xmurderx 0 Posted March 16, 2003 hello, I am an american man with questions. Question 1) I was wondering, what would it take to join another nations army/military force? When talking about other nations I surely mean allied nations of the UN. 2) is there any websites I can goto on information about joining, military practice, guidlines? I really dont want to join the foreign leigon, so Iam looking for different options. what it comes down to is a man who has lost everything, looking to bring something new into life. A man who has always wanted to experiance the battlefield. any help on the subject of foreing armys would be amazingly appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArchangelSKT 0 Posted March 16, 2003 Why not the forreign legion...must be one of the best bets if you really want to fight....not that I would understand but anyway . Though by rumour and the " myth " the legion is different and a little bit more rough on you , though I`m not sure it is that true anymore....I just read a book by a Norwegian that spent 5 years there and he said in the book that the legion is not as strict as it used to be . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-RoNiN 0 Posted March 16, 2003 I'm not sure if there are any other militaries that accept foreigners. Perhaps the British Ghourkas do? I'll find out for you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xmurderx 0 Posted March 16, 2003 well if it comes down to it I would be willing to take up citizenship in that country Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 16, 2003 I hear that Iraq has some open positions available Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-RoNiN 0 Posted March 16, 2003 This is from my mate in the British Army, hope it helps </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">only Ghurkas can join the Ghurkas m8 apart from the UK appointed troop officers that is As far as western Armies go you will find near enough all of them support the same system as us, in that you have to be from that country to join it, in the main that is because of security reasons. In the UK we operate along them lines, our policy is that you have to have been resident in the Uk for 5 years or more and if you are not a UK national you need a letter from your embassy stating that you do not owe any military service to your own country first, then it is all down to security checks etc as to whether you get in. Nearly all NATO armies operate along similar lines. <span id='postcolor'> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brgnorway 0 Posted March 16, 2003 ...........Spain still has thier "Spanish foreign legion". I'm not sure if foreigners are still accepted though. To be honest - I don't even know if that unit still exist anymore Ask Sadico Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Othin 0 Posted March 16, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ Mar. 16 2003,15:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">This is from my mate in the British Army, hope it helps </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">only Ghurkas can join the Ghurkas m8 apart from the UK appointed troop officers that is As far as western Armies go you will find near enough all of them support the same system as us, in that you have to be from that country to join it, in the main that is because of security reasons. In the UK we operate along them lines, our policy is that you have to have been resident in the Uk for 5 years or more and if you are not a UK national you need a letter from your embassy stating that you do not owe any military service to your own country first, then it is all down to security checks etc as to whether you get in. Nearly all NATO armies operate along similar lines. <span id='postcolor'><span id='postcolor'> Hmm, that I did not know. I assumed that the U.K. was like the U.S. in that you can join the military as a way of becoming a citizen. My division in bootcamp had a German girl and Vietnamese girl that weren't yet citizens of the U.S. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted March 16, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Othin @ Mar. 16 2003,15:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hmm, that I did not know. Â I assumed that the U.K. was like the U.S. in that you can join the military as a way of becoming a citizen. Â My division in bootcamp had a German girl and Vietnamese girl that weren't yet citizens of the U.S.<span id='postcolor'> You don't have to be a U.S. citizen to serve in the U.S. armed forces. My brother (a German national like myself) joined the U.S. Air Force, for instance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted March 16, 2003 The FFL would probably be your best bet, if you want my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renagade 0 Posted March 17, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">As far as western Armies go you will find near enough all of them support the same system as us, in that you have to be from that country to join it, in the main that is because of security reasons.<span id='postcolor'> not that that`s much better security wise </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">In the UK we operate along them lines, our policy is that you have to have been resident in the Uk for 5 years or more and if you are not a UK national you need a letter from your embassy stating that you do not owe any military service to your own country first, then it is all down to security checks etc as to whether you get in. <span id='postcolor'> ok so aparently we`re property of other countries now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-RoNiN 0 Posted March 17, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Renagade @ Mar. 17 2003,01:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ok so aparently we`re property of other countries now <span id='postcolor'> Most countries still have conscription. What's the problem with that? They don't "own" you, you are merely asked to repay something to your country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renagade 0 Posted March 17, 2003 I owe nothing infact i should get paid for being stuck on this rock.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted March 17, 2003 1. Do you have any military experience, knowledge or special trainings on weapon systems ? 2. If you already have served in the uS army what specs do you have ? 3. Are you willing to completely give up your current citizen status . This could be including limitation of travel and some major cuts in your private life. 4. Have you got a family to be taken along ? The FFS is no option if you look for a decent military career. Don´t get me wrong, I respect them a lot and had some great time with them, but they are at the top of military hardcore and this is not the stuff an army newbie will be able to take. No offence, but reality. In general I´d suggest to check the embassies on preferred countries. They can surely tell you more about your wishes. I don´t think it is necessarry to give up your citizen status for the army job, but it depends on where you want to go. German BW and KRK and KSK units for example only take german citizens in. The problem is you´d need to apply for citizenship first and then apply for BW. This makes you trapped if you don´t stand the test in a good way. You will end up in a unit you never wanted to be. So I would check out the career options via local embassies. If you have miltary knowledge and time served already you can go to several countries to join services that are not strict governmental miitary, but I will not go into detail a his forum. The UN itself only accepts soldiers with a previouse military career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted March 17, 2003 Can I ask why you don't want to join the US armed forces? Or the French Foreign Legion? Not trying to be nosy or personal or anything, but it might help us give you advice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brgnorway 0 Posted March 17, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Mar. 17 2003,02:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Can I ask why you don't want to join the US armed forces? Â Or the French Foreign Legion? Â Not trying to be nosy or personal or anything, but it might help us give you advice.<span id='postcolor'> A sane kid from relatively good home should stay away from the foreign legion. If he doesn't he will likely desert anyway. However, if he is extremely motivated, can take daily beatings (I'm not talking about a slap in the face) , rotten food that causes constant stumock-pain, no leasure-time, and a good chance of getting killed - then I guess he would do just fine. The foreign legion is not a place for people fixed on military romanticism! Edit: no offense to you xmurderx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xmurderx 0 Posted March 17, 2003 to be honest I am bored with life. I want action now. Of course it may sound stupid to you all, but its the way I feel. I have lost alot in my life and I need to open myself up to some real life experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brgnorway 0 Posted March 17, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (xmurderx @ Mar. 17 2003,03:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">to be honest I am bored with life. I want action now. Of course it may sound stupid to you all, but its the way I feel. I have lost alot in my life and I need to open myself up to some real life experience.<span id='postcolor'> I'm not trying to persuade you from engaging in a military career - but why do you have to be a soldier if you wan't action. There are many other options that are more exciting if you want action. You could join an organisation which fight famine etc. in Africa somewhere for example. Unfortunately there is a good chance of being killed in that kind of work too. And believe me, a soldiers life is not fun at all times. It's actually very boring at times - quite often as well. Most soldiers never fight at all! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted March 17, 2003 boredome might be a bad reason. being in military is a commitment and that means you have to sacrifice certain things in your life. as bgnorway said, there are other good options besides joining military, depending on your preference. also, as bgnorway said, most soldiers don't even experience combat. even if they do, if you are a french or norweigian military, you are more likely to surrender at the first sound of a .22 handgun sound coming from your enemy side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brgnorway 0 Posted March 17, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Mar. 17 2003,03:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">also, as bgnorway said, most soldiers don't even experience combat. even if they do, if you are a french or norweigian military, you are more likely to surrender at the first sound of a .22 handgun sound coming from your enemy side. <span id='postcolor'> Hehe....how did you know that Seriously, I can't complain. My own experience was a mix of extreme boredome with almost everthing pertinent to the military - and the good times that had to do with comradeship. When I think back I'm sort of remembering one thing above all - and that is to always be lined up for something - or a queue if you like: queue for personal effects, for weapons, for food, at the toilet, in the cafeteria, for permtripp back home and then you can reverse the order of what I just described. Apart from my career in queueing I worked bloody hard all day (and often at nights) and every day. What I did like though was the comradeship. We had a good time together - and most people did their best to have fun. However, what I just told you about queues are not entirely true. You see I was a staff secretary - and most that have been in the military know that the ones working in the staff - usually get around the queues! Â Oh boy, we were slick! hehe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renagade 0 Posted March 17, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (xmurderx @ Mar. 17 2003,03:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">to be honest I am bored with life. I want action now. Of course it may sound stupid to you all, but its the way I feel. I have lost alot in my life and I need to open myself up to some real life experience.<span id='postcolor'> how about a bounty hunter or a private dick Im sure ppl around here would know more about it than i do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted March 17, 2003 You could be a cop if you're just bored. But I don't recommend it if you're not committed. Most careers recquire you to be committed to what you're doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceFire 0 Posted March 17, 2003 You're an American. Why not join the US Marines? Or the French Foreign Legion if you are desperate enough? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warin 0 Posted March 17, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (xmurderx @ Mar. 17 2003,03:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">to be honest I am bored with life. I want action now. Of course it may sound stupid to you all, but its the way I feel. I have lost alot in my life and I need to open myself up to some real life experience.<span id='postcolor'> Try the Peace Corp... Marching endlessly and blowing shit up might seem like a lot of fun, but I think bringing fresh water to village who has never had it by digging a well, or helping teach people how to break the cycle of starvation through planning and agriculture might just be a lot more meaningful. Plus, you'd still get to see a lot of the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ale2999 0 Posted March 17, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Mar. 17 2003,02:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Can I ask why you don't want to join the US armed forces? Â Or the French Foreign Legion? Â Not trying to be nosy or personal or anything, but it might help us give you advice.<span id='postcolor'> I think he doesnt want to join those armies, cuz he want action, but he doesnt want to get killed, and the Us army an FL have a fight every 5 years more or less lol, so that is too risky.he needs to join like the swiss army joking m8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
