AngusHeaf 0 Posted April 23, 2003 Here's the skinny.... I need a mobile SAM replacement for the Vulcan. I'm looking into this for an upcoming WarGames CTI Tournament and I would like to replace the Vulcan and Shilka with rocket equivalents to cut down on the fierocious server lag created by a battery of AAA guns firing at incoming aircrafts. So far I've found a good (perfect really) replacement for the Shilka with the SA-13 Gopher from the Maarfy stuff. But I just can't find anything that is actually 1985 Cold War vintage for the US side to use. Did the americans have something similar even? I have been combing fas.org but can't find anything in particular beyond the M3 Linebacker which is too new (and a last ditch choice IMO). I was expecting to find something like a M113 with rocket boxes but can't find info on anything to see if they even exist. So I need two things... I would appreciate anyone with info on real life cold war era mobile SAMs (US). A name even. Something that is roughly equal to a SA-13. If by chance you know of a particularlly well-suited OFP addon that's already out there, let me know about that too! Thanks a bunch. Usually I can find this stuff but lately I've been losing my edge! Too much CTI, clearly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eviscerator 0 Posted April 23, 2003 http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m730.htm http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/chaparral.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supah 0 Posted April 23, 2003 Its running gears look very m113 ish to me, which would help the addon makers i believe The sidewinder model is allready available. So thats two things one would automatically have to remake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOB 0 Posted April 23, 2003 I dont think that the M109-ADATS is really 80's equipment (did i get the numbers right?) But if you are less picky the ADATS by DKM is a good choice. (just disable them side guns) But i dont know if there are any other good mobile SAM's if you would settle for a non-mobile we got the Rapier (Non U.S i know ) But it's a good option to the bulky Vulcan guns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJonth Cheeky Monkey 1 Posted April 23, 2003 Its gotta be the chaparral. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AngusHeaf 0 Posted April 23, 2003 Thanks for the info guys! I just went and downloaded the M109 ADTS and boy oh boy did I chew up some planes. A bit too much chewing though. I jumped into a frogfoot and tried my luck against 2 of them on a hill and it was just horrible. I'm no slouch pilot but for the life of me I had no chance and could only take out the two of them about 25% of the time. The other 75% of the time the damn things shot their huge missiles at me at what looked like mach 5. No chance of escape. I also noticed that the vehicle had the resistance muzzleflash bug. Oof. So basically the M109 isn't gonna cut it. The chaparal looks really sweet actually. Now all I have to do is talk someone into building one for the CTI project and we're set. Hah! The rapier missiles look neat but so far I'm not thrilled with the one that is out there. It requires a few different addons, has a weird installer that I don't want to deal with, and isn't exactly mobile which would mean scripting it so it can be deployed from a truck then moved later. I'm looking forward to the Falklands mod version but I don't know if they will release it in time for WarGames CTI Tournament. Btw, does someone sit between the rockets in the Chaparal? What a strange looking critter. Hard to tell if it's coming or going. Haha. I did read that it's basically a M113 chasis which is perfect. Now to find a willing addon maker... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wonder 0 Posted April 23, 2003 How about static HAWK SAMs (i know... it normally requires a tracking radar) Maybe somebody could make some sort of a script that a battery of SAMs wouldn't be able to fire its missiles when the tracking radar is down? As for the russian side, I'd like to see an SA-2 (aka. flying telephone pole) Any US equivalent for the ZU-23-2 AA gun? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr B 0 Posted April 24, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wonder @ April 24 2003,08:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Any US equivalent for the ZU-23-2 AA gun?<span id='postcolor'> There's the Sergeant York DIVADS system. Only 50 or so were made, but due to system bugs all of them ended up as targets on bombing ranges . They look pretty cool though: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackdog~ 0 Posted April 24, 2003 Well Angus, Plazmoid asked me about one of these too and I couldn't recall one except a crude M113 with mounted AT launchers, maybe you could/ask someone else to change the configuration of this vehicle to be an anti air. Click one of the contact doodahs below and I might be able to work this out. Sensei told me that he could model things in 3DS so you might want to ask him about making a gun... heck I could even make the textures. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VXR 9 Posted April 24, 2003 that M730A2 was one of the first models i made with o2, the model got lost but i want to make the M730 over again it fits perfect in the OFP timeline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AngusHeaf 0 Posted April 24, 2003 I'm really tempted at this point to just make the M730 Chaparal model and skin. I'm quite capable of doing it in 3DS but I don't have the time to learn how to use that bungled Oxygen program. I have enough on my plate with trying to get this CTI tournament up and running (and putting food on the table for my 34 illegitimate kids). What's a man to do?! I might play around with 3DS and see what I can crank out. The model would be little more than some rockets and some boxes. can't be THAT hard to model and skin. Maybe if I post some screens eventually someone will take interest and help with the CPP and all that other crap i don't know about. Or maybe Marfy will be my great czech hero and release a M730 tomorrow afternoon. A guy can have dreams can't he?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
