red oct 2 Posted January 9, 2003 im glad that money is being invested in saftey agianst terrorism, but THIS really isn't what i had in mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted January 9, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Red Oct @ Jan. 09 2003,10:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">im glad that money is being invested in saftey agianst terrorism, but THIS Â really isn't what i had in mind.<span id='postcolor'> 6x6! Woohoo! /avon will tell hubby to trade in the land cruiser If you read carefully, it says "The SmarTruck II on the show floor was clearly armed for military duty". I doubt it will ever see such use. However, the concept of an ATV with a modular unit capability that can be used by various agencies isn't so bad or far fetched, IMO. Right now it's only a concept but something more refined might be heading down your street in years to come. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted January 9, 2003 glad to see that it's not in LA autoshow which i'm going soon.... it is a good idea to have some consistency that can be utilized by different agencies. and from looks of it, i say actual version would look a bit better than one in autoshow. however, i doubt if the auto will be used as regularly as hummer is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
red oct 2 Posted January 9, 2003 what i don't like about this is that they are blowing on crap. $600,000.00 bucks was waisted on building this shit box when i think could have been spent on acually fighting terrorsism Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted January 9, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Red Oct @ Jan. 09 2003,10:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what i don't like about this is that they are blowing on crap. $600,000.00 bucks was waisted on building this box when i think could have been spent on acually fighting terrorsism<span id='postcolor'> That's not so much. Easily compensated by the US army giving up a thousand toilet seats. Where's your can-do attitude? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted January 9, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Red Oct @ Jan. 09 2003,09:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what i don't like about this is that they are blowing on crap. $600,000.00 bucks was waisted on building this shit box when i think could have been spent on acually fighting terrorsism<span id='postcolor'> good point. 600k would be used to conduct more efficient tasks at hand. i'm wondering what the use of the vehicle will bring in as benefit in the future. at this point, i see no cost benefit advantage too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Necromancer- 0 Posted January 9, 2003 The designers really have watched too much "James Bond". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supah 0 Posted January 9, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Jan. 09 2003,09:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Red Oct @ Jan. 09 2003,09:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what i don't like about this is that they are blowing on crap. $600,000.00 bucks was waisted on building this shit box when i think could have been spent on acually fighting terrorsism<span id='postcolor'> good point. 600k would be used to conduct more efficient tasks at hand. i'm wondering what the use of the vehicle will bring in as benefit in the future. at this point, i see no cost benefit advantage too.<span id='postcolor'> Well this is research of a kind though it is quite odd But it is never a waste to spend money on research. Just look at how much money was "wasted" on the space program .... Where would we be without satelites and the likes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LowLevelFunctionary 0 Posted January 9, 2003 woah!!! A missle launcher! I want one of these babies in my parking lot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted January 9, 2003 The stupidity. Counter-terrorism vehicle, man, this completes the illusion of terrorism being an entity you can fight with weapons. EDIT: You know what that thing is good for? Digging rubble from another WTC... that's about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
red oct 2 Posted January 10, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Jan. 09 2003,16:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The stupidity. Â Counter-terrorism vehicle, man, this completes the illusion of terrorism being an entity you can fight with weapons. Â EDIT: You know what that thing is good for? Â Digging rubble from another WTC... that's about it. Â <span id='postcolor'> thats exactly my point, this thing won't stop another plane from slamming into some building. why couldn't they give the money to the NSA to use for training, and employing additional translators to translate messages sent between terrorist cells. they could have given that money for the FBI to use to update their systems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cybrid 0 Posted January 10, 2003 Worst of all, why would they build that on a GM truck chassies? They're currently the worst trucks you can buy in north america, quality wise. And before I get flammed out of the place, no that is not just some bias, research it yourself if you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drewb99 0 Posted January 10, 2003 Makes patrolling the Mexican border for illegal aliens crossing a whole lot easier though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paratrooper 0 Posted January 10, 2003 If it was part of a TV crime fighting action series I wouldn't beileve it! It is stupid. The whole "Terrorism" thing is used to justify any waste of money and any government idea. Tony Blair was even talking about terrorism with refrence to Iraq the other day, now the Iraq affair has its own issues but I don't think terrorism enters into it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drewb99 0 Posted January 10, 2003 As a general Public utility vehicle, I think it's a great idea- Have 1 big ol' vehicle that's able to easily change configurations from agency to agency, you could put ladders and fire hoses on the rear for a fire department, and easily strip it down and put gun lockers and armor for an urban SWAT team. As an anti-terrorism vehicle, though, it's not a very good idea, Terrorism is fought through politics, not driving around in a pimped-out Silverado with a TOW on top. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted January 10, 2003 I think it looks pretty cool I wish I had that CS gas cannon on my car Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted January 10, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (drewb99 @ Jan. 10 2003,03:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">As an anti-terrorism vehicle, though, it's not a very good idea, Terrorism is fought through politics, not driving around in a pimped-out Silverado with a TOW on top.<span id='postcolor'> You gotta admit, you can't go wrong with a car that is so pimped out that it has an anti-tank missile launcher mounted on it- Hell, I settle for a V8 5 liter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACES_KEVIN 0 Posted January 10, 2003 Damn its quite cool and nice and all.... But you could say its quite a bit uneccesary. Kevin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted January 10, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Red Oct @ Jan. 10 2003,01:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Jan. 09 2003,16:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The stupidity. Â Counter-terrorism vehicle, man, this completes the illusion of terrorism being an entity you can fight with weapons. Â EDIT: You know what that thing is good for? Â Digging rubble from another WTC... that's about it. Â <span id='postcolor'> thats exactly my point, this thing won't stop another plane from slamming into some building. why couldn't they give the money to the NSA to use for training, and employing additional translators to translate messages sent between terrorist cells. they could have given that money for the FBI to use to update their systems. <span id='postcolor'> Oh god, you guys really are taking that counter-terrorism label seriously? It's a damn truck, for crying out loud. They add the terrorism part because that's what people respond to, and it gives Chevy a good "Helping the nation while in crisis" image. You guys should know that this is how America works by now. Here's some images that might make a bit more sense to you: Do you honestly think that anyone believed that Lucky Strike cigarettes were a vital part of the war effort? No, it is just propaganda. Not to be taken seriously by people with an average or above brain cell count. Same concept here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paratrooper 0 Posted January 10, 2003 The point is that the threat of 'terrorism' is either being cynically used to make money or justify the random spending of defence budgets. For what that costs you could get some useful equipment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiNs_Da_Smoka 0 Posted January 10, 2003 What most don't realize, is just how quickly $600,000 gets spent by the US government. Yea.....thats all i have to say..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Snrub 0 Posted January 10, 2003 If only it could change into a 15 metre high robot, and we'd have a Transformer seems only a matter of time before we see Optimus Prime in service with the US Army From what i've heard, it's not designed primarily as an offensive 'counter-terrorist' truck, one which will chase terrorists down streets etc. (which it could do, however) but as an electronic surveillance/intercept vehicle. But it definitely has, as Tex said, propaganda value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LowLevelFunctionary 0 Posted January 10, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Jan. 10 2003,04:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Red Oct @ Jan. 10 2003,01:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Jan. 09 2003,16:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The stupidity. Â Counter-terrorism vehicle, man, this completes the illusion of terrorism being an entity you can fight with weapons. Â EDIT: You know what that thing is good for? Â Digging rubble from another WTC... that's about it. Â <span id='postcolor'> thats exactly my point, this thing won't stop another plane from slamming into some building. why couldn't they give the money to the NSA to use for training, and employing additional translators to translate messages sent between terrorist cells. they could have given that money for the FBI to use to update their systems. <span id='postcolor'> Oh god, you guys really are taking that counter-terrorism label seriously? It's a damn truck, for crying out loud. They add the terrorism part because that's what people respond to, and it gives Chevy a good "Helping the nation while in crisis" image. You guys should know that this is how America works by now. Here's some images that might make a bit more sense to you: Do you honestly think that anyone believed that Lucky Strike cigarettes were a vital part of the war effort? No, it is just propaganda. Not to be taken seriously by people with an average or above brain cell count. Same concept here.<span id='postcolor'> But tex, Its got a missile launcher on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You got to love stuff with missile launchers on them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Denwad 0 Posted January 11, 2003 Yes, 600,000 is almost chump change. The US Army game has a very large budget, I think somewhere around 7 million dollars will be spent operating the servers over a five year period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
