The Iraq thread 3

[Ironsight 1]

What I find silly is the US asking for a ceasefire after ~2 days of uprising in Fal.  I mean come on, just admitt you had to leave the city.  No way that is done for humanitarian aid after just 2 days.  

It seems that it really is for humanitarian aid, it was asked by the Iraqi gouverment. The US forces wanted to continue the fight

[4-Eyes 0]

It is not about censorship, it is about the fact that this forum also atracts younger members for which it may not appropriate.

*laughs*

then they shouldn't be on the net. You can find far more explicit pictures just by accident.

And those kind of pictures just show you what war and turmoil are like. Not a clean operation like CNN shows you.

[bn880 5]

What I find silly is the US asking for a ceasefire after ~2 days of uprising in Fal. I mean come on, just admitt you had to leave the city. No way that is done for humanitarian aid after just 2 days.

It seems that it really is for humanitarian aid, it was asked by the Iraqi gouverment. The US forces wanted to continue the fight

That is irrelevant. There is no such thing as an Iraqi government now. They are just doing what hte US wants.

Fact is, US forces had to leave Fallujah. For one reason or another they lost control, if they had any in the first place.

[Ironsight 1]

It is not about censorship, it is about the fact that this forum also atracts younger members for which it may not appropriate.

*laughs*

then they shouldn't be on the net. You can find far more explicit pictures just by accident.

And those kind of pictures just show you what war and turmoil are like. Not a clean operation like CNN shows you.

I don't have a problem with it myself but others do and it clashes with the forum rules

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

It is not about censorship, it is about the fact that this forum also atracts younger members for which it may not appropriate.

*laughs*

then they shouldn't be on the net. You can find far more explicit pictures just by accident.

And those kind of pictures just show you what war and turmoil are like. Not a clean operation like CNN shows you.

Forgetting that this is the forum of a computergame? Parents shall not identify this Site with pictures of people being stoned to death. There are still sites out that that contain material for all age groups.

But if you want to go for it, fine with me!

[quicksand 0]

What I find silly is the US asking for a ceasefire after ~2 days of uprising in Fal.  I mean come on, just admitt you had to leave the city.  No way that is done for humanitarian aid after just 2 days.  

It seems that it really is for humanitarian aid, it was asked by the Iraqi gouverment. The US forces wanted to continue the fight  

That is irrelevant.  There is no such thing as an Iraqi government now.  They are just doing what hte US wants.

Fact is, US forces had to leave Fallujah.  For one reason or another they lost control, if they had any in the first place.

It appears that fighting got extremly rough when they approached the industrial zone they thought was abandoned. The Resistance was well organised,and sniper fire made them lose a couple of men immidiatly.

Another point is that they didn`t expected such a curagous Resistance.They thought they will crack after the first air bombardments and they will take the city as fast as Baghdad.

Well it appears the solidarity between Iraqis is as never before and people from all over Iraq are coming to join the fight.

Their will to fight is very surprising for me under such conditions and on contrast with the almost zero fighthing in Baghdad that ended the war.

[4-Eyes 0]

Forgetting that this is the forum of a computergame? Parents shall not identify this Site with pictures of people being stoned to death. There are still sites out that that contain material for all age groups.

Yes, about a computer game, but it's alco a topic in the offtopic section, and it's called The Iraq thread indicating adult conversations, and graphic content.

But since it's against the rules, delete it.

[Ironsight 1]

It is not about censorship, it is about the fact that this forum also atracts younger members for which it may not appropriate.

*laughs*

then they shouldn't be on the net. You can find far more explicit pictures just by accident.

And those kind of pictures just show you what war and turmoil are like. Not a clean operation like CNN shows you.

Forgetting that this is the forum of a computergame? Parents shall not identify this Site with pictures of people being stoned to death. There are still sites out that that contain material for all age groups.

If you want to see this kind of stuff go to a news site.

And remove the picture before you get into trouble

[quicksand 0]

OK let`s stop going off-topic before they unpin this thread again and let`s end this useless debate. It`s simply against forum rules and you get banned if you don`t obbey them(At a time when I didn`t know this I myself almost got banned)

More in Iraq:

TV shows captured American

Quote[/b] ]BAGHDAD, Iraq - TV pictures on Saturday showed Iraqi insurgents holding a foreigner, apparently American, prisoner in a car after fighting outside Baghdad the day before, the latest in a rash of kidnappings of foreigners in Iraq  during this week's violence.

The prisoner, who spoke with a southern American accent and was apparently wounded in the arm, spoke to a cameraman from the back seat of a car with a masked gunman next to him, on the main highway on Baghdad's western edge where fighting took place Friday.

The videotape apparently was shot Friday. The prisoner identified himself as Thomas Hamill to the cameraman, from Australia's ABC television, and said he was part of a convoy that was attacked.

When asked by an ABC reporter what happened, the man said: "They attacked our convoy. That's all I'm going to say."

The car then drove off down the highway with him still in the back seat, passing a burning tanker truck on the road. The prisoner wore what appeared to be a light flak jacket of the sort worn by private security guards, who are often contracted to protect convoys.

Gunmen attacked a fuel convoy Friday in Abu Ghreib on the main highway outside Baghdad, setting a tanker on fire and killing one U.S. soldier and an Iraqi driver.

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

just always check the daily CIA bar in my sig and you are updated!

[ozanzac 0]

For the record, I'm not offended by it, nor do I endorse censorship.

It is however, disgusting. In such a way, that I hope the perpertrator within aforementioned photo gets the treatment returned.

[4-Eyes 0]

you should probably check Al Jazeera here, as I think their objectivness surpasses that of the CNN, and they are also very good at reporting regularly.

[Placebo 29]

Colossus perm banned obviously.

4-Eyes I don't like the fact that in Saudi if I steal I get my hands cut off, so guess what, I don't go to Saudi and steal, you choose to come here so you abide by the rules of this forum, if you have an issue with that, well don't go to Saudi.

[Acecombat 0]

Colossus perm banned obviously.

4-Eyes I don't like the fact that in Saudi if I steal I get my hands cut off, so guess what, I don't go to Saudi and steal, you choose to come here so you abide by the rules of this forum, if you have an issue with that, well don't go to Saudi.

Agreed with you on that but one thing can i say please?

Why do people call Saudi Arabia , Saudi ? I find it very odd it sounds like as if your talking about some individual rather then a country then , anyway carry on since writing in full is a pain

[Placebo 29]

LOL I don't know, perhaps a Northern English thing, lots of our contractors used to go to Saudi Arabia in the 70s & 80s and it was always shortened to Saudi as the Northern vernacular form

[Pathy 0]

Wasnt a PERMANENT ban on Colosus a wee bit harsh.........ignorance is not a defence, but the guy probably didnt even come back and see the suggestion that he ought to remove the pic.....

Your decision.

Anyway, back with the program.

*scrolls down about 7 posts to find the last truly ontopic one*

So thier grand strategy is to kidnapp Civilians. Smart, puts alot of pressure on the governments from thier own people. For example, those japanese that were kidnapped, in an attempt to make Tokyo withdraw its troops. It probably wont work on a one off basis, but if this is sustained, then public opinion at home (wherever home may be) will shift sharply away from the war. The rebels know exactly what they are doing, they know that if they can change public opinion in the country of origin for the soldiers, they can win without an actuall military victory.....

[Placebo 29]

Wasnt a PERMANENT ban on Colosus a wee bit harsh.........

It may have been, I'm still deciding.

I'm rather disappointed that after the furore of me unpinning this thread it's back up a couple of days and we have flaming/flame baiting and a graphic image posted, so much for me putting faith in the thread.

[4-Eyes 0]

Yes I understand rules are rules, and you just enforce them. I'm not gonna shit about the rules anymore.

@Pathy

I hate to admitt it, but it's an excelent strategy. Seeing how most of the people in the countries that went into Iraq didn't support the decision anyway, some of the governments may be under growing pressure to pull out. There were fairly large protests in Tokyo about that.

By the way, does anyone remember the deadline for the Japanese withdrawal?

[turms 0]

From Reuters

Quote[/b] ]DUBAI (Reuters) - An Iraqi group which said it kidnapped three Japanese hostages has said it will release them within 24 hours, abandoning a threat to kill them, Arabic television station Al Jazeera said on Saturday.

"They will release them in 24 hours in response to a call from the Muslim Clerics Association," Al Jazeera said, referring to a body of Iraqi religious scholars

EDIT: as for the permanent ban; I didnt see the pic, but a permanent ban does sound a bit harsh...

Oh and thankyou for repinning this

[billybob2002 0]

Can somebody answer this question.

Are the "rebels" apart of the civilian death toll? They are not wearing any special uniforms and basically have on civilian clothes. You take away the gun and they become "civilian".

[billybob2002 0]

It seems a Red Crescent top official was killed with his wife during a ambush in Iraq. Their car had the symbol of the group on it. Somebody can find a link, please? It was on television.

[4-Eyes 0]

You can find it on Al Jazeera's site.

They seem to be the most up to date.

please click me

[Pathy 0]

Aljazeera seems to be actually one of the most objective news sites on the net. That may just be a general impression im getting from the few articles ive looked at, but so far, i'd trust this as a better source than CNN (well, everyone knows they are full of shit anyway) or the BBC

Im sure ill come across a piece of totally pro arab crap that will blow those neutral viewpoint impressions out of the water any second now......

[4-Eyes 0]

Yeah, I'm getting mixed emotions because of the little flash cartoons at the bottom, but still, I trust them more than CNN.

[Acecombat 0]

Astonishing development

Quote[/b] ]U.S. Muslims seek Pentagon probe on Iraq photo

Soldier's sign says he killed boy's father, impregnated sister

Click to englarge

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) today called for a Pentagon investigation of a photograph circulating on the Internet that apparently shows an American soldier mocking an Iraqi child.

The photo sent to CAIR seems to be of an American soldier standing next to two Iraqi children who are giving the thumbs-up sign. One child holds a hand-lettered sign in English that reads: "Lcpl Boudreaux killed my Dad, th(en) he knocked up my sister!" ("Knocked up" is American slang for making someone pregnant out of wedlock.)

I wont post the pic as it might be considred in-appropriate.Mods?

Anyway this is really sick now , they are humiliating a kid who doesnt even understand english if this is true