropriate people to prepare an SAR. Besides, some pilots would eject for much lesser reasons than a head-on midair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted February 18, 2004 Did anyone get that other guy's license number? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killagee 0 Posted February 18, 2004 OMG! that footage is scary! What does the "Mark" mean? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozanzac 0 Posted February 18, 2004 "Mark" is a term used to describe in which you or someone else 'marks' your immediate position. It's useful for recording the position of a target, or in this case, an incident. When he said that, his position would have been recorded by Ground Controllers or AWACS, and it would have been used as a reference point for the point of collision and probably for any SAR mission co-ordination. (But it could have also been the other pilot's name!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted February 18, 2004 Did he hit an F-22? I thought the wings were triangular. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozanzac 0 Posted February 18, 2004 Nah, it's an F-15. Trust the name of the file. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killagee 0 Posted February 18, 2004 I just had another look at the video. Its definately another F-15. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted February 18, 2004 What's with the "knock it off, knock it off"? That was taken too literally just a few seconds beofre it came over the radio. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dauragon 0 Posted February 18, 2004 what codec do u need to view it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killagee 0 Posted February 18, 2004 I think it is the Controller calling off the Manouvers after the mayday was called... Wonder how long it took for him to eject? Did you guys see that video of the T-Bird F-16 ejection in Idaho? I downloaded the video but cant find the links. Boy! THAT was close! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted February 18, 2004 Did you guys see that video of the T-Bird F-16 ejection in Idaho? I downloaded the video but cant find the links. Boy! THAT was close! Thunderbirds Crash: Truth In Images. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acecombat 0 Posted February 18, 2004 Thats nothing anyone know about the Israeli pilot who crashed a F-15 and then landed safely with one wing ONLY Quote[/b] ]F15 Wingless Landing On May 1st. 1983, a dogfight training took place between two F-15D's and four A-4N Skyhawks over the skies of the Negev desert in Israel. The F-15D (#957, nicknamed 'Markia Shchakim', 5 killmarks) was used for the training of a new pilot in the squadron. Here is the description of the event as described in "Pressure Suit": " At some point I collided with one of the Skyhawks, at first I didn't realize it. I felt a big strike, and I thought we passed through the jet stream of one of the other aircraft. Before I could react, I saw the big fire ball created by the explosion of the Skyhawk. The radio started to deliver calls saying that the Skyhawk pilot has ejected, and I understood that the fire ball was the Skyhawk, that exploded, and the pilot was ejected automatically. There was a tremendous fuel stream going out of the wing, and I understood it was badly damaged. The aircraft flew without control in a strange spiral. I re-connected the electric control to the control surfaces, and slowly gained control of the aircraft until I was straight and level again. It was clear to me that I should eject. When I gained control I said : "Hey, wait, don't eject yet!". No warning light was on and the navigation computer worked as usual; I just needed a warning light in my panel to indicate that I missed a wing..." The instructor ordered me to eject. The wing is a fuel tank, and the fuel indicator showed 0.000 so I assumed that the jet stream sucked all the fuel out of the other tanks. However, I remembered that the valves operate only in one direction, so that I might have enough fuel to get to the nearest airfield and land. I worked like a machine, wasn't scared and didn't worry. All I knew was: as long as the sucker flies, I'm gonna stay inside. I started to decrease the airspeed, but at that point one wing was not enough. So I went into a spin down and to the right. A second before I decided to eject, I pushed the throttle and lit the afterburner. I gained speed and thus got control of the aircraft again. Next thing I did was lowering the arresting hook. A few seconds later I touched the runway at 260 knots, about twice the recommended speed, and called the tower to erect the emergency recovery net. The hook was torn away from the fuselage because of the high speed, but I managed to stop 10 meters before the net. I turned back to shake the hand of my instructor, who urged me to eject, and then I saw it for the first time - no wing The IAF (Israeli Air Force) contacted McDonnell Douglas and asked for information about the possibility to land an F-15 with one wing . MD replied that this is aero-dynamically impossible, as confirmed by computer simulations... Then they received the photo.... After two months the same F-15 got a new wing and returned to action. This is what "Flight international, 8 June 1985" wrote about the incident: "The most outstanding Eagle save was by a pilot from a foreign air force. During air combat training his two seater F-15 was involved in a mid-air collision with an A-4 Skyhawk. The A-4 crashed, and the Eagle lost its right wing from about 2ft. outboard. After some confusion between the instructor who said eject, and the student who outranked his instructor and said no, the F-15 was landed at its desert base. Touching down at 290 kt, the hook was dropped for an approach and engagement. This slowed the F-15 to 100 kt, when the hook weak link sheared, and the aircraft was then braked conventionally. It is said that the student was later demoted for disobeying his instructor, then promoted for saving the aircraft. McDonnell Douglas attributes the saving of this aircraft to the amount of lift generated by the engine intake/body and "a hell of a good pilot" . All i've got to say is WHAT A PILOT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spy17 1 Posted February 18, 2004 Funny there is a simmilar topic in the IL2FB forums now... http://www.usrcjc.org/photogallery/F-18_mid-air.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted February 18, 2004 I just needed a warning light in my panel to indicate that I missed a wing... LOL! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozanzac 0 Posted February 18, 2004 Damn! One wing! I think we've found something for this thread. Miliatry aviation mishaps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acecombat 0 Posted February 18, 2004 IMO this guy could fly without a plane too I cant imagine how he did it i mean all the forces working in his way and everything going right , he had to be DAMN lucky , lets just say somone up there was watching out for him Usually when you watch such things happen the pilots immediately bail out like scaredy cats this guy didnt i respect his bravery and commitment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winters 1 Posted February 18, 2004 IMO this guy could fly without a plane too  I cant imagine how he did it i mean all the forces  working in his way and everything going right , he had to be DAMN lucky , lets just say somone up there was watching out for him  Usually when you watch such things happen the pilots immediately bail out like scaredy cats this guy didnt i respect his bravery and commitment. Either that or his "Eject" button wouldn't work Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted February 18, 2004 Either that or his "Eject" button wouldn't work  Or maybe he just didn't trust it after hearing about him: Surviving Partial Ejection from A-6 Aircraft Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winters 1 Posted February 18, 2004 wow, now that guy was really lucky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozanzac 0 Posted February 18, 2004 Quote[/b] ]For example, my parachute became entangled in the horizontal stabilizer tight enough to act as a shoulder harness for the trap, but not tight enough to bind the flight controls Whoa! That's lucky! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites