Apollo 0 Posted February 10, 2004 Some Australian news source: Quote[/b] ]A candidate in Russia's March 14 presidential election allied to exiled billionaire business mogul Boris Berezovsky has been missing for two days, his campaign manager said.Relatives of Ivan Rybkin "have neither seen him nor come into contact with him" since Thursday evening, the Interfax news agency quoted Ksenia Ponomariova as saying. Mr Rybkin's wife confirmed not having had any news of her husband and said she would file a missing person's report with Russian police on Sunday. The news followed the earlier announcement by the Russian electoral committee of the registration of Mr Rybkin, a former speaker of the State Duma lower house of Parliament, as an independent candidate in the March presidential election. Mr Rybkin is leader of the wing of the Liberal Russia party that has remained faithful to Mr Berezovsky since the party split in 2003. Mr Berezovsky, a fierce opponent of Russian President Vladimir Putin and wanted on fraud charges in Moscow, has been in exile in Britain since October 2001 where he has obtained political asylum. Liberal Russia was created in 2002 by Berezovsky. Mr Putin is expected to win the election with ease. Seems Putin is more and more forcing out his opponents.Well Berezovsky fled and is sitting with a decent amount of cash somewhere in Monaco probably toghther with Yeltsin his family living of International monetary funds given to Yeltsin in his presidential terms.i can't say i have much symphaty for the oliarchy in general ,however Putin seems to be efficiant in filling up the power vacuum that removing those oliarch's provide... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted February 10, 2004 Well, the bastard was KGB, it must come naturally! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toadeater 0 Posted February 10, 2004 IMHO, the Oligarchs deserve everything they get for robbing the country blind, so at this point I congratulate Putin on a job well done, and I hope Berezofsky is eventually caught, castrated, and hung in Red Square for a CNN photo op. Better the KGB takes over robbing the country, at least they're doing it for the country's benefit, not purely their own benefit. These oligarchs are like the Ken Lays of Russia, I wish we had someone like Putin to deal with the crooks in America. Instead, we have people going after insignificant things like Martha Stewart, Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson's breast, etc. How about all the billions Halliburton stole over the years? Is Janet Jackson's breast really a worse crime than that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apollo 0 Posted February 10, 2004 I have a different oppinion of it in some way though.i'm also against these oliarchy ,however Ivan Rybkin not a oliarch himself ,he was a presidential candidate that was supported by an oliarch.Still could be dangerous if he would collect enough vote's ,however it was known from the start of this ellection campaign that Putin was to win it anyway.Normally Rybking wouldn't be a problem ,if it wasn't for the fact that innitiated a very aggresive ellection campaign heavily critisizing Putin and a lot of the Political top.If Putin is behind this dissapearance then it's yet again a sign of how Putin treat's free speech and press. Btw the Kgb is now Fsb.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Colossus 2 Posted February 10, 2004 Damn ex-KGB president. I belive the Russian president has something to do with this magical diseperence (sorry my english) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tamme 0 Posted February 10, 2004 Btw the Kgb is now Fsb.... What's the difference? And what's with all these hoorays for Putin? IMHO Putin is a dangerous man, God knows how long he'll stay in power and what he'll do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ironsight 1 Posted February 10, 2004 Hmmm this has got a smell maybe a kidnap by ex-KGB or Spetznatz units Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted February 10, 2004 Well, the bastard was KGB, it must come naturally! LMAO... You know, I would be cautious before accusing Putin directly. perhaps it is someone favouring Putin but he has not direct connection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ironsight 1 Posted February 10, 2004 You know, I would be cautious before accusing Putin directly. Â perhaps it is someone favouring Putin but he has not direct connection. Â Â Sure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m21man 0 Posted February 10, 2004 Quote[/b] ]You know, I would be cautious before accusing Putin directly. Â perhaps it is someone favouring Putin but he has not direct connection. Oh boy! So he only has murderous mobsters who secretly favor him . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted February 10, 2004 Would that be his fault? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m21man 0 Posted February 10, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Would that be his fault? To think of it another way, imagine if an oil company that Bush had never heard of decided that they wanted him to win (No duh ). They therefore have Kerry killed at a rally. Bush would still be blamed for giving the company the motivation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZmeiGorin 0 Posted February 10, 2004 I don't think that Oligarkhs (Russian transliteration, does this word exist in English?) are so "Bad". They've reached their status legally, using their (knowlege|luck|something else). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted February 10, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Would that be his fault? To think of it another way, imagine if an oil company that Bush had never heard of decided that they wanted him to win (No duh ). They therefore have Kerry killed at a rally. Bush would still be blamed for giving the company the motivation. I worry for Kerry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apollo 0 Posted February 10, 2004 Quote[/b] ]I don't think that Oligarkhs (Russian transliteration, does this word exist in English?) are so "Bad". They've reached their status legally, using their (knowlege|luck|something else). Euh ,they reachrd their oliarch status more by political connection's.Afcourse after the fall of communism the state owned company's had to transform in private owned company's.However strategic family members of key politicians at that time managed to buy most important industry for really a rediculous prize. Besides ,the form monopoly position's ,like Berezovsky was the only car reseller before Putin ousted him out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted February 10, 2004 He has been located in Ukraine. "I haven't disappeared anywhere," Ivan Rybkin told the radio station Echo of Moscow, adding that he decided to visit friends in Kyiv and not listen to the radio or TV for a few days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EiZei 0 Posted February 10, 2004 "I haven't disappeared anywhere," Ivan Rybkin told the radio station Echo of Moscow, adding that he decided to visit friends in Kyiv and not listen to the radio or TV for a few days. No-one of his friends do not read/watch the news as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apollo 0 Posted February 10, 2004 Yeah ,sounds fishy... ,was it an ellection stunt? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhoCares 0 Posted February 10, 2004 "I haven't disappeared anywhere," Ivan Rybkin told the radio station Echo of Moscow, adding that he decided to visit friends in Kyiv and not listen to the radio or TV for a few days. No-one of his friends do not read/watch the news as well? Who needs news if he has enough Wodka for more then a weekend? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted February 10, 2004 Yeah ,sounds fishy... ,was it an ellection stunt? The guy probably needed a vacation quickly... too much stress and maybe family tensions could do it. So I would give it 70% that this just "happened" without political reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted February 10, 2004 Yeah ,sounds fishy... ,was it an ellection stunt? The guy probably needed a vacation quickly... too much stress and maybe family tensions could do it. Â So I would give it 70% that this just "happened" without political reasons. But without telling your wife or your bodyguard? It's asking for trouble.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted February 10, 2004 I agree it probably was, but hey, nobody knew where he was, maybe not even his opponents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-33ker 0 Posted February 10, 2004 Maybe he doesn't want to tell the truth about it (or was told not to do so ) to protect his family... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted February 10, 2004 Hehehe, more and more conspiracies by the minute, what is this I'm hearing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
denoir 0 Posted February 10, 2004 Maybe he doesn't want to tell the truth about it (or was told not to do so ) to protect his family... Â Yes, he was actually killed by Putin and now he is lying about it to protect his family. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
