VBS -Explain.

[Sid 0]

This new game that is coming out, VBS, I have a few questions I hope you don't mind answering for me:

-Will this take another 5 years to develope? (lol)

-Hmm, these graphics look awfully Familiar, hey, will this be for OFP? (Goto thier main page and look at there 3rd Picture, THATS OFP'S WATER!!)

-I do realize this game takes place in 1885, but why'd you make all the good stuff for VBS?

-And why are you developing the game on the OFP Engine? I can see how, it's free to you, and the enoumous amount of freedom.. but still, why?

(If you notice the jet in picutre 3 on thier site, the water they show is OFP's water!)

Please explain to me this game, for I am curous, and I'll listen.

[Damage Inc 0]

It's a military simulator for the military.

[NoToRiouS 0]

I don't think VBS is a game. It's a combat simulation for military use only. Maybe we'll see some stuff from it implemented in OFP(2??). They took the Steyr-Aug from it already. But I don't think it's ment to be released for all to buy

NoToR out

[Die Alive 0]

There's the RTS game, Real War out now, that was developed for the US Military, and now it's out for the public.  It's not exactly the same as the military version (I think Real War has more units or something), but it was released none the less.

VBS could be the same, maybe in a few years, after the military finds some new simulator to use, then maybe it will be turned into a commercial product.

-=Die Alive=-

[Dawdler 0]

But OFP IS the game variant of the military sim VBS...

[Die Alive 0]

So maybe they'll release more units from VBS to the OFP world, or release it as a sequal or something.

BTW, who's armies are using VBS? I'm too lazy to go to the site and find out, if it's there.

-=Die Alive=-

[Damage Inc 0]

It says USMC on the main page (US Marine Corps I think).

[Dawdler 0]

Do the USMC use Steyer? And I think I saw some other quite non US weaponry there.

[ALDEGA 0]

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-I do realize this game takes place in 1885, but ...

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it's 1985

[Sid 0]

lol!

Catapults vs BMP's!

[m79 0]

The pics also show quiet a few Australian units as well as marine ones.

You can see a:

Barret

CH-53

AAV7

AV8B

Tiger

Aug

AW50

Blackhawk.

I think thats all of them.

[Dawdler 0]

I GOT IT!!!

The USMC is starting to train with Australian weaponry so they know what to face and how to destroy it when they invade Australia!!!

Why else would one put USMC vs Australian weaponry?

[Unl33t 0]

NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

Time for Australia to buy AK Rifles from Russia to take them all out in style, We could recruit the Viet Cong to help us!

[Guest Scooby]

What difference does it make to you what weapon you use to kill someone?

No such thing as killing someone with style...

[Espectro (DayZ) 0]

Well, IMHO its more stylish to kill a person with a luger, then a button for the nuclear detonation.

[Dawdler 0]

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No such thing as killing someone with style...

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In OFP there is! Set up two teams of 30-40 ppl each (multiplayer for some 80 ppl). Place everyone facing each other. When a signal is given, start shooting. Then tell everyone to turn around and run. The one that gets the furthest distance from original position until lag kills wins.

THATS killing in style

Great if one is bored.

[King Kong 0]

That is not a Steyr for sure

Looks more like a FN MAG or a SAW to me

[AndyZ 0]

It may be a kind of lame question

Could somebody give me link to this VBS?

AndyZ

[King Kong 0]

It's an SA80 for sure

[Anathema 0]

VBS is being developed for both the USMC and the Australian Defene Forces, so includes the Steyr, Leopard tanks etc.

About the gun in the picture, if you look closely at the barrel you'll see a large, horizontal flash hider and muzzle break, which can be found on the .50 caliber Barret sniper rifle, which is in use with USMC ( & also has USMC camo on).

As for BIS releasing parts of VBS for OFP this will probably never happen. Defence forces have secrets, which include computer programs as well as top secret plans, weapons etc. So when a company does work for the military (especially if it's combat related), they have to agree to sign a security/confidentiality agreement. This is why BIS have not said one word about VBS in the forum, and ignore questions about it.  

Also the US esecially would not want it availible to the puiblic, it would make a great training tool for their enemies, as well as their own forces. If the enemy can't get their hands on real US weapons, why not use the next best thing, a simulation, which not only models its appearance and charactreristics, but also how it behaves and fights on the battlefield.

(Edited by Anathema at 10:11 am on Dec. 2, 2001)

[MadDog 0]

AndyZ, try this:

http://www.virtualbattlefieldsystem.com/

Dave.

[theavonlady 2]

FBI: THIS POST HAS BEEN REMOVED BY CARNIVORE.

(Edited by theavonlady at 5:04 pm on Dec. 2, 2001)

[Beagle 684]

@ Anathema

There are already enought simulations on the market, that feature great realism in Battlefield systems.

None of the programmers had to sign anything, because they ha ex-servicemen they could ask questions.

Just for example Falcon 4.0, that was developt far beyond the point the publisher initially intended, with somen help of real F-16 Pilots.

Or take "Steel Beast" as the most realistic Tank Sim.

I served in a Leopard II myself, and I just can say, they modelled it exactly like the real thing, including the commands, spoken by the TC(...in german)

Do you rally think they would give the designrs knowledge, that goes beyond what is actually avaible for the soldiers, that operate this equipment.

And I never signed something that forbids me to speak about what I've learned in the army, exept for data like Encryptment procedures.

[m79 0]

King Kong , That is a Styer that the aussies are carrying , they also have a SAW and an AW50 for that sniper in the pic , it is NOT a SA80 , I think you need to go back to weps recognition cadet

[Razor635 0]

VBS uses the same engine as OFP but like a previous poster said the military has its secrets. We may see some cool stuff come out of it but then maybe not. Also BIS is doing the right thing by not mentioning it.