Starwars kid

[SKULLS_Viper 0]

Very sad indeed.

[ralphwiggum 6]

copyrights, theft

[FSPilot 0]

He copyrighted the tape?

And I dunno about theft, they might of just copied it and given it back.

[ralphwiggum 6]

He copyrighted the tape?

no, but the 4 kids did not have right/consent to give it out unless they had explicit written agreement from the kid.

Quote[/b] ]And I dunno about theft, they might of just copied it and given it back.

you mean like i borrow your gun, injure someone give it back to you and it's ok?(ammo supplied by me)

[Major Fubar 0]

I don't know about copyright as such, but isn't there some sort of law requiring permission from people to distribute their image via any form of media?

[Renagade 0]

No and at least the fat  kid got the chance to make a stupid movie in the first place.

I agree with cloney "It's just something stupid he did. It's not like it was a video of him having a wank infront of a school camera" and USSoldier11B "Lucasarts oughta pay him a good sum to use it as a promo for Episode III. He would have lots of dough and it would let him get the last laugh."

As for copyright "Quote (FSPilot @ July 28 2003,06:46)

He copyrighted the tape?

no, but the 4 kids did not have right/consent to give it out unless they had explicit written agreement from the kid.

"

U have to prove that first.

Like i said before big deal,in the grand scheme of things this don`t count as much if anything at all

[Harnu 0]

I don't know about copyright as such, but isn't there some sort of law requiring permission from people to distribute their image via any form of media?

I thought only if it's intended use is for profit?

[Renagade 0]

Then i guess loads of celebrities are due a ton of royalties from all the stupid magazines that stick thier faces on the front

[Harnu 0]

Well in that case most of the poporatzi (sp?) take their photos at public places, so it's not illegal, even if it is used to profit

The take was taken none the less, but has any real profit came to the four that stole it?

[FSPilot 0]

Quote[/b] ]no, but the 4 kids did not have right/consent to give it out unless they had explicit written agreement from the kid.

afaik it's public domain until it's copyrighted. it wasn't his personal property, it was school property, and i dont think they would of copyrighted it.

Quote[/b] ]you mean like i borrow your gun, injure someone give it back to you and it's ok?(ammo supplied by me)

If you take it with the intent of keeping it, it's stealing. If you take it, then give it back, it's not stealing... I think. Laws against stealing are to prevent loss of property, but if you give the object back it's not lost.

[FSPilot 0]

I don't know about copyright as such, but isn't there some sort of law requiring permission from people to distribute their image via any form of media?

I thought only if it's intended use is for profit?

they are actually profiting a considerable amount of money because of this. someone set up a donation bin. i think they're getting an ipod computer and a lot of money, someone listed it earlier in this thred.

about the copyright, IIRC the video wasn't his, it was the school's. he was taping it for a school project.

could be wrong though, wouldn't be the first time

[Longinius 1]

"If you take it with the intent of keeping it, it's stealing. If you take it, then give it back, it's not stealing... I think. Laws against stealing are to prevent loss of property, but if you give the object back it's not lost."

Of course its stealing. Anytime someone takes something from you its theft, even if they intend to give it back.

Otherwise I'd be out stealing cars all day just to give it back when the day is over.

[FSPilot 0]

Yeah you're probably right. But it still wasn't the kid's property

We don't know enough details about this in the first place.

[ralphwiggum 6]

Yeah you're probably right.  But it still wasn't the kid's property

and those 4 bastards did not have property rights on the tape either.

Quote[/b] ]If you take it, then give it back, it's not stealing... I think.  Laws against stealing are to prevent loss of property, but if you give the object back it's not lost.

it is stealing, as Longinius said. posession of material that you did not get consent(whether verbal or written) is also illegal.

Quote[/b] ]afaik it's public domain until it's copyrighted.  it wasn't his personal property, it was school property, and i dont think they would of copyrighted it.

Some time ago in SoCal, the peeping toms, those who tape under women's skirts, were prosecuted under violation of reasonable privacy for taping upskirt in public places. Although a school is a public space, that doens't automatically give 4 bastards rights to it. in fact, when they are filming in public area, they are supposed notify that those accessing that area is going to be filmed in public property.

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

the only problem is the mocking! I see no problem with that video and I would even record one of myself.... the only problem is that at the age of 15 teenagers have a very unstable personality and live with a lot of pressure to keep up with everyone else.

I think at our age we would have a good laugh, dry the tears from our keyboard and then give the guy a good hug! I think I could have a lot better time with this young guy than with 99% of the wannabe cool gettho kids that are usually hanging around in schools!

[nolips71 0]

people get the piss took out of them everyday. he will get over it. he is only trying to get money from people for taking the piss out of him

[Renagade 0]

Although a school is a public space, that doens't automatically give 4 bastards rights to it. in fact, when they are filming in public area, they are supposed notify that those accessing that area is going to be filmed in public property.

Probably in theory but im sure cops,private detectives, news etc would say otherwise.

I have no sympathy for the stupid fat kid who can`t take the heat.

Now for those who are shot,stabbed,beaten,harrased etc on a regular basis, i might.

[Longinius 1]

Shot and stabbed on a regular basis?! : )

Wow, schools have gotten worse!

[nolips71 0]

deffinately, these days you can get your arse kicked for laughing in class never happended to me though

[FSPilot 0]

ralphwiggum

Quote[/b] ]it is stealing, as Longinius said. posession of material that you did not get consent(whether verbal or written) is also illegal.

So you're stealing that ralph wiggum image in your avatar?

Quote[/b] ]Some time ago in SoCal, the peeping toms, those who tape under women's skirts, were prosecuted under violation of reasonable privacy for taping upskirt in public places. Although a school is a public space, that doens't automatically give 4 bastards rights to it. in fact, when they are filming in public area, they are supposed notify that those accessing that area is going to be filmed in public property.

So the kid is at fault for not notifying everyone that he would be filming? I didn't see any signs in his video.

j/k

I probably shouldn't be a lawyer.

[Harnu 0]

I don't know about copyright as such, but isn't there some sort of law requiring permission from people to distribute their image via any form of media?

I thought only if it's intended use is for profit?

they are actually profiting a considerable amount of money because of this.  someone set up a donation bin.  i think they're getting an ipod computer and a lot of money, someone listed it earlier in this thred.

about the copyright, IIRC the video wasn't his, it was the school's.  he was taping it for a school project.

could be wrong though, wouldn't be the first time  

But the money being collected was for the kid I thought? It wasnt going to the 4 that stole it?

[Warin 0]

Ok, AFAIK:

The minute you create something (video, audio, written, etc) you have copyright on it. It isnt something that you need to file for. You have to file for trademarks though.

These guys stole the camera with the tape. They didnt ask permission to plaster this guy all over the internet. So yes, they did something illegal, and they should be punished for it.

If the kid had been hamming it up, and they had been taping him, that would be a whole different story. But the way they did it was wrong.

[Baron Hurlothrumbo IIX 0]

Yes.

He's still a whining little cry baby though.

[Warin 0]

Yes.

He's still a whining little cry baby though.

Yeap.

But he has the law on his side.

[Renagade 0]

so did the guy who was trying to sue tony martin