Tex -USMC- 0 Posted February 6, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (farmcoot @ Feb. 06 2003,01:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">MTV2 sucks. Most of the time they play shitty music anyway. I was blessed have parents who actually cared about what I watched on TV, they banned all that MTV shit. I think kids today need to learn more outdoors kinds of stuff. I remeber Boy Scouts.......ahh the good days  <span id='postcolor'> yeah, I hear ya. I'm all about the outdoors during the summer time: fishing, camping, destroying shit, all the things American kids have forgotten about. I used to be a Boy Scout, but I decided that I wasn't interested in be getting too many of the more boring merit badges, and being the oldest Tenderfoot in the troop didnt sound too great either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renagade 0 Posted February 6, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (farmcoot @ Feb. 06 2003,01:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">MTV2 sucks. Most of the time they play shitty music anyway. I was blessed have parents who actually cared about what I watched on TV, they banned all that MTV shit. I think kids today need to learn more outdoors kinds of stuff. I remeber Boy Scouts.......ahh the good days  <span id='postcolor'> unfortunately depending on where u live there isn`t anything to do outdoors. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Again, good parenting can prevent most of this<span id='postcolor'> not necessarily so Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted February 6, 2003 The only decent thing to come out of MTV in ages -> The Undergrads Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schoeler 0 Posted February 6, 2003 I don't know about that. I had the advantage/disadvantage? of spending half my childhood living in the city and the other half in the country. Even in the city, there was plenty to do. We used to go down to the city park and play baseball or football until it got too dark to see. In the summer we went swimming at the community center pool. Hell, we even played in the street. Tag, Hide and Go Seek, sledding down a street when it iced over in the winter. Kids are pretty imaginative, make them go outside and they'll come up with something. I rode my bike everywhere when I was a kid. I used to clim up on top of buildings and yell things down at people passing below. All this outdoor activity had one good result, it kept us in shape. There weren't a lot of fat-assed kids in my generation. Our parents didn't let us sit and watch MTV (and this was back when it was all videos all the time with no commercials.) We were allowed to play video games (Atari, Coleco Vision LOL!! about once or twice a week, otherwise it was get your asses outside and play, then come home for dinner and do your homework. MTV is pure shit and it corrupts our culture tremendously, but the fault lies with today's lazy, self-oriented, me first, materialistic, apathetic parents. Parents want to be their kid's buddies today, instead of being the parents they are supposed to be. You should have to get licensed to become a parent these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fraggit 0 Posted February 6, 2003 I too hate MTV. Everyone here watches it and I feel like an outsider when they're talking about all these god damn shows I've never heard of. I always wondered why MTV was always playing things unrelated to music. And MTV2 never really caught my eye with the crap they played. It's really sad to see the younger kids growing up with MTV. 8 year old girls aren't supposed to dress like sluts! </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">MTV is pure shit and it corrupts our culture tremendously, but the fault lies with today's lazy, self-oriented, me first, materialistic, apathetic parents. Â Parents want to be their kid's buddies today, instead of being the parents they are supposed to be. Â You should have to get licensed to become a parent these days.<span id='postcolor'> So true. These new age parents, or whatever the hell they are, have a few screws missing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiNs_Da_Smoka 0 Posted February 6, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Feb. 06 2003,00:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">MTV says that sex is okay (airing a truth about sex program at 3 AM doesnt count)<span id='postcolor'> I would have to disagree with that. But ok, some of the stuff on there vurges on X rated, but thats not the point. Those truth about sex programs have been shown as primetime specials many times over when they first came out. People are so quick to say MTV pushes this image on people, which is true, no doubt about it, but they also realize the power they have. The truth is, MTV's president is over 50, and most of its exec or mid 30's - 40's. If you watched MTV on a semi-regular basis you would see the MANY safe sex ads they run. I mean, they literally have alot of them. They don't just say "where a condom", they do alot to get the point across. As i said, they know they have the power, and most of the brains over there are using it in the right way. Its just, as far as regular programming goes, yea they do push that "image" across a little too much. But they know how to bring good messages across, and they do. Just remember this, i am NOT a bubblegum chewer that falls into the MTV void, i can't stand most of the crap on there, its just i see when they do good, and respect that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted February 6, 2003 well, MTV may talk the talk, but they certainly don't back it up. On an entirely unrelated note, I'm going through some old albums (Credence Clearwater, etc.) and I realize that the music today really sucks which is probably the strongest reason that we need a protracted conflict in Asia: makes for good tunes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister 5 0 Posted February 6, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (PiNs_Da_Smoka @ Feb. 06 2003,02:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"where a condom"<span id='postcolor'> Damned if I know... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renagade 0 Posted February 6, 2003 yes their littered about in easy to find places to stop the rise of teen pregnancy....... wait...... their not Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renagade 0 Posted February 6, 2003 as for the music im sure anyone on a good pc with good software and a bit of talent could make as good or better than most of mtv crap which leads me to another question how come there isnt any electronic-synthesizer music that has the complexity of classical music ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiNs_Da_Smoka 0 Posted February 6, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Renagade @ Feb. 06 2003,04:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">how come there isnt any electronic-synthesizer<span id='postcolor'> uhh.....well, probably because its 2003 and not 1986 And considering the amount of crap that came out of hte 80's, that is a good thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renagade 0 Posted February 6, 2003 plus they were much better dressed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Assault (CAN) 1 Posted February 6, 2003 After seeing all the anti-MTV replies, I don't think that there's a whole lot to be concerned about. Everyone here seems to think about the 'unknown dumb majority' but they fail to realise that they have alot in common with alot of people that don't post here. That's understandable though, we can't read people's minds,...........yet. Yes, there are crass, materialistic, and shallow people out there, but I don't think that they are as numerous as we like to think. Or maybe MTV and things like it really do represent the downfall of western civilisation. Who knows? I will agree with you guys on a number of thing's though. Young kids today do dress like they are going to apear in a GAP commercial, or a rap video, and young girl's clothes are getting more and more revealing. When I was that age, jogging pants were all the rage and there was only a couple of fat people at our school. We I was young, me and my buddies would hike about 4k to go out to the back 40 and play soldiers with our paintballguns and playdough 'C4'. Today, there are video games for that, which is unfortunate. Parents should tell their kids what their 'culture' is all about. Change the myth, and the values will follow. Oh yeah, MTV sucks anyway, Much Music actually plays music, but even that is getting too 'poppy' nowadays. I miss the mid '90's when they played good 'ol Canadian rock. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">On an entirely unrelated note, I'm going through some old albums (Credence Clearwater, etc.) and I realize that the music today really sucks which is probably the strongest reason that we need a protracted conflict in Asia: makes for good tunes <span id='postcolor'> LOL, so true. Why do I always think of doing helo inserts when I hear CCR? BTW, Undergrads is a good show Tovarish, ever see 'Mission Hill'? Tyler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted February 6, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ Feb. 06 2003,05:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">BTW, Undergrads is a good show Tovarish, ever see 'Mission Hill'?<span id='postcolor'> Nah, only seen about 5 episodes. Got hooked on it while drinking at a buddy's house one day. Saw the episode where Gimpy had to win a Quake game and he was training his friends in the use of a joystick "As I was saying, your joystick...is there something funny about your joystick Private Rocco? You must master your joystick as a fisherman masters bait!" After that I downloaded a few episodes. I'll look for that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warin 0 Posted February 6, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ Feb. 06 2003,06:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ Feb. 06 2003,05:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">BTW, Undergrads is a good show Tovarish, ever see 'Mission Hill'?<span id='postcolor'> Nah, only seen about 5 episodes. Got hooked on it while drinking at a buddy's house one day. Saw the episode where Gimpy had to win a Quake game and he was training his friends in the use of a joystick "As I was saying, your joystick...is there something funny about your joystick Private Rocco? You must master your joystick as a fisherman masters bait!" After that I downloaded a few episodes. I'll look for that one.<span id='postcolor'> Mission Hill and Undergrads are both pretty good. You can see them both late night on Teletoon (for you Canadians out there ) They each have their own advantages and humour. Of course, if you want something over the top rude: Quads Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Fubar 0 Posted February 6, 2003 Hmm, for me I never found Quads all that funny. The holy trinity of TV cartoons for me (excepting the Simpsons, which is a given) is The Family Guy, Futurama, and Duckman Anyway, back to MTV, I just got access to it through my cable provider about 2 months ago (it didn't cost any extra). Every time I turn it on there is some BS show on instead of music! The only shows I like on MTV are Jackass, Beavis & Butthead and the Andy dick show. But I find it really annoying that when I just wanna sit back and chill to some music, there is some pubescent idiot yammering at me instead of a filmclip. Even when the music does come on it's usually the same sound alike "R&B" (I remember when R&B used to mean good soulful Rythm and Blues, not some bunch of half naked black or hispanic girls singing about how hot they are or guys telling us what badass gangtas they think they are). Â Thankfully my cable has 2 other, local music channels, which are marginally better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted February 6, 2003 ""99 channels and still nothing to watch." - Eight year old Rusty Duritz, in Disney's movie "The Kid" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Fubar 0 Posted February 6, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">One nation under God has turned into one nation under the influence of one drug Television the drug of the Nation Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation T.V. it satellite links our United States of Unconsciousness Apathetic therapeutic and extremely addictive The methadone metronome pumping out 150 channels 24 hours a day you can flip through all of them and still there's nothing worth watching T.V. is the reason why less than 10 per cent of our Nation reads books daily Why most people think Central Amerika means Kansas Socialism means unamerican and Apartheid is a new headache remedy absorbed in it's world it's so hard to find us It shapes our mind the most maybe the mother of our Nation should remind us that we're sitting too close to... Television, the drug of the Nation Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation T.V. is the stomping ground for political candidates Where bears in the woods are chased by Grecian Formula'd bald eagles T.V. is mechanized politic's remote control over the masses co-sponsored by environmentally safe gases watch for the PBS special It's the perpetuation of the two party system where image takes precedence over wisdom Where sound bite politics are served to the fastfood culture Where straight teeth in your mouth are more important than the words that come out of it Race baiting is the way to get selected Willie Horton or Will he not get elected on... Television, the drug of the Nation Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation T.V., is it the reflector or the director ? Does it imitate us or do we imitate it because a child watches 1500 murders before he's twelve years old and we wonder why we've created a Jason generation that learns to laugh rather than to abhor the horror T.V. is the place where armchair generals and quarterbacks can experience first hand the excitement of warfare as the theme song is sung in the background Sugar sweet sitcoms that leave us with a bad actor taste while pop stars metamorphosize into soda pop stars You saw the video You heard the soundtrack Well now go buy the soft drink Well, the onla cola that I support would be a union C.O.L.A.(Cost Of Living Allowance) On television Television, the drug of the Nation Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation Back again, "New and improved" We return to our irregularly programmed schedule hidden cleverly between heavy breasted beer and car commercials CNN ESPN ABC TNT but mostly B.S. Where oxymoronic language like "virtually spotless", "fresh frozen" "light yet filling" and "military intelligence" have become standard T.V. is the place where phrases are redefined like "recession" to "necessary downturn" "Crude oil" on a beach to "mousse" "Civilian death" to "collateral damages" and being killed by your own Army is now called "friendly fire" T.V. is the place where the pursuit of happiness has become the pursuit of trivia Where toothpaste and cars have become sex objects Where imagination is sucked out of children by a cathode ray nipple T.V. is the only wet nurse that would create a cripple Television, the drug of the Nation Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation<span id='postcolor'> Disposable Heroes Of Hiphoprisy - Television The Drug Of The Nation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted February 6, 2003 In our house, we don't subscribe to anything. That leaves us with Israeli's government channel 1 and public channel 2. Extremely boring and demented content 95% of the time. Keeps the kids busy with other things, though I have to put some limits on the amount of time my oldest boy plays OFP. I tell him to look at his father as an example. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted February 6, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I tell him to look at his father as an example.<span id='postcolor'> Why ? He looks quite high - tech to me : Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted February 6, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Balschoiw @ Feb. 06 2003,12:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I tell him to look at his father as an example.<span id='postcolor'> Why ? He looks quite high - tech to me : <span id='postcolor'> Hey! I remember going out with someone like that way back when! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLight 0 Posted February 6, 2003 I like MTV, i like it a lot, there's different kinds of shows and lots of nice music. Dunno what's so bad about this program, everyone just watches it to see those idiots acting like... well... idiots It's just entertainment, calm down, ppl who take these shows for serious probable think that the young people these days are dumb enough to do anything they see on TV. Sheesh... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLight 0 Posted February 6, 2003 Oh BTW, Americans watch a different kind of MTV, dunno if this show is also played on the European MTV... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-TU--33ker 0 Posted February 6, 2003 we have lots of shows produced in USA over here on german MTV. the best so far are Jackass (i always wonder how dumb people can be but it's still fun to watch how they beat the shit out of themselves ), The Osbournes (please shoot ozzy's dumb kids, they ruin the whole show!, and yes Celebrity Deathmatch was also quite funny... untill they made a german voice-over for it. we also have MTY2 over here but it's even worse than MTV because it's only about techno and pop. that's why i prefer the german rival channel Viva. although it also shows mainly corny pop music, it sometimes has some highlights like a Manowar live show. Viva+, another channel, sometimes shows Foo Fighters or Queens Of The Stone Age live gigs. and the show metal video clips in the evenings regulary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
