The north korea thread

[EiZei 0]

great, an attention whore with nukes

[theavonlady 2]

The Crazy has returned.

One hell of a party pooper.

Quote[/b] ]North Korea calls for ban on 'Team America' in Czech Republic

Last Updated Mon, 07 Feb 2005 14:25:55 EST

CBC Arts

PRAGUE - The North Korean embassy in Prague is calling for a ban on Team America: World Police in the Czech Republic.

"It harms the image of our country," a daily newspaper, Lidove Noviny, quoted an official at the embassy saying about the movie that stars a team of puppet terrorist-fighters.

The gung-ho puppets of 'Team America.' (AP file photo)The comedy, which was released in October in North America, was made by Trey Parker and Matt Stone, the duo behind television's South Park.

Done in the style of the Thunderbirds marionette series, the movie features an elite, albeit careless, U.S. counter-terrorism squad that destroys several world landmarks.

The main villain in Team America is North Korean dictator Kim Jong-il, who is shown in the movie shooting his translator in the head and feeding former United Nations weapons inspector Hans Blix to a tank of sharks.

Aided by vacuous Hollywood stars, Jong-il plans to carry out an attack with weapons of mass destruction that will result in damage that is "9/11 times 2,356."

"Such behavior is not part of our country's political culture," the North Korean diplomat added. "Therefore, we want the film to be banned."

However, the Czech Foreign Ministry said people would continue to be allowed to see the film, which had its Czech premiere on Feb. 3.

"We told them it's an unrealistic wish," ministry spokesman Vit Kolar said. "Obviously, it's absurd to demand that in a democratic country."

The film was attacked by critics on both the right and left when it debuted in North America.

Parker and Stone said at the time that they were not taking sides in the debate over U.S. foreign policy, but just continuing their tradition of being equal-opportunity offenders.

"When this movie is over, a lot of people will be confused about what side we're on," Parker said in one interview. "That's OK, because we're confused, too."

The gung-ho puppets of 'Team America.'

(AP file photo)

[Thunderbird 0]

Argh , why Do I find war subjects everywhere in the off topics section ?

let speak peace , forget war

the war is ugly, the war is stupid, the war isn't a passion, the war is a passion only for the insane ones and crazy people,always of civil which will die during the wars ...

The war isn't the best idea against north korea , let their people do , believe me , in few years , the army will definitively stop supporting the dictators, the people will certainly revolt, lets people themselves create their independences, forgets the war ...

the war will kill a lot of children and poor civilians , isn't enough the problems wich occurs in irak ??

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

Unfortunately THIS doesnt seem to be applicable with North Corea. The only way you can deal with it is to let them be, dont break up communication, dont let their people suffer of hunger and give them 2 decades. I am sure this might prevent a second cold war!

[ralphwiggum 6]

F!@# yeah!  

edit: gonna have a nice conversation with my Korean friends to day. it's also lunar new year for them.

[billybob2002 0]

F!@# yeah!  

edit: gonna have a nice conversation with my Korean friends to day. it's also lunar new year for them.

Feck what...you need to die!!!!

Quote[/b] ]Unfortunately THIS doesnt seem to be applicable with North Corea. The only way you can deal with it is to let them be, dont break up communication, dont let their people suffer of hunger and give them 2 decades. I am sure this might prevent a second cold war!

Kim is only just going to give the food to his military. That's the problem.

[Tovarish 0]

Kim is only just going to give the food to his military. That's the problem.

And of course....all the members of the military will not care what happens to the regular people of their country....right?

[theavonlady 2]

Kim is only just going to give the food to his military. That's the problem.

And of course....all the members of the military will not care what happens to the regular people of their country....right?

Seems that way so far. And it's been that way a long time.

[Tovarish 0]

Seems that way so far. And it's been that way a long time.

The majority of the military, along with the majority of the people, are brainwashed, but you have to remember that in their ideology everything they do is for the good of "The People". If it ever becomes apparent that the majority of "The People" are against the system, these sentiments will inevitably infect the military as well. As Orwell wrote:

"If there was hope, it must lie in the proles because only there, in those swarming disregarded masses, 85 percent of the population of Oceania, could the force to destroy the Party ever be generated.

...

But the proles, if only they could somehow become conscious of their own strength, would have no need to conspire. They needed only to rise up and shake themselves like a horse shaking off flies. If they chose they could blow the Party to pieces tomorrow morning. Surely sooner or later it must occur to them to do it?"

[DracoPaladore 0]

Unfortunatly for 1984, the ending isn't a happy one.

[theavonlady 2]

Unfortunatly for 1984, the ending isn't a happy one.

Two legs good. Four legs bad.

[Tovarish 0]

Unfortunatly for 1984, the ending isn't a happy one.

In large part because every government in the book was alike and every power was interested in prolonging the wars between each other. Such governments thrive off external hostility towards them. If you can scare your population enough from external enemies, your population will accept pretty much anything in order to feel safe. In fact, if they feel threatened, they will want an agressive and strong leader above all.

Now as soon as these supposed "enemies" manage to show themselves as human, and non hostile, to the regular population, the State's propaganda will start looking shallow. People will begin questioning things, and with enough trade and interaction, will get a tantalizing taste of what life is like in other parts of the world. The government will either need to reform, or will be naming an increasing number of people "Enemies of the People"....and there's only so far you can go with that, before you start a revolt or civil war.

Quote[/b] ]Two legs good. Four legs bad.

Right guy, wrong book

[theavonlady 2]

Wrong book (should have been Animal Farm).

Right analogy.

[DracoPaladore 0]

I think 1984's example of that was the freedom to say that 2 + 2 = 4

Hm, I remember that entire scene with Winston and O'Brien.

[Colossus 2]

Aaah the paranoia of the North-Korean goverment.

Kim is affraid of dolls, clowns, himself, the world and his hair.

I wonder who and how the next dictator is gone be.

[theavonlady 2]

I wonder who and how the next dictator is gone be.

His daughter!

[EiZei 0]

I wonder who and how the next dictator is gone be.

Kim Jong-chul (son of kim jong-il) is currently considered Kim's heir apparent AFAIK.

[Colossus 2]

I wonder who and how the next dictator is gone be.

His daughter!

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Only two smileys can explane this:

 

I wonder who and how the next dictator is gone be.

Kim Jong-chul (son of kim jong-il) is currently considered Kim's heir apparent AFAIK.

I have read a bit about him, he likes basketball

American basketball... WTH

N. Korea anti-US + Son of Kim likes U.S. basketball = Errrrh...

Quote[/b] ]Kim Jong Chol [Kim Jong Chul], Kim Jong Il's 23-year-old second son [apparently born around 1981], is currently considered to be the leader's chosen successor. He has a post at the Worker’s Party’s Central Committee Leadership Division, where Kim Jong Il trained to succeed Kim Il-sung. Kim Jong-Chol reportedly began work at the propaganda and agitation division of the Workers Party after studying at an international school in the Swiss city of Bern. According to one South Korean magazine report, he is said to be a fan of the US National Basketball Association, and had his father build basketball courts at their villas around the country.

In a 15 February 2003 Kyodo News reported that efforts had begun to propagate a cult around North Korean leader Kim Jong Il's current [third] and only known legal wife, Ko Yong Hee [Ko Yong-hi]. The news report was based on an internal military document obtained by Kyodo News from "reliable sources." The propaganda was seen as indicating the start of preparations to groom Kim Jong Chol, Kim Jong Il's 23-year-old second son born from Ko, as the leader's successor.

Leadership succession

[ralphwiggum 6]

had a nice chat with my Korean friends and they consider this another bluffing. seems like they are getting used to making claims but not facing the consequence of such claim.

avon, 100 post deduction for spamming.

[Thunderbird 0]

but your friends are civilians , they are like you or me ... they don't know if the guvernement has really nuke

Only people who work on this project can tell to the world the truth , but look , that became like in "fahrenheit 9/11" , Bush doesn't know what he'll do against north korea , because its army is very hugh , and they haven't oil

[shinRaiden 0]

What they're saying is that if he's got nukes, they're hiding underground in hidden facilities. What people forget is that Nasa published some radar images of several layers under the Nile as a hint to the Soviet Union that it was pointless to try to hide their silos in the late 70's to early 80's. That's one of the main reasons why they developed such a mobile rocket system, plus they had the concerns of having to guard the Iron Curtain from NATO, and simultaniously have to maintain readiness on the China border.

Nobody's saying just how much radiation has been pumped into the North Koreans as of late, but I suspect that their winters haven't been as cold as they otherwise might have. I suspect that the US has a pretty good idea of what kinds of MOAB's would be needed to seal off what points.

Secondly, in the major longterm redeployments announced last year, all the fuss was about pulling divisions out of Europe. Seriously, what're heavy armored divisions needed for there now? Anyway, in that list, was some quiet notes about Japan and the Koreas.

First off the USDOD is looking at pulling out a significant portion of the heavy divisions out of South Korean stationing. But they are in turn planing to increase forward positioning of either a MEU or an Army rapidly deployable unit like a stryker brigade between Guam and Okinawa or such. This would also include a repositioning of other units stationed in elsewhere in Japan as well.

Along with that the Japanese Government under PM Koizumi Junichiro has taken a bunch of drastic new policy shifts in regards to diplomatic and military commitments. Until recently, Japan has traditionally abstained from exercising a substantive role in regional diplomatic stabilization due to the fierce rhetoric out of Pyoungyang and Beijing regarding the Manchurian expansion period. Koizumi, following 911, has taken a very outspoken position and has rammed through societal and policy changes that argueabley exceed the level of cultural change debated under the heading of the Patriot act.

The deployment of units from the JSDF marked the first foreign expeditionary deployment of the Japanese military since the surrender in 1945, and was fiercely debated in the Diet. There was substantial arguements and legal wranglings alledging that their deployment was unconstitutional under the draconian MacArthurian constitutional provisions. Additionally Beijing was threatening hellfire and damnation and a million Hiroshimas if Japan shipped out those units. Koizumi won out and they went to Iraq.

At the same time Koizumi also turned around and jumped on board as a key pusher in the regional talks intent on neutralizing the DPRK. The Koizumi administration successfully cornered the DPRK on the issue of a number of kidnappings dating back 20 and 30 years, and forced the reunification of the seperated family members. This was then followed by Japan helping to push the regional talks along, until the DPRK broke them off and decided to try their luck again propagandizing FUD about Yankee Imperialist aggressions.

Very recently, Japan is again testing constitutionality waters with agreements to co-develop and deploy theater-located ABM systems. This brings Japan in as a potentially shooting partner in a nuclear engagement. With the currently promoted doctrine of eliminating missiles as close to lauch as possible, ideally over the launching country, it would also stand to reason that second generation systems like the airborne Laser ABM system under development would also be forward-positioned, likely in Japan.

[billybob2002 0]

but your friends are civilians , they are like you or me ... they don't  know if the guvernement has really nuke  

Only people who work on this project can tell to the world the truth  , but look , that became like in "fahrenheit 9/11" , Bush doesn't know what he'll do against north korea , because its army is very hugh , and they haven't oil  

Seriously, I'm so close to start some bashing aganist your country's leaders and etc....checks your location...too easy

Anyway,

Which mod said that they would enlist if there was a war against NK..

[Thunderbird 0]

but your friends are civilians , they are like you or me ... they don't know if the guvernement has really nuke

Only people who work on this project can tell to the world the truth , but look , that became like in "fahrenheit 9/11" , Bush doesn't know what he'll do against north korea , because its army is very hugh , and they haven't oil

Seriously, I'm so close to start some bashing aganist your country's leaders and etc....checks your location...too easy

Anyway,

Which mod said that they would enlist if there was a war against NK..

Why don't you accept the truth? why refuse the verity by patriotism? , patriotism is important but it's needed to be done in a correct direction, logical, respectful,

why do you support G.W.Bush?

whereas, his goal is clear and simple, to steal the oil of Iraq,he made suffer a lot of people only for his personal convictions, itsn't sufficient?

Iraq which didn't represent any danger to the USA is today HUMILIATED in front of all the cameras of the world, that is due to who?

if you have good reasons to agress my leaders just do it,

the true threat isn't Iraq but it's the North Korea, here is a real threat which reveals the true face and objectives of Bush, why has he always nothing made?

simple answer

because there's no oil for the USA in North Korea

So good night , I may sleep few hours before I'll start work

[Akira 0]

Don't forget that N. Korea also has the actual WMDs that Bush cried and moaned and sweared that Iraq had.

[billybob2002 0]

but your friends are civilians , they are like you or me ... they don't  know if the guvernement has really nuke  

Only people who work on this project can tell to the world the truth  , but look , that became like in "fahrenheit 9/11" , Bush doesn't know what he'll do against north korea , because its army is very hugh , and they haven't oil  

Seriously, I'm so close to start some bashing aganist your country's leaders and etc....checks your location...too easy

Anyway,

Which mod said that they would enlist if there was a war against NK..

Why don't you accept the truth?  why refuse the verity by patriotism? , patriotism is important but it's needed to be done  in a correct direction, logical, respectful,

why do you support G.W.Bush?  

whereas, his goal is clear and simple, to steal the oil of Iraq,he made suffer a lot of people only for his personal convictions, itsn't sufficient?  

Iraq which didn't represent any danger to the USA is today HUMILIATED in front of all the cameras of the world, that is due to who?

if you have good reasons to agress my leaders just do it,

the true threat isn't Iraq but it's the North Korea, here is a real threat which reveals the true face and objectives of Bush, why has he always nothing made?

simple answer

because there's no oil for the USA in North Korea  

So good night , I may sleep few hours before I'll start work

There is no hard evidence that Bush went to war because of oil. I'm sick and tired of that lefty bullshit which was spread around the world has the truth. That would be stupid has saying that Chirac was against the war because he would lose a "friend". Furthermore, you need to know why a land warfare against NK has not happen. It does not deal with NK is tough (they still used T-34s in a backup role up in to the 90s) but the thousands of artillery pieces that would destroy Seoul and other SK cities in a flash. The conflict would just turn in to another Korean War (but would China step in ?). Remember when the UN and US pushed back the NK but China saved them?