Col. Kurtz 0 Posted March 12, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SKULLS_Viper @ Mar. 12 2003,10:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I wonder what airplane is going to carry it?But that is pretty big, for a non-nuclear bomb.<span id='postcolor'> It would have to be a big bomber like the B-52 or B-1b, or if its a really hot target, a B-2. Those bombers have very big bomb bays. If all else fails, do what they do with the daisy cutter, throw it out the back of a transport plane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted March 12, 2003 I'm more impressed with precision bombs. Ones that punch through the target dead center. Amazing stuff, especially if you've ever tried to do something else while flying a plane. I remember once I simply looked down at my map for what seemed like a few seconds, when I looked up the plane was banked at what seemed like 45+ degrees and descending. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jester983 0 Posted March 12, 2003 ooooooooo0o0o0o0o0! aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh! *drools* Id hate to be the bomb defuser of that one... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SFG 1 Posted March 12, 2003 I hope they dont start using Florida as there testing grounds If i saw one of those things explode as i look out the window i'd probably think were getting raided by terrorists and run like hell Does anyone know what nearby city it was exploded by? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jester983 0 Posted March 12, 2003 Theres a saying among bomb technicians (saw it in a movie see if you can guess it) "Im a bomb technician. If you see me running, try to catch up." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted March 12, 2003 Fox News has a video of it. I'll edit my post if I find a version without their stupid ads preceeding the footage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted March 12, 2003 It seems that MOAB won't hold the title of biggest conventional bomb for long, the US military is working on "Big BLU", a 30,000 pound monster, which would be almost 50% bigger than MOAB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hit_Sqd_Maximus 0 Posted March 12, 2003 Hm...... when I play the video he sais "the pentagon just released its video...", then it goes into another advertisement. Is there any other links to watch it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SFG 1 Posted March 12, 2003 I got the same problem max... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted March 12, 2003 This is all probably just to scare the Iraqis. Especially the ones who remember GW1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Kurtz 0 Posted March 12, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mister Frag @ Mar. 12 2003,12:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It seems that MOAB won't hold the title of biggest conventional bomb for long, the US military is working on "Big BLU", a 30,000 pound monster, which would be almost 50% bigger than MOAB. <span id='postcolor'> What next? Hollow out a B-52 and fill it with explosives then fly it via remote control to the target? (The US experimented with this in WW2 with B-17s). Think of how much explosives you could shove into a B-52... Might not take off though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted March 12, 2003 I found a high-quality version of the video: http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Mar2003/030311-D-9085M-004.mpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 0 Posted March 12, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Col. Kurtz @ Mar. 12 2003,17:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mister Frag @ Mar. 12 2003,12:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It seems that MOAB won't hold the title of biggest conventional bomb for long, the US military is working on "Big BLU", a 30,000 pound monster, which would be almost 50% bigger than MOAB. <span id='postcolor'> What next? Hollow out a B-52 and fill it with explosives then fly it via remote control to the target? (The US experimented with this in WW2 with B-17s). Think of how much explosives you could shove into a B-52... Might not take off though <span id='postcolor'> i think a few sides did that, even sum purpose built planes, i also think brits used to load up sum landcasters and send them on their way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted March 12, 2003 They also tried to use pigeons as a guidance system. They'd have them peck at a target and give them a treat, then somehow tie them into guidance fins on a bomb. So when they pecked on the target it would aim the bomb. I assume they'd get a treat, they are going to die after all. Might as well make them happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted March 12, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Mar. 11 2003,22:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">They also tried to use pigeons as a guidance system. Â They'd have them peck at a target and give them a treat, then somehow tie them into guidance fins on a bomb. Â So when they pecked on the target it would aim the bomb. Â I assume they'd get a treat, they are going to die after all. Â Might as well make them happy.<span id='postcolor'> Just pray those pigeons don't spot a hawk as they approach the target... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted March 12, 2003 Or an old man with bread crumbs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted March 12, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Mar. 11 2003,22:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Or an old man with bread crumbs. <span id='postcolor'> Now THAT would suck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackdog~ 0 Posted March 12, 2003 Here are some pics of the bomb itself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted March 12, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mister Frag @ Mar. 12 2003,06:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I found a high-quality version of the video: Â http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Mar2003/030311-D-9085M-004.mpg<span id='postcolor'> now that's a real entertainment for men! nothing but a boom!(albeit wating 30 seconds while it fals from sky) anybody know how far that video was taken from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted March 12, 2003 For those who have watched the video, you might have noticed that the MOAB didn't stabilize very well, it seemed to tumble quite a bit. Not end-over-end, but you could clearly see that it was having some problems. Of course, I don't know how close it actually came to the desired point of impact, and it would also seem that it doesn't have to hit all that close to the target. There won't be any grass growing there for a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted March 12, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Mar. 11 2003,22:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">anybody know how far that video was taken from? <span id='postcolor'> No, hard to tell. The impact is 43 seconds into the clip, and at the end of the clip at 18, the sound hasn't arrived yet. At sea level (the film is from Eglin AFB in Florida), the speed of sound is about 340 meters / 1110 feet per second, so the distance had to have been at least 8.5 kilometers / 5.25 miles. My guess is that the military required observers to be much farther away than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oligo 1 Posted March 12, 2003 Why not go for space-based kinetic energy bombs? An Ariane 5 booster for example could deliver an aerodynamic shape with small engines made of 6 tons of ceramics up to orbit. You then drop that mass down to Earth with all the speed you can muster (a frigging lot). What you get is a superheated mass slamming down to Earth with a ridiculous speed (at least 20000 kph). We could call it a "Kinetic Harpoon". Edit: 0.5 x 6000 kg x 5500 m/s ^2 = 1 x 10^11 Joules of kinetic energy released alone. Editedit: Compared to 6 x 10^13 Joules for Hiroshima bomb, Kinetic Harpoons would still have 100x smaller yields, but without the nasty radiation and fallout. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted March 12, 2003 One word: cost. I like the way you think, however. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
//relic// 0 Posted March 12, 2003 I'm also more impressed with weapons that utilize modern technologies like JDAM & JSOW than a bomb casing stuffed with aluminium & amm. nitrate. Still looks cool though I still want to see footage of a CBU-97 or FAE in action. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites